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I deleted my level 7 profile and started again because data had been copied to a test website and profile information is available to the public. I’ve just googled again and my new posts on here are also publicly visibly on a site called humanist. This is appalling security.

GMDSK 3 Dec 29
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all the sites have sister sites AFF has about 5

Hi WW. What's AFF? All the best, DM

@DeaconMartin adult friend finder or cheating wives or passion its got several names its a sex site lol

Thanks WW. Does it actually work? Are there real people involved?

@DeaconMartin yea ive been there long time and I meet lots of real men and women and talk to new ones everyday.... a few are still friends you have to decide what you want and what is safe for you and be careful of course ....and its way harder for men women r often teases or fake
but yea It works better for some than others

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It is a sister site. You can go into your settings and keep your info off of that site. It is the very last setting on the page.

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It's my understanding that Humanist.com is an alias for Agnostic.com.

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I wouldn't concern yourself over the 'sacrifice' of your level 7. I never felt like the need of a gold star even when I was in grade 1. I think it is a bit of a wank actually. But most people are single here so perhaps they have nothing better to do than post. Actually that sounds like me cos I'm not working atm and it's freaking hot outside.

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It's clearly stated it's a dual website. I personally like the humanist approach and wish they had pushed that one harder in the first place. I hate it when people try to act like it's some sort of a scam we're being victimized by.

MsAl Level 8 Dec 30, 2019
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A tad paranoid, aincha? Humanist is a "sister site" to this one, clearly stated in several places. You can opt out of either if you orefer.
You can also remove the tinfoil from your head.

I've heard a lot of crazy. People are convinced that if you walk by a verizon or cell phone provider sore with a cellphone, suddenly the government is sending you advertisements and monitoring you. I have tried to explain to people about cookies and how most data collection and tracking is used to sell you more products. Nobody gives a damn about your personal info. On the other hand if I am kidnapped or broken down, please for the life of me, trace my cellphone location.

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they are the same site, and you have a choice which one(s) to appear on... in settings. you do not have to delete anything and you've not been hacked or hijacked. you have wasted your high-level account though lol. anyway, this is normal. check the ABOUT on both sites to see more.

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Holy cannoli. I've never seen so many folks jump on one person before. Breathe...in from the nose, out through the mouth.

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Sister site easy to opt out

bobwjr Level 10 Dec 30, 2019
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Not again.....how many times do we need to go over this????

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Thanks for the heads up.

I went to My Account/Alerts. Near the bottom, I turned off "Show my profile on Humanist.com."

wow there are a lot of settings i didn't know about... thanks!

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it’s pretty clearly said that this is happening, there’s a place to opt out in the settings. if you’re so worried about privacy, don’t put your legal name or pictures on the site.

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You should've checked with admin first before you deleted. I found out very soon afterwards that the sites were mirror images of each other. I saw no reason to delete because I am a humanist first but also an Atheist and was content with the interaction from either audience.

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On both humanist.com and agnostic.com, in the "About" section, at the bottom, there is a "Two Websites in One" section at the end where they clearly state that they are both sister sites sharing the same database. Nothing to worry about to my humble opinion.

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It appears that this user quit, and since we can't tell when that happened, we don't know whether s/he ever figured out that the two sites are mirrored, that this is not exactly a secret, and that nobody is stealing his/her profile. Oh well.

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It's the poor quality of their tin foil hat material...buy brand name, ferpetessake!

@AnneWimsey Or use asbestos and get it over with.

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Did you try turning off the account preferences to posting to humanist.com? Thanks to your post, I just turned mine off. Go to My Account/Alerts/Settings.

Thanks.

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It's been one of the relatively few transparent things about how this site is run, that by default everything is mirrored between humanist.com and agnostic.com. I have mixed feelings about it but don't see any particularly bad side effects. It's just alternate branding of the same content.

When humanist.com first went up it was an option to opt out of that cross-pollination. I wasn't aware that it is no longer offered to "new" members. I think it involved signing up on agnostic.com then going to humanist.com and opting out in your profile there, or something kind of clunky like that. You might go over to the Senate and ask, but I wouldn't throw away level 7 over something like that unless you got zero value from the site.

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Elon has a ship named Just follow the instructions.
Reading them helps.

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I don't even talk to 3s! Just kidding, it's a mirror site, you should have checked, sorry dude not a security breach at all.

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You have the option of choosing not to allow your profile or posts from Agnostic to be shown on Humanist. If you are using the mobile app you may follow these instructions (if you wish to change it). I'm not sure how it works on the website but it should be similar.

  1. Go to the top left where the three bars are (the menu) and click on it.
  2. Click on the settings option in the list.
  3. Click on the settings tab on the page that comes up.
  4. Scroll all the way to the bottom of the the page and you'll see the option.
    I have added screenshots to show you what to click on.
Source:

Agnostic app

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A lot of this is because your information is public. More so now than it ever has been. As for humanist.com I believe it is related to this site. If you look at it you might find the same members.

A test website? I'm sure there are all kinds of websites. I have this same user name in Facebook and I do it for a reason. I'm a political activist and both parties believe I am friendly to them and support them. Let them believe what they will. When you post it on the Internet you no longer own it and do not have control of it.

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You can disable your profile from appearing on humanist.com in settings. Can't find it let me know, I'll hunt it up.

1of5 Level 8 Dec 30, 2019
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Holy crap that's me!!!👀😳

@poppyrazzi 😅

If you Google poppy razzi eventually after several other photographers and a line of nail polish by Essie you'll find my team profile picture and bio so I guess I'm getting somewhat famous 😂

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Hi - I may be misreading, but it appears to me that the original poster named at least two issues, not one.

  1. Most respondents seem to be focusing (and some not very kindly) on the fact that the OP didn't know that the site was mirrored.

  2. There does not seem to be much (if any) response to what seems to me the broader and more important issue raised, which is that one's more private information can (according to the OP) simply be discovered from conventional web searches. Is this second point true? If it is true (and I don't know that it is), does nobody here have any criticism to make of a site which is partly a dating site choosing to make information so widely and readily available? Or perhaps we can throw in that for some people coming out as an atheist or agnostic has potentially difficult consequences? Or that it makes this site less usable for people from some countries where atheism or agnosticism are not allowed? Or, at the very least, it makes it less advisable for a few folks to be honest about one's location?

kmaz Level 7 Dec 31, 2019

If you are on the internet, your stuff is out there & you have absolutely no control over any of it. Is this news to anyone?

@AnneWimsey

My understanding of dating sites is that it's generally considered to be a good practice that your personal information, what you are looking for, etc., is somewhat guarded, even if under a pseudonym.

Even if one is here just for community, some community-oriented websites deal with topics that are inherently more sensitive than others and I don't think it's unheard of for some level of privacy to be offered for the conversations. Furthermore, when it comes to coming out as an atheist or agnostic, this can be a very sensitive thing for some people, and in some extreme cases, a life and death matter. If the website administrators have decided just to leave things wide open, that seems like a questionable decision in my view.

As to the small print about the mirror site, some of us don't read much small print. The fact that several people have chimed in to say they also were not aware of this is I think sufficient evidence that it's not the most well-known thing on the site. I don't personally care about it that much, but I don't like seeing the somewhat needlessly negative response to the original poster, nor the bandwagon approach to the discussion. The real value of this thread to me is to remind me that secular folks can be just as "go-with-the-flow" as theists.... a valuable lesson, IMO.

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Hello from Humanist. I used to have a profile on Agnostic.

I like teal better then purple, but I suppose there is an easier way to change the banner color. 😀

You can actually change the color of this site...scroll down & see the choices!

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That’s what I call an OTT knee jerk reaction! You obviously didn’t read all the details when you joined up here carefully enough...too bad you hadn’t asked a few questions prior to deleting everything and we could have set you straight that you just had to change the setting to stop sharing your posts with our sister site Humanist.com. I’m sure nothing bad is going to happen so just relax.

Now it's my turn. I did not know this was shared with the Humanists (I did know the site supports FFRF and the Humanists). I am going to quit the Humanists (philosophical differences) and join the Center for Inquiry (more open to the real world). Where is the settings point to stop sharing the posts?

@JackPedigo Go into Settings and scroll right down to the bottom and you will see the question of whether you want your posts to be shared with Humanist.com or not and respond accordingly.

@Marionville Duh, so easy and I totally missed this. Thanks.

@JackPedigo no probs!

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