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Happy New Year. You surely want to know that 2023 factors are 7, 17 and 17. That pretty much ensures this will be a BIBLICAL year, with all those numerological interpretations. Per Google: In numerology, the number 17 is associated with change and progress.

Seventeen is the only prime number which is the sum of four consecutive primes: 2, 3, 5, & 7.

And 17 squared?!!! And 17 is the 7th prime number. The number 17 is the most common randomly chosen number between 1 and 20.

The Beatles’ hit song “I Saw Her Standing There” was originally going to be called “Seventeen.”

Followers of Islam must perform 17 raka’ahs, or a set of prayers and movements, in each of their 5 daily times of prayer.

In Roman numerals, 17 is XVII, which, when rearranged, becomes VIXI. In Latin, VIXI means “I have lived,” which essentially means “I am dead.” Alitalia, an Italian airline doesn’t have a row 17 for this very reason, and some hotels do not have a room 17.

The total number of syllables in a Haiku is 17.

And we're just getting started...

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It's interesting that 2023 is divisible by 17 squared. However, it becomes even more interesting when you realise that the year 2023 spans the years 1444 and 1445 in the Islamic calendar. 1444 = 4.19.19 and 1445 = 5.17.17. That's another 17 squared and a 19 squared! I think the odds of a triple like that are millions to one. Something big on the way?

Can you expand on what you mean when you say it spans the years 1444 and 1445?...

Curiously, 2022 prime factors are 2, 3 and 337...


And then there's the 17th of January when my birthday occurs, just like clock work.

BillF Level 7 Jan 2, 2023

No, I didn't


Numerology is just an example of Group Theory. The set of single digit whole numbers (base 10) under "natural" addition forms a Group. Groups have amazing symmetry, and the things about numerology that appears to be magical is just that symmetry and the properties of a Group. Not magic, just mathematics. The significances associated with the numbers are just fanciful fabrications combined with Group properties and maybe a few coincidences.


Bloody hell!! Don't get them started


Fun post! I hope you won't take it amiss if I make one small correction. The factors of 2023 are 1, 7, 17, 119, 289, 2023. 🙂


I'm not sure how I'd specify what I meant.
"Prime factors would be 1,7 and 17." Or:
"prime factors to generate 2023"(?)

@racocn8 The post reads "...1, 17, and 17." Easy mistake to make.


Then there's "Edge of 17" by Stevie Nicks.


Janice Ian's 1st hit song was "At 17", and Frank Sinatra sang "When I Was 17."

Yes, that's one of the old songs that grabs me the worst...


In the bibble I read of 3 called the father, son, and holy goat. All three of them are one. (WTF?) Then just today I read that celebrity deaths come in three's. I did not know that. Is the dead Pope a celebrity?

He was a legend in his mind.

"three's" ?

When in doubt, leave the apostrophe out.


I might tell you the significance of 288 but it`s too gross.

How about 496?

@rainmanjr There are 64 hexagrams in the Tao Te Ching and some people wonder if the Chinese were the first to use binary code, 64 being an number base in computing.

@ASTRALMAX They are good at math. haha

Oh, come on. Pretty please? Or DM me.

@rainmanjr If you take a look at Joseph Needham's Histroy of China and Civilization it becomes apparent that they were good at at many things, originators. Printing was not invented by Guttenberg (1393–1406) but by the Chinese in AD 700.

@ASTRALMAX There is a theory that the invention of porcelain held the Chinese back. Whereas Europe and the Romans had glass. This gave western technology a distinct advantage when the tec. is applied to spectacles. It can extend scholars' or artisans' working life by decades.

@273kelvin I believe that the Chinese used glass for mainly decorative purposes as in the arts and crafts. Europeans found other useful applications for glass.

I'm googling it 😂

@ASTRALMAX They also invented pizza. That alone makes them great.

@ASTRALMAX From what I understand, the Chinese had a philosophy that basically said "new inventions or ideas should not be used to change society". Hence all those groundbreaking things like gunpowder, printing or even glass stayed as trifles or toys. This mindset still persists to this day. A friend of mine recently came back from 15 years working in Beijing. His day jobs were legal proofreading and teaching but he also wrote ghost stories as a sideline. One day his boss calls him in and says "Do these stories contain any of your beliefs?"
"What do you mean by "beliefs"?"
"Well, they are about the afterlife etc. Do they contain your belief around such things?"
"I suppose so"
"Then do not attempt to get them published or you will lose this job and will not be welcome in China anymore"

@273kelvin China is mainly an atheist country although there are Daoist Shrines and even a stop on the Beijing subway train, Yonghegong (Lama Temple) station. China does not import religions and has a zero tolerance of religious beliefs that attempt to interfere in the workings of the state.

@ASTRALMAX But ghost stories FFS? It may sound trivial but the suppression of ideas costs you money in the long term. Think of all the millions of $ that the US has made via Hollywood off of Steven King. Poe etc. Not to mention the soft power that kind of cultural export brings. It is no accident that freedom of speech was the very 1st amendment the founding fathers laid down.

@273kelvin It is not limited to ghost stories and I think that belief in UFO's does not go down well nor does belief in time travel.

@ASTRALMAX Yes my friend binge-watched Dr Who when he came back. Also, he told me the Hobbit was heavily edited to try and cast the dragon in a better light, as dragons are seen as more amicable in China.

@273kelvin Ten years ago while in a bookshop in Beijing I noticed copies of James Joyce's Ulysses printed in Mandarin. A female Chinese professor, Dai Congrong, translated Joyce's Finnegan's Wake into Mandarin. I cannot even begin to imagine what it is like to read Finnegan's Wake in Mandarin for in English it is about as readable as the international telephone directory.

@ASTRALMAX I have to say though, having watched "Happy Days" on French TV the Fonz is even cooler in french.


The number 9 is somewhat fascinating. It would seem that no matter what number is used to multiply it, all the numbers obtained add up to nine, when halved or reduce to 9

There's a significant amount of math scholarship devoted just to that feature.

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