Simply sick.

Yes, the evangelistic’s are just repeating what the church did to all the indigenous tribes of Panama and the rest of the Americas!

It is so easy to steal from and corrupt those who have never travel more than one hundred miles away from their birthplace, have no running water, electricity, useful education, proper medical or a healthy environment to live!!!

It is shameful how the evangelicalism has corrupted their cultures , just as the evangelicalism has rob our culture and society here!!!

How do I know I live nine years in Panama, I help one Ngabe Bugle tribe families helping and paying for their children to go to school and to learn English. They helped and worked with me. Not in any form of religion servitude or indentured in any way. They lived near Panama City.

[newsroompanama.com]

It can happen without the proselytizing nutters.

Bad journalism. The article does not even say if they were able to get the demon out of the poor woman.

This is the worst kind of sick. If the article is correct it only took three months after the sect began for them to start killing people for god. There are many vicitms here invluding the people that started it all. Religion is much like a viris that infects it's victims, they in turn infect thosw around them.

Last year I received a bit of criticism for releaseing a video that showed sympathy for all the victims.

Note how they use their scapegoat "Satan", every time they fuck something up . . . . "Local leaders have described the sect as "satanic" and called for it to be eradicated immediately." So they were not beating these people with "bibles" huh? This is modus operandi for these people, they will never own up to the fact that one of their fellow insane asylum occupants has fucked something up, it is their first action of denial to blame "Satan" . . . . . when clearly, it was christian bibles they were beating people with.

Murders and murders , no matter what catagory you put them in . The fact that they murdered pregnant women and children , only makes it even worse .

interesting the headline seems to offer that a 'satanic' group was involved. nothing in the article indicates either victims or perpetrators were satanic. it indicates that they "discovered an improvised church which belonged to a little-known religious sect called The New Light Of God," and indicates they were attempting to make the victims repent for their sins. i cannot square the headline with what i read and heard of the incident. there may have been a belief by the believers that the tribe is 'satanic', or the local officials, mainstream religious might find the "new light of god" to be 'satanic' but the article is silent on it. i have no journalism background, but the headline seems irresponsible, or at a minimum it is work worthy of a 'D.'

i would comment on what the religious did, but it was taken care of by others here.

I would say that The new Light of God is still the same old shit. The only thing that keeps this from happening in most of our communities is the fact that believers know fully well that they will go to jail. Take that away and you have this all over again and again.

Yes, it is appalling.
So too do I find your choice of language. I think this type of language is problematic for all agnostics/atheists. It is so inflammatory that it paints us all as that inflammatory.

I think it makes us all look either angry or ignorant or both.
I think we all have valid reasons to be angry with religion, history shows that.

Why then call these people both "proselytizing nutters" for the true Bible thumpers, beating folks down with Bibles.
and also demeaning the tribe as " illiterate"?

Two minutes on Google shows me otherwise.

Your link to MSN won't let me view without cookies, so fuck em. reading without clicking gave me the tribe and location.
Panama, so not some un-contacted stone age " illiterate" tribe.

"Many people around the world heard of the Ngäbes for the first time in February 2012 when they took to the streets to protect their land and people from the harmful and debilitating effects of mining and hydroelectric dams. The Panamanian government enacted a “Special Law 415” in early 2011 to protect the water, environmental and mineral resources in the Comarca Ngäbe-Buglé."
[hablayapanama.com]

Not exactly uncontacted illiterate, unless you consider Spanish not a language.
"Christopher Columbus and his men contacted the Ngäbe in 1502, in what is now known as the Bocas del Toro province in northwestern Panama."--wiki

"Spanish missionaries introduced Roman Catholicism in the early 1600s. Since the late 19th century, Protestant, Mormon and Evangelical missionaries of various types have also worked among the people. While the people are predominately Catholic, some Ngäbe have since adopted various forms of protestant Christian views, including:"

Jehovah's Witnesses
Latter-Day Saint (Mormonism)
Church of Christ
Cuerpo de Cristo
Methodism
Evangelical
Seventh Day Adventism"-- wiki

ALSO the tribe has long unusual issues around pregnancy and birth.

"A woman is considered "sick" (bren) while pregnant, and pregnancy is almost never discussed, even during birth. When the baby is deemed healthy, people consider it safe to acknowledge the pregnancy. Many women have traditionally given birth in their homes, with the help of their mother or a midwife. The government has established some women's clinics in Ngobe territory, seeking to improve women's health. The staff have had to adapt some of their practices to accommodate the women's culture and to encourage traditional midwives to come to the hospital."-- wiki

Is it not bad enough as it actually is? Indoctrinated and exploited natives twist Christian ideology and native tribal ideology into knots and react in a horrific fashion?
OR
Perhaps it only has that facade and is actually about the land/mineral/water rights they have been fighting over?

In all cases it is one part of that native group acting on another part of that same native group. Not missionaries coming in to cause issue, rather the spawn of missionaries from hundreds of years past coming home to roost.

How does it help them or us to use these derogatory terms? If we belittle the issue to such terms, how does that aid in coming to grips with it?

How utterly reprehensible!

I read about this last night. Such senseless deaths.

Personally, these idiots should be put in a room with the rest of the tribe and let them take care of them.