I'm not sure that Mary played any men to make any of this happen. Men were in control and this is some god setup that they wanted. If you read other writings Jesus was not the first "virgin birth." This was a "purity" concept that seemed to fit ancient religions.

The entire basis of 'Christianity' is the Virgin Birth, as expounded by the innumerable Sects, of the entirely Mythological Jesus of Nazareth and his 33 years of life ( again never proven empirically to have happened), his death by Crucifixion ( again never proven empirically to have occurred) and his subsequent resurrection ( also never proven empirically to have occurred). Since Christians, for the majority that is, have somewhat discarded the Old Testament in favor of the New testament because, simply, it far better suits their purposes.

What is a Mithraist Christian?

@Geoffrey51 a "believer" who thinks that they might go up to heaven (Elysian Fields) after Jesus (Apollo, Hermes) "returns" (can't be quoted anywhere) and takes them? No one has ever gone up to heaven, there is only one immortal etc

@bbyrd009 Nonsense. There is no correlation between Mithras and Jesus other than the rituals that Christianity absorbed

@Geoffrey51 Google "Mithraism and Christianity" for more if you like, obv virtually everyone claiming "Christian" believes they are going up to heaven after they have died, to become immortals too, in direct contradiction to the Bible they claim to love so much and read so literally. They are Jesus Cults who have really quite obviously put Jesus in the place of Apollo/Hermes. Again, have a good one k.

@Geoffrey51 Google is sick with it, but here's one [cogwriter.com] prolly by some "righteous" religious person still tho i guess, "cog" ya he's a cog alright lol

@bbyrd009 Now I concur with you. I agree that Christianity took elements which also appear in Mithraism. It seems I missed misunderstood your point. I thought you were saying that Mithras and Jesus were the same rather than Christians taking on attributes of Mithraism.

Christianity is the great syncretic religion. It borrows from everywhere to appeal to the locals!

Ha that would never have been taken literally then, we have just forgotten what "donkey" represents, represented then, i guess

It makes you wonder how many girls since then have told that line to their father. Honest dad i'm really still a virgin. God immaculately concepted me and I've really never been with a man.