This is a link to my local middle school. It shows that they are promoting religion. It is on there facebook page.
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Where could I send this to get something done about it?
Or can someone here send up a red flag?
Contact the Freedom From Religion Foundation. ffrf.org
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I find anti-religion zealots as annoying as religious zealots.
If you don't like what you see or hear look/walk away.
If you are placed in a position where you are forced/restrained it has moved into a criminal offense (kidnapping, false imprisonment, assault) and should be turned over to the police or states attorney for prosecution.
If you are not personally/physically harmed...... AND you press the issue, you are now the aggressor.
@Donotbelieve do you feel it is a "duty" to oppose religion?
I see a number of people saying to contact the ACLU. You can try that if you want to, but don't be surprised if they either completely ignore you, or simply tell you there is nothing wrong here.
The event was a legal annual event, with voluntary participation. I don't see where the school promoted it, only posted a few pictures after the fact with a description so brief as to be almost meaningless.
I don't think al's problem is that the students had a prayer circle, I think his issue is it's promotion on the official school facebook page. The promotion is the issue.
I don't see anything illegal. The most you could make of it is that the official school facebook page "promoted" it, but it hardly seems a promotion. It looks like pictures after the fact with a pretty terse and boring description.
Even a boring mention of Fanta would've been seen as promoting Fanta. The fact that it was mentioned at all is at issue.
@CommonHuman Maybe you are right. I would still put this under the "pick your battles" category. And I'm still not sure there is anything illegal in those pictures alone. There could technically be pictures of the "bible club", or the "video game club", or the "nerd club" on the official school website as well, and as long as it is not compulsory, yet still part of the school community...well, that's what it means to live in a free society. It's not technically a "club", but it is done outside of school time. So it may be iffy (the pictures on the official facebook page, NOT the actual praying around the pole), but so innocuous as to make us look like a-holes if we complain about THIS tiny mistake when there are much, much worse illegalities going on out there in terms of church/state separation in schools. (And saying "Fanta is a drink. It has different colors. It has sugar in it. It was offered at lunch once," is the lamest "promotion" ever.)
Contact them [thesatanictemple.com]
But in all honesty who cares it’s not mandatory, there is no one there, and it’s just an after school assembly. This has nothing to do with church and state. The Boy Scouts use schools all the time.
You do nothing about it. Schools can't mandate prayer or religion but students & organizers are free to peacefully assemble.
Contact your state chapter of the Freedom from Religion Foundation, Then the ACLU.
What's odd is it might be legal. Religious groups are permitted to have after school programs.
You could have a group of kids studying the bible after school and it would be legal.
As would a group promoting Wicca.
Unless the school board had laws against it.
And laws for and against religious assembly in school - during and after - probably still vary by State. And whether the school is public or private.
However without knowing when this occurred during the school day and if it was just a group of students who WANTED to participate - it gets into an area that's suspect fast.
FFRF should be able to help. [ffrf.org]
I remember when we had prayer in the classroom if a student wanted to lead it. No one was forced to participate. (Man that was uncomfortable).
I'd really like to see clear separation happen in my lifetime. Good luck!
See you at the pole is an annual, well known event at many schools, and as long as it isn't mandatory to participate, the courts won't stop it. From the looks of the photos, more kids didn't participate than did.
What precisely does it celebrate? Do you happen to know?
I've never heard of this.
As the courts shouldn't stop it, honestly. It's a non-mandatory peaceful assembly.
I've never heard of this event... Closest I've heard someone say "see you at the pole" is meeting up at a strip club...
I guess I am wondering why it has to take pl a e on school grounds if it's a religious observence? Hmm.
File a complaint with the ACLU.
You can also contact the Freedom From Religion Foundation.
They are on Facebook, and this is their website, [ffrf.org]
I am connected with Andrew L. Seidel on Facebook, as well.
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I sent a message to the ACLU.
But I don't live in the district.
I'll send it to the FFRF.
First call the principal and inform him of the separation of church and state, if it is a public school they cannot promote religion, if they do not retract, contact the ACLU.
It has already happened.
It says it's an annual event.
and then call mike pence and tell him the same thing..tricky thing that church/state thing
@Al-Bundy_59 have you contacted the ACLU?