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Being an Atheist isn't always an easy path to walk, so many people will criticize and attack you for choosing the road less traveled BUT that's okay because if you are true to yourself then you can be true to others but the opposite is equally true.

SnowyOwl 8 June 3
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Just keep your mouth shout and don’t tell people you are an atheist. It is just as annoying as a religious nut blabbering about the crap they believe in . I don’t understand why the hell people have to tell others if they’re atheist . Some of my best friends don’t know that I am an atheist and I don’t give a crap.

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It also depends on where you live. Here, it is very rare when someone will criticize another for their non-religious beliefs. They will get criticized (or ostracized) if they announce they are a fundamentalist. Thanks for the posting. I will post something from my part of the country.

I posted from the Thousand Islands of Canada but I'm not the center of the universe, there are many places where just the slightest hint of blasphemy will get you beaten or killed. While there are more secular regions there are still plenty of people who will smile to your face but still think that you are:
a) less trustworthy and honest than a believer
b) less likely to act in a civil manner or have a strong ethical character and show kindness to others
c) more likely to have a criminal mind and be willing to commit a crime
d) less likely to frequent your business or offer you kindness

They are definitely more likely if they are believers to talk a pile of shit about you behind your back and while I don't really care what they think or say I do think it is wise to be aware of it in the event that they decide to take active steps based upon their misguided ideas and opinions.

@SnowyOwl I think a lot of this stems from self-doubt. They follow a line that helps them cope and shun or actively battle those that question those beliefs.

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Pretty much my road of life.

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Screwing them is so American male.

Instead, be who you are and ignore them.

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I've always been different and not following the crowd. I never follow trends and do not buy brand name food or clothing. My current car is a 2004 model. Others have tried to change me into a "get with it" type guy but it does not work. Job stress has increased some because of the minimum wage increase but I don't let it bother me much. I find it strange that a kid working for my corporation just bought a diesel truck with a hemi engine for $16, 0000 and goes outside at lunch time just to hear his engine run. Yes, I'm different but this guy will find it hard to buy fuel for that thing, let alone being able to pay for the truck.

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Take heart from the knowledge that the myth-believing populace of the USA is dwindling more and more rapidly. The country is only about 50 years behind Europe.

I'll be long dead before the US catches up with Europe.

Current political moves by the far right and their immoral minority backers may move the post back a century or more.

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That's the same for everyone. People criticise many times without having a clue of what's really going on with the people they are so critical about. Most of the time, the problem is they won't believe the truth if they are told.

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You know I think this is less and less true as time passes. Western societies are becoming more secular, with more notionally religious and fewer functionally religious people. I know we joke about being called baby eaters and all that, but fewer and fewer people really care about people's view on religion. Now I know in the south of America in those crazy bible belt states religion is a stench and non religious people often fear being 'outed', but these are problematic places anyway.

You know Bill, I would like to agree with you because that's a prettier future than the one I am concerned is already on its way and picking up speed. A really severe economic recession would quite easily tip people into supporting a theological system of far right ideology, that's usually how the formula plays out.

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"Find something you're good at and you love it and you'll never work a day in your life!" ~ John Holmes

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This has been the story of my life, people trying to make me feel weird, damaged, or crazy because I'm a non-conformist in a state that is all about conformity, avoidance of conflict or truth-telling. Most of the culture here is alien or stifling to me, so it is a battle to maintain my self- esteem and identity in the face of it.

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What a coincidence! I just heard some interesting commentary on the role of tribalism in the current gun violence crisis. I posted it only a moment ago. 😂

I'm not able to view your post because it is probably in the Trump Pinata group, where Hippie Chick, the moderator, barred me a while back, not for anything I said in there, but because she blocked me personally over an argument somewhere else on Agnostic. How petty to bar me from the whole group just because she is the group's moderator and had trouble with me somewhere else. What about the other members there who might enjoy my comments there? I doubt she consulted any of them, because it's all about her....

@TomMcGiverin Hmmm, the post I refer to in the above comment is in News & Links. I don't know why you can't see it. Strange!

Here is the text:
On the PBS Newshour tonight, New York Times columnist David Brooks opined that for Republicans, being anti-gun legislation is not a matter for debate. Rather, like belief in Trump's big lie that the 2020 election was stolen, being against gun control is a Republican talisman, a tribal marker, what T.S Elliot called an "objective correlative."

If Brooks is correct in his analysis, when Republicans say they oppose legislation that would limit access to guns, they are merely signalling their membership in a tribe. And their desire to remain in the tribe, and fear of being ostracized by their tribe, is greater than any desire to be logical, or reasonable, or to protect school children from losers wielding military weapons.

If this is true, then we are truly in a dark place. This is how Nazi ideology swept through Germany in the 1930s.

There's also video which you can find if you google Brooks and Capehart youtube 6/3/22

@Flyingsaucesir Many times during the last 6 years we have seen the attempts to normalize horrible behavior.

@silverotter11 Done Cheato's entire life has been about normalizing bad behavior.

@silverotter11, @Flyingsaucesir like demonising Russia having fomented & paid for the proxy war.

@FrayedBear Hey, if Putin doesn't like having to face well-armed Ukrainians defending their country, then there is a very simple solution. He can leave Ukraine.

@Flyingsaucesir like I've already asked - if your sister\ mother\ daughter is being raped or abused by someone are you going to turn your back & walk away?

@FrayedBear First, it's not a valid analogy. Second, we already know the real reason why Putin invaded Ukraine. He wants that land, because it is some of the most productive farm land in the world. So he invents a fake casus belli, and a fake history of Ukraine, and then he starts bombing Russian-speaking and Ukrainian-speaking civilians alike.

Putin is not going to get away with it. By now he knows that he's lost. It's only a matter of time before his war machine breaks down. If he has a shred of honor left he should take his little ivory-handled pistol, put it in his mouth, and blow his brains out. He's a dead man walking anyway. Why does he have to drag the whole country down with him? Do the honorable thing Vlad. Eat your gun.

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I feel fortunate, in my town of just over 8,000 we have 11 churches and in the 9 years I've lived here, I have not been harassed or even approached to join any of them. The topic of religion rarely comes up and on the occasion it does it has not been treated as a big deal. It's a nice friendly town and I love it. 🙂

Betty Level 8 June 3, 2022

Lucky you! I lived in a town even smaller than that and it had even more churches and only two bars, a very bad cultural ratio in my book. Unlike yours, most of the people there were very negatively judgmental towards those who were different or new in town. I think I was somewhat notorious for not attending any church there.

@TomMcGiverin Been there done that-small town life can suck for those not of the flock.

@Betty
You're so lucky 😀

@TimeOutForMe Thank you, I know I am and I don't take it for granted. 🙂

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