"The Russian Orthodox Church has endorsed Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. Many analysts have discarded the “religious” aspect of this war. A key underlying theory of Putin’s plan is to try to serve as the bastion for Christian Orthodoxy and in so doing, unite the Russian, Ukrainian, and Greek orthodox networks with the far-right faction of the Roman Catholic church. Russian Orthodox Patriarch Kirill has supported Putin’s action, while head of the US Orthodox church has condemned Putin and Kirill for making this a “holy war.” The idea of “Moscow, Third Rome” has old roots in American conservatism, and can be linked back to both Whittaker Chambers and Pat Buchanan. The Orthodox Church has also historically served an important intelligence function. This thread discusses the overlap between GRU intelligence and the church, aiming to exert control over key figures. Importantly, Putin is not religious, but he knows the Orthodox Church is a powerful tool for controlling and spying on the people needed to achieve his goals."
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.Putin is acting in defense of his country and of ethnic Russians who've been attacked for the last five years by shelling. NATO was not to expand according to the Minsk agreement. We lied!
these people now want to join NATO and EU and present a threat not only to Donbas, but the rest of Russia. Putin is right!
Silver1wun
Level 7
Mar 2, 2022
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Please tell me you’re joking
Complete nonsense.
President Putin isn't allowed to say denazification if they are our NAZIS. You see, that is how it works. NATO & FUKUS supported NAZIS are okay. Same thing for the racial supremacist political Zionists occupying Palestine. They are OUR fanatic murderers so whatever they do is okay.
They can bombard defenseless civilians by thousands with the most sophisticated ordnance; throw people out of their homes and give them away to racially favored people or simply demolish them; shoot down unarmed demonstrators with snipers picking them off from 30 meters away.
Our 'Greatest Generation' sacrificed dearly to vanquish the likes of what we support. It is a disgrace.
Yes it is very true that the Ukraine has been fighting a long, and probably ruthless war against the pro Russian separatist factions, in the east. But the separatist movement itself originates to a large degree in Putins political manipulations of them, who, his government quite deliberately set up, with false promisses, so that they could become martyrs to justify his hostility, and his invasion extends into attacking millions of quite innocent civilians, who almost certainly are not Nazis, and live hundreds of miles from the Russian enclaves. Nor is there any doubt that if he did succeed in a full occupation, that he would then retreat to the borders of the Russian enclaves, but would instead remain, sitting on and opressing a vastly larger ethnic minority, one bad thing does not justify another, especially a far larger one.
There are Nazi groups in the USA, as in most countries, by that logic a Russian invasion of the USA would be a justified and welcome thing.
My research indicates this is misinformation. See [rferl.org]
jeshuey
Level 8
Mar 1, 2022
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Fuck Putin.
Fuck the roc.
Fuck the rcc.
Fuck ANYONE who is in favor of this illegal, unwarranted, and vile attack by Russia.
There is no justification whatsoever that makes this unprovoked war against Ukraine remotely reasonable.
The Russian people are the only ones who can get rid of Putin.
They had better get on that, with a quickness.
KKGator
Level 9
Mar 1, 2022
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It’s extremely difficult in a state dominated by terror and spying. Very often citizens turn on their own families for speaking out against the Govt. Look at Nazi Germany on July 20, 1944. All those involved in that military putsch were slowly strangled by piano wire hung from meathooks.
@CuddyCruiser Know NO fear.
As always, politics make strange bedfellows. As always, society thinks that religion is not a business and is not political.
Anyway, here's the common enemies.
Subjugate and eliminate the following:
#1) Jews
#2) Gays
#3) "liberals"....or someone that supports 1 & 2 and the following too
#4) Atheists
#5) other minorities, or people that don't accept either the ideology or the religion.
The nuttiness of course, is that both religion and ideology, leave you confused.
Kafkaesque
twill
Level 7
Mar 1, 2022
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During WWII people criticized Pius XII for his refusal to criticize Hitler and the Nazi's. Problem was the church is forbidden to mingle in politics. Obviously, in the world of religion it's now simply about power and control and to hell with the old morality.
JackPedigo
Level 9
Mar 1, 2022
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Pretty sure that means they just can't send funds.
[americamagazine.org]
No I think he is just a greedy power hungry ass hole.
Oldman51
Level 7
Mar 1, 2022
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I would add to that he is clinically insane.
I came across something this evening that said Putin just cannot understand why people would prefer Western a style of government over his autocratic style of government. I think Putin had reportedly made this remark because his war is taking longer than expected and the Ukrainians will not give up.
DenoPenno
Level 9
Mar 1, 2022
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Gee, who does that sound like? I wonder if Trump came up with the scam on his own, or Putin coached him? Rhetorical question of course. Putin was coaching Trump from the time he announced he was running.
Barnie2years
Level 8
Mar 1, 2022
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Fuck Putin, and fuck the Russian Orthodox Church.
anglophone
Level 9
Mar 1, 2022
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Orthodox Clerics Call For Stop To War In Ukraine In Rare Challenge To Russian Government...see link.
Reignmond
Level 7
Mar 1, 2022
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