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How do the men here feel about having a relationship with ? "an older woman"? Not just in private, either. A friendship that grows into a comfortable, easy...coupling. LOL. I hate labels, but needed to express this SOMEHOW. Thanks in advance. Be honest, but not unkind, please. ? (Having asked this, I should say I love men of all ages. Attraction is hard to quantify. Sapiosexual. Not ever sure I'll be interested in ANYONE long-term. Haven't been yet. I'm OK either way).

FoundMyNietzsche 6 May 12
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Why would you even ask? Just do it. Women age better than men usually, so if they go for younger men, so be it.

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I'm 31. the past few times i've attempted dating have been at least a 3-7 year gap with me being on the young end. i relate to older women more because i'm far more matured, emotionally than most guys my age.. where it seems to fail is the sexual chemistry aspect. more often than not i'm left with far more drive and kink than my older lady friends. not saying that's a characteristic of all women in that age group (35-41) or so, just my experience.. seems like i'm going to be settling in one department or another, either emotional or physical connection 😟

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Most men wouldn't have a problem with it. Ultimately we just want to be happy, same as you.

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Who's the lucky youngster? I envy him!

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Who's the lucky youngster? I envy him!

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When I was 19 I had a relationship with a friend from work who was 39. My first wife was a year and a half older. The biggest age difference the other was also 20 years. At this stage of my life (66) I am more interested in someone in my general age bracket, but would never let age, higher or lower, be the primary concern over how I feel about someone I feel attracted to.

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"Older" is a relative term. Older than dirt? Older than me? Older than someone who can't name the four Beatles, much less the "fifth" one? Age is mostly just a state of mind, in my opinion. But if you get to the point of being older than my mom... well... let's just say thay I'll be happy to come by on Sundays to the piano for you in the lobby of the Senior Living Community. ?

@FoundMyNietzsche As if things weren't complicated enough... [en.m.wikipedia.org]

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I've dated much older and much younger. It's all good.

and this is I dislike math.

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WEll, as a (much) older man of 82, I date gals in my age group. As long as they seem healthy and reasonably fit, I feel good about it.

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Gee, France' s first lady is 17 years older than her hubby.

It doesn't seem to have phased the French as much as it does Americans. And yet 45's age to his much younger wife is never a problem. Hmmm ...

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As I have seen women that I loved and lusted after in my youth bear the marks of growing older, I have come to this conclusion:

What I find truly beautiful about a woman is not susceptible to the ravages of time.

I am no longer interested in a woman based on her fertility capacity. I am interested in kindness, wisdom, a thirst for life, and a willingness to make the most of what time she has left.

Just for reference, I am 56, and the three most desirable women in my life are 52, 57 and 47.

As far as physical relationships go, I want a woman who knows what she's doing. I don't have time to train a 20-something.

@FoundMyNietzsche And sometimes...that's their loss. We could show them a thing or two that they might appreciate. But, I get it-raging hormones seek their own kind 😛

@FoundMyNietzsche I don't know your age (I could look, but it's not necessary), but what I DO know, is that my mother married a man 20-something years younger than her when she was 49. Some people (I'm not one of them, and it sounds like you're not, either) seem to feel that the affections of a youthful person validates that they still have sex-appeal, something which they are afraid of losing.

20 year olds don't need training these days.

@FoundMyNietzsche Fair enough. In my defense, I note that training is something people do, too: musicians train, soldiers and police officers train, employees at new positions train, and so on. I see relating to people as a skill, which we can (and do!) learn over time, and love-making is also such a skill. I have seen many an unhappy relationship because the lovers in them assume (wrongly, I think) that sex is something we are born knowing how to do, when in fact the opposite is true.

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Well, how much older?
At 68 I'd say probably not.
At 40, maybe.
Is she really rich?
😉

@FoundMyNietzsche, I think that may depend on your definition of happiness! ? There was an article in AARP magazine about stars with younger spouses. The oldest one was 30 different in age. Most were 20 or more and fairly long term. All of them had big money! And they all looked happy! ? This was one of them: [huffingtonpost.com]

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At my age time seems more precious; not as meant in the usual way. To reach a level in friendship that qualifies for sexual intimacy still requires time. I am drawn to women of strong character/integrity who know and love who they are. And that is just for getting acquainted.

There is little time to repeat errors of anxious, impetuous youth. Especially regarding something as commonly available as 'casual sex'. Borrrring.

An old Swedish proverb, in a way, illustrates the difference between it and bonded sexual intimacy wherein total trust and surrender are involved. But it applies to another emotion altogether.

"Shared sorrow is half sorrow. Shared joy is double joy."

Am I saying casual sex, an activity in which we borrow and trade is unpleasurable? Hardly... It is, however less than half of the promise Nature holds out from sharing.

Most women, not all, at my age, but for a few of those widowed have given up seeking that level and if they've never known it, gave up long ago.

Also because of precious time, I don't care for very young women because ANYTHING in common or commonly understood is rare. Time required to explain isn't worth it. They are young enough to learn for themselves.

Women, really get a worse hand dealt because they mature early, seem to lose a lot of interest and trust (for good reasons) earlier and my sex dies earlier. The few left are largely arrested at 20, still chasing hard bodies, with a Hell of a lot les$ to trade on.

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@FoundMyNietzsche There you go again...

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Hard to find many women older than me. But I have craved the affections and friendship of quite a few.

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I have only dated a couple of ladies younger than myself. I have had 4 actual relationships, ie mutually exclusive, they were all older by between 13 months and 3 years. I set my desired age range at 5 years either side, but hey, it the rght lady came along, age is irrelevant.

@FoundMyNietzsche I know it changes as we get older, but have always found it a bit creepy, old guys chasing younger girls.. I guess at 60 a lady of 50 could be ok, but at 45 they seem so young. Ahhh relativity.

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While I would gladly consider any woman 21 years of age or older, and for the most part date women close to my age, I do enjoy the company of and have dated women older than myself, with the oldest being 24 years my senior. Most of the interactions I've had with older women have been gratifying, and they were really wonderful women, I had zero shame in being seen with them out in public. I'm not going into anymore details, as this comment could become X rated, but suffice to say it's good to hear that women are living their lives as they see fit and not let age get in the way. Good post.

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Have you thought of setting up an 'Older Women and Younger Men' section on agnostic.com?

A place of respect - no mention of cougars, cubs or toyboys. I'd join it.

It is! Someplace where people don't say things like "She's so fit" or "She's in great shape for her age" and think it's a compliment.

@FoundMyNietzsche Yes, I agree on all points! It's hard enough to find someone to share my life without adding the restrictions of race, ethnicity or age (and sometimes religion). In fairness, though, I was in a long-term relationship with someone 19 years younger, and the societal pressure can be massive. It's becoming more common but there's a way to go yet.

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I know of three couples where the man is younger than the woman.

One is a friend of mine. His wife is 17 years older than him. Another is a friend's brother whose wife is 20 years older. They've been together over two decades. The other is a couple on social media. Again, the man is 20 years younger.

In real life it happens. But not in our media.

BTDT in a 20 year relationship with an 11 year gap...

Same interests in music, humor, a good lot of social issues. Hyper attracted on meeting early on.

@FoundMyNietzsche It was cool at first, then as time went on it was a PITA & I hope to never go there again. It sucks tho, because most of the music I like hits the -10+ crowd than myself -_- People my age don't often know who Aphex Twin or DeadMau5 etc are 😟 😟 😟

@FoundMyNietzsche blush why thank you! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Ah I'd have to check the latter 2. I DEARLY LOVE electronic/industrial/EDM... i'm in "electric jams" if you're curious to check out some other stuff. 🙂

@FoundMyNietzsche Thanks! I have portishead, MA. Icelandic, now I want old sugar cubes in my van! Meant to do that last night! Thanks for the reminder! ~8D

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I know you're looking for a male perspective but I thought I'd throw in my three cents. I'm all about the connection no matter the age and I shirk away from generalizations. However, I thought you may appreciate the answer Dan Savage gave to a woman who was worried about the long-term viability with her relationship with a much younger man, and if she should tell him to go. Most particularly, she was worried that her sexual appetite would diminish before his:

"Stop worrying about how you're going feel a quarter of a century from now.

Things that are important to you at 50—like having your ass fucked on the regular—may not be so important to you at 75.

Your boyfriend could predecease you and you could wind up spending your final years alone—or, hey, you could die together in a fire or a car wreck or a plane crash or chariot fisting scene gone tragically wrong. We Catholics call that, "Looking on the bright side."

Your boyfriend could be done with sex at 50—a chronic medical condition or anti-depressants or carbs could crater his libido—and you could be the one banging hot fuckbuddies on the side."

Who says romance is dead :/

Your sex drive is 90% hormonal.
If you start having problems, find a good BIO-IDENTICAL HORMONE DOCTOR.
My wife and I did, and she has worked wonders for not only our libido but our entire physical life. We both have more energy , sleep well, and have sex almost on a daily basis.

Follow up.
We are 71 and 69.

@Ellatynemouth Sorry, I should have given a disclaimer about Dan Savage's frankness (and in turn, mine for using it). The intent was just to dissuade the common fear in a relationship such as this.

@kanawah Very true and valuable advice!

@kanawah Though I have no mate to 'verify', I know Suzanne Somers for years. (customer) She has openly claimed that she and Al are at it on a daily basis; sometimes more. I've also never seen him without a grin...

@FoundMyNietzsche Thank you, Emma! And I return the compliment for your interesting conversation thread. 🙂

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Some of the best connections that I have ever had was with older women. There is a great mix of beauty, character and experience in older women that is relatable and sexy and for me that almost always makes it more than just a physical attraction.

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Older or younger. I've never been very age specific.

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Dating older women is awesome.

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Never been an issue with me. If iike someone that's enough.

Coldo Level 8 May 12, 2018
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I've had relationships with older women and it's usually went pretty well.

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Its called a Boy Toy, but they found out much to their surprize

@FoundMyNietzsche

In my language is called "OLD GREEN MAN".

@FoundMyNietzsche So Much for Male Prostitution.

@FoundMyNietzsche Never Jealous. Whatever floats your boat as the saying goes. From 18 to 80, If they can't walk then carry them. 95% of sex is Psychological. Your forgetting Tan/Bi's, Cross Dressers among the market. Lots of Corporate CEO's and other Persons of Recognition UH Hum are making headlines every day. I am wiser at getting into my late 60's but I fail to see your sexist, mean spirited jab which means I may have hit a nerve.

@FoundMyNietzsche I made no personal character assassinations to you in my initial response. You reference to my being sexist or mean spirited which I would assume that I am abusive. You seem to have brought into this other posts that I have made comments about that have no reason to be part of this controversy which I think is more a weakening attempt to discredit your accusations. .
Go and reference mean spirited which ends your initial comment. Again I seem to have hit a nerve and leave what I have posted in other areas out of the converse.

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