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I'm definitely a skeptic of the Bible, but there is an interesting phenomenon regarding the first 5 books (The Pentateuch: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Number, Deuteronomy) called the Bible Code that fascinates me. I have a hard time finding a way to put that into an Agnostic place, but suspect it's a result of Hebrew not having vowels, and being a very "mathematic" language. Does anyone have any insight to this?

Dallasdave 5 June 24
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The claim that the Bible has any such codes has been well debunked, including by the Orthodox Jewish Caltech math prof Barry Simon, though the statistical issues involved are somewhat subtle: [sites.math.washington.edu]

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Any text sufficiently long enough can be manipulated by an algorithm to produce whatever conspiracy theory you would like it to support. Math can be made to be bias by s/he who applies it.

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An interesting paper on the subject of Equidistant Letter Sequences presented at Researchgate.net

[researchgate.net]

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If you find that aspect interesting look into Gematria. Some interesting correlations can be found.

Bear in mind the system can be related to any text, not just biblical.

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If you take a piece of text and cut it up into fixed length sections, you can then stack those sections up in a pile (without changing their order) and look for vertical words which might have been secretly coded into the texts. However, if you can manipulate the lengths of the lines a little, you can manufacture vertical words, so you do that by adding spaces on an arbitrary basis on the pretext that they are "breathings". This then allows you to make a lot of money out of religious victims who are only too willing to be conned out of their hard-earned cash.

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Would be plausible if, let's say the first book, Genesis wouldn't be filled with such illogical and stupid crap that doesn't even resist a minimum of sense, and continues going downhill from there.

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I've no idea what the bible code is but I have read the first five books of the new English translation in some detail, the King James version is too hard going., Some great stories but mostly pure mythology of course. I think maybe some people have been reading too many of Dan Brown;s novels.

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I tried to run the Bible code and it would not compile.

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The bible was written by men with an agenda and as such is not to be trusted

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there is no one "the" bible, capital b or otherwise. there are a gazillion translations. hebrew has vowels; they're very small. every language, including the language of music, is mathematical in its way. why would a language without vowels, if that were true, be hard to put into an agnostic place? are religious sites more receptive to vowelless languages? i don't have any insight into why you would say that. i also have no especial interest in made-up codes and made-up specialness. all the bibles are just books written by people who 1. didn't know a lot about science or nature, 2. didn't know a lot about writing.

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I read about the Bible Code, and applied it to various non-religious texts, including a legal disclaimer having nothing to do with religion, and Edgar Allen Poe's poem about the Raven. I found that it works just as much outside the Bible as it does within the Bible. It's a scam.

Evidence of confirmation bias, nice catch!

Yes I have seen demonstrations of the 'bible code ' methods aplied to others books, and it does seem that you can use the method on any text you like and get results.

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Bible codes are made up bullshit just like the movies about the subject. Imagine bible books in several different languages and translations. How would you apply any such "bible code" to find out anything? It would be like using an auto repair manual to build a bird cage.

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There is no bible code. You can do the same thing with any text. It's just confirmation bias run amok.

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