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Been a while since I made a post here. I was dating this girl recently very religious. But wow she was amazing. She tried her hardest to convert me. Very hard to do when someone lives on facts but man she was amazing every other way.

DavidGreen1 6 Sep 11
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I had a girlfriend, long ago, who commented one day that she was "...going to make a real Jew out of me." BARF!

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Yeah, I had a sweetie like that too. I do miss her. Sorry you had to let that piece of your heart go. None of us can ever escape who we are. Good luck, brother.

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Why would anyone waste their time with someone who wants to change them? I never want sex that bad!

When you get older you will realize that sex isn't the sole & primary motivating factor for building a meaningful relationship.

@gNappyHead I'm older...hell, I'm almost dead, yet I won't compromise my beliefs, nor WILLINGLY tolerate someone who tried to change me. I'd rather be alone.

Before the myths started in it was about the bond we made our lives are very similar. I fell for her then God came lol

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It's very sad. At least she was amazing every other way. Too bad she couldn't accept you for yourself.

For real oh well maybe next time

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IMHO ...the "make or break" religious issue in relationships (whether platonic or romantic) is damnation!

Relationships are hard, period. All of them: friends, family, dating, marriage. Add two very different views about religion, and it becomes much more complex, especially if either or both hold very strong views.

But I think similar VALUES outweigh "religion." If the two people share views about basic right/wrong, money, sex, parenting, etc., then religious differences can usually be negotiated.

However, I don't see any way to compromise if one person thinks the other is damned to hell. This is mainly an issue in Islam and certain sects of Christianity (not all, but many of them).

A lot of Christians have a "secret door" in mind, where "good people" of any religion (or no religion) can be "saved" (or, at least, not damned). These are the folks who say, "God looks into your heart."

But many Christians — especially Evangelical and Fundamentalist Christians like Assembly of God, Baptists and Pentecostals — are VERY clear: You can be the nicest, best person in the world, but you STILL go to hell if you die without accepting Jesus.

I can't fathom how a relationship like this can work, because even if there is an agreement to not discuss the topic, one of them is constantly, secretly worried the other will die "unsaved."

And if they REALLY believe that you are going to hell, just for not believing, then it had better bother them a lot. IF THEY ARE OKAY WITH IT (they still think God is Good, All The Time!) ... then they're a sociopath who doesn't really love you.

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How about... "Don't try to convert me into believing and I won't tell you what an idiot you are!"

j/k

My ex wife grew up Catholic and that part was never a problem between us. Her father was a staunch Catholic and even he liked me well enough to not say much about it. We even had some very philosophical talks about it, usually while enjoying bourbon.

Yeah. Contrary to what a lot of people think, Catholics are much better about this issue than many Protestants are.

With Vatican II, in the 1960s, the Catholics actually took an agnostic position about people of other & no religions being "saved"... basically, they said (in so many words), "God can save whoever he wants. We are still the True Church, but God is bigger than just us."

That took off the pressure to convert others.

In contrast, Fundamentalist and Evangelical Christians are all about getting people "saved." That is their whole point.

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I'm sorry.

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If she tries really hard to convert (change) you then what’s next. The way you dress or what you eat? She sounds controlling. She’s bad news hidden behind a pretty face. She’s not a “live and let live” person.

Funny thing is i would take her back if things were different guess I am just a sucker for a woman

@DavidGreen1 She will make your life miserable.

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did you ultimately breakup because you were tired of it? Or did she breakup with you when she realized she wouldn't be able to convert you?

No she accused me of lieing to here. I do not ever lie even white and the thing she accused me of lieing about was a pretty serious thing

@DavidGreen1 I suppose it could not be communicated about and worked through? It happens... best of luck in your next relationship 🙂

@DavidGreen1 That's the problem though. Not content to lie to themselves, they lie for Jesus and then compete for lying. Delusion is delusional; it's insanity. Back away and dedicate yourself to sanity.

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humanist, atheist, agnostic ... bah ... we're all seekers of truth. I believe science and physics are the keys and that there are actual, physical rules of the universe establishing a consciousness. Not gods or any mystical claptrap. Just rules we haven't uncovered yet.

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Please understand that it is her "job" to convert you. Even in Paul's writings it is claimed that a believer might bring a non-believer to Christ. Most sensible believers are OK, but there comes a time with Evangelicals that they will even cry because an invisible unknown and un-located part of you might burn forever in an unknown place after you die. It only makes sense to a Christian or an ex-Christian.

Some unions do work. I knew of a Jewish man who married a Baptist woman and they had 3 kids. This was managed by avoiding religious discussion.

Yep. It really depends on the religion and the denomination (I commented above).

Jews don't believe non-Jews go to hell (they don't even have a hell). Most religions don't. Some Christians tell themselves that God "judges people by what is in their hearts, not what's in their heads."

But Evangelicals and Fundamentalists are VERY CLEAR about the need to convert (save) others. Theologically, they have no way around it ... if you die unsaved, you go to hell, period. Even if you are a decent person.

If you think about it, someone who believes this OUGHT to be obsessed with converting others. (Imagine if you KNEW that the car your loved one was climbing into had a bomb in it that would explode. You couldn't just shrug and say, "We won't discuss it."

Christians who really BELIEVE this, and ARE OKAY with it, creep me out. It's sociopathic.

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A really sweet hot eh? I was challenged by that in the day. But even when I liked them , I never dated religous people.

I am a sucker for a pretty woman and actually the reason I saw her in the first place was because every other thing about her and me are very similar

@DavidGreen1 yes I get it.

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The term god-fearing mentioned in other posts is an absurdity. Should not these people love their god? Fearing bespeaks of a relationship of punishment. Is their fantasy being putting them in a strappado? I guess their Jesus disappears before the Old Testament deity. I still prefer the Norse gods. The whole thing is absurd, vile, and loathsome. I could never be in a relationship with religious people.

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Sex is an entry drug for religious zelots.

And she ha me for a while lol

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I wish I tried I am one of those people that believe everyone should be able to decide what is right for them but in the end I was not the God fearing man she was looking for. If you ask me I am glad I was not God fearing people believe in violence and oh yeah let's not talk about their idol sitting on his thrown in DC

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The minute someone tries to convert me, I'm out.

You would think I was smarter. Guess I was thinking somewhere else

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No possible compromise?

lerlo Level 8 Sep 11, 2019

I tried but in the end it came down to me not being the God fearing man she wanted. But in the end I was the only one making compromises.

@DavidGreen1 Yep it has to go both ways--she didnt mention it upfront or she didnt know your beliefs upfront?

@lerlo she did mention it after a while but I thought we could work around she was the first woman I actually wanted to tell my secrets to because hers were the same ( recovering addict/ alcoholic)

@DavidGreen1 sorry it didn't work out

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