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Just so bizarre that we have to create a category for humans who accept Reality over fantasy. How is it that we're in the minority? Upside Down, eh?

Aggie 5 Dec 9
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In most areas of life, work, etc., at most, 20% of people are competent, do the most and most useful work, etc.

Likewise in the realm of thought and belief. In fact, most people don't know how to reason, think critically, do not think for themselves, examine their ideas and assumptions. So, upside down? yeah. Incomprehensible? far from it.

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how do you know were not the ones in a fantasy?

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Humans have been believing in a Supreme Being for thousands of years, so (to me) it's not bizarre that they still believe.

It's difficult if not impossible to get one person to change an established (in their mind) truth, much less get thousands/millions to do that.

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I don't think it's so strange, really. From what I can tell, early humans had questions about life and death and pain and the origin of the world, but they lacked the tools to provide an explanation for any of it. So they developed mythology, and from mythology came more formal religion. And religion is a powerful control system, so once it had embedded into the human mind, it became difficult to shake. And people still have questions, and fear death, and want to believe their misery and suffering have meaning, etc. So a rational approach remains in the minority, I suspect, just because religion satisfies a psychological or emotional need in people, even if it's really a non-answer at its core.

This is such an excellent comment ,I will not attempt to make one of my own

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Think about how our society promotes Reality and Fantasy on television,video games and movies. There are more Fantasy programs, movies and games than ever before. More DC Comic characters are being projected on the silver screen with sequels and remakes of Batman, Wonder Woman, and Spiderman. TV has Orville, Gotham, etc. You get the picture. Is it any wonder that we have REAL NEWS and FAKE NEWS?

I have recently thought about the fact that so much of our entertainment involves people pretending to be someone else (actors), in imagined, hypothetical scenarios. And we revere them in a our culture of celebrity. And the phenomenon is as old as storytelling, pageant, theater. It's apparently a human need and needed form of expression and community. But just like teaching children about Santa lays the groundwork for rewards and punishments by deity, it tends toward a dissociation from reality.

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Is it really so surprising? We have 1/3 of the country that believes everything that comes out of Trumps mouth is truth. Frankly, I find it surprisingly that people don’t believe that Batman is real. Willful self delusion is is a very useful defense mechanism when reality sucks.

Batman's not real??? Then why do people argue so strenuously whether Superman or Batman wold win a fight??? 😉

Probably for the same reason that they argue about the origin of the istari?

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Yes.. The bulk of humanity isn’t as smart as they think they are 😉 ...which is further evidence for human evolution.. Welcome to the cutting edge, a lonely yet gratifying place ~

Varn Level 8 Dec 9, 2017
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You'd think the ones in reality would be the majority. Millennials are coming out as secular more now than ever. I'm a Millennial. So are the next generation after Millennials.

Let’s hope it stays that way… (god, is ‘hoping’ secular praying..?) I’d thought the same back in ‘the age of aquarius’ ..or whatever that was. Religion wasn’t cool, then, seemingly to be ‘different,’ the “I Found It” campaign began ...sucked a shitload of my contemporaries in. Reagan was in - and religion was on a roll! I’ve cousins who’ve never recovered! Hopefully, as the stars are currently aligned, your generation will continue forward … and having contributed a couple of Atheist Warriors myself - I’m rooting for you! (is rooting anything lik….. 😉

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What percentage of the earth's population would you say is 'sane'? What percentage of the people you meet in your life time are 'stable'? We are living on a infinitesimally small piece of rock when compared to the universe. On this speck of a planet are diseases and natural disasters that will easily shorten our existence. On top of that we are self-aware. That could drive anyone crazy if we didn't make our lives worthwhile to ourselves AND others. That's all we have. Not everyone learns that, even in a lifetime.

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Yes, it's upside-down in this topsy-turvy world. What's getting my goat lately is the way some people on this site won't let go of the way they view the world through Christian eyes. (I guess it's just my problem, though.)

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I call myself non delusional

Yes! Lol

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It's pretty upside down and it feels even worse being in such a red state.

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What is even odder is that since we believe in evidence and reality we are not called believers and the other non-believer or imaginers.

@ atheist , so we should call them fact deniers?

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fear of death is common...taking a fear and rationalizing it...the stories we tell ourselves to deal with our unknowns is pretty common...I don't know why it is surprising that a majority of people don't like to think that they just end...in fact, no one can imagine what 'just end' is....we can verbalize it...we can try to conceptualize it...but our own end is truly unknowable...and we, as a species, are very afraid of the unknown.

YES! So true. Fear of the unknown, fear of change, fear of what others think.... geesh! Living in fear, too many do though, very sad.

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nothing stranger than humans

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