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Does anybody else cringe at the sound of someone’s saying,” Thank you Jesus for dying on the cross for my sins?”

I just want to make sure it is not just me to hear someone say that. It’s like they are constantly kissing jesus’ ass for so-called sins that all took place and started with one man and one woman eating from a tree because a talking snake convinced them to do so. Leave your thoughts below and tell me what you think about this.

EmeraldJewel 7 July 25

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I just ignore them and let them be. If they take a long time with I will say something and then leave. There is nothing they can say that will change my mind and go back to the bs.

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I just hate when people feel the need to inject the words god, Jesus, Lord or any other filler into every conversation, no matter how mundane. It becomes a filler, as if the more they can use it regardless of the topic, the more points they score with their imaginary friend. Must be tough keeping all those records for how many times they say your name for the millions of true believers so they can collect their brownie points when they die! LOL

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Yes, but what is even worse is that he didn’t really die on the cross he came back to life. The only ones that die and come back are zombies and vampires.

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I just do my best not to roll my eyes too loudly.

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I'm fine with people saying it, but it is what led me to renounce my Christian bases. If god knows everything, he know lucifer would rebel, he knew eve would eat the fruit, and if he is so powerful why does he need to send himself and sacrifice himself to himself in order to forgive us for what he could have prevented. Sounds like a really bad way to go about being benevolent and all loving.

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I got queasy just reading that.

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Not really.
i think it is wonderful that people have an outlet to feel unconditional Love.

It only bothers me when people say this, yet are not actively trying to better themselves..as Jesus told them to.

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still trying to work out what sin is

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It's a good thing that a few people I know don't have paint brushes... I would be covered in buckets of blood....

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Yup, you're the only one.

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It is important to realize (and I'm sure christians do NOT), if we do not sin, jebus died for nothing. (actually he didn't die at all, but was just inconvenienced for a few days).

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I try not to be condescending by just rolling my eyes and taking a deep breath.

Omots Level 7 Aug 7, 2018
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I cringe internally. No point in making a public display of disdain.

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That whole paradigm makes no sense...too bizarre. That would be creepy to hear someone say that outside of Sunday school. In fact, it's super creepy that people say that kind of thing to young children more often.

Carin Level 8 Aug 1, 2018
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I am cringing constantly around such people - don't get many of them here .

jacpod Level 8 July 29, 2018
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Died way before I was born (if he even existed). I didn't ask him to. Knew nothing about my "sins". Can't pay for them. I refuse this "favor".

The scapegoat system is the ultimate in immorality. Asking someone else to pay for your crimes is moral cowardice. We mere humans would never accept the idea that someone could go to prison in place of another, serving the sentence for something they did.

The only reason Xians accept this system is that they also believe in a tyrannical, incredibly unjust God person whose retribution for the most minor infraction is eternal torture.

I believe the bible doesn't teach this.. i can show you how it teaches all have been saved and that God is bringing everyone back to "him"
It isn't a scapegoat, per say.. it is a means to find forgiveness when you cannot even forgive yourself.
Sadly people do use it as a means to do whatever they like.. but this isn't what it's purpose is

I could also go on and explain how even Christians get judged.. ..and it isnt about avoiding the reprimands..
..but I'm out of mental energy today

@OccultaUmbra That would be quite a feat, considering how many (including Paul the apostle) have used it to "prove" exactly the opposite: that "all have sinned and fallen short", and therefore unless they accept this sacrificial offering PDQ, they're all going to a real hot place.

Interesting fact: Jesus is also God, and he's also the Holy Spirit, all are one. Therefore God sacrificed himself to himself. It would be so much simpler (accepting for the sake of argument that this God person exists) to just grant forgiveness to everyone he wanted to forgive. But remember, this is the God who sent ten plagues to Egypt, and after each one, sent Moses to ask Pharaoh to let the Hebrews go; but before Moses asked, God took the precaution of hardening Pharaoh's heart, so that he would refuse, thus giving God an excuse to send another plague; rinse and repeat. The Hebrew/Christian God works in extremely mysterious, not to mention circuitous, ways.

To reiterate: we would not need forgiveness (again, for the sake of argument, I also don't believe in an afterlife) if there wasn't a God so extremely vindictive and harsh as to pass a sentence of eternal damnation for such offenses as picking up sticks on the Sabbath or speaking ill of Him, or believing in a different Deity. That last one is the biggie, and especially considering that we have NO rational basis to believe in ANY gods, being punished for non-belief is akin to a traffic ticket for failing to stop at that invisible stop sign over there. I would rather not be in an afterlife with that god, thanks anyway.

@Paul4747 well i agree if thats who you think God is.. i however believe scribes where corrupting the Law and Image of God for their personal Gain

I'm not even sure the old testament is that literal or supposed to be seen as literal.

There is no eternal torment in the bible.. Rome had to translate that into it through Latin.. ..and terror has kept it in there.

Paul is actually a big supporter of the salvation of all... ..even claims Jesus was a Man and not God.

..and you don't think feeling forgiven is essential?

I still don't have the mind right now..
I will pull up verses and better rebuttles later

@OccultaUmbra Only a person I've wronged can forgive me. If I insult you, I have to apologize to you and ask your forgiveness. If I take something that doesn't belong to me, I have to give it back or pay it back and work to earn forgiveness from the person I stole it from. That's the only way forgiveness can be earned.

A very generous person can forgive someone who hasn't earned it, but again, that's for a wrong committed against them, not against someone else. If Bob hits you, I can't forgive him. You have to do it. That's where the whole "Heavenly Forgiveness" racket breaks down.

As a Corrections officer, I've seen hundreds of men who can't earn forgiveness from their victims, because they've done unforgivable things. Their victims, in many cases, are beyond being able to forgive- because they killed them. In other cases the things they did scarred their victims for life, emotionally and psychologically. But those men, turning to religion, claim that "God has forgiven them" for their crimes against other human beings. In my moral compass, that's impossible.

I apologize if I'm overly argumentative, but I feel strongly about this.

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Not any more because they know not what they say, They follow blindly and state the same ole stuff time after time. As one comedian said, imagine jesus coming back to earth and seeing everyone wearing a reminder of the time on the cross. He would say hey , it was better than this you idiots. Why do you remind me of something you idiots do not get.

EMC2 Level 8 July 27, 2018
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I always have the strangest look on my face when I hear that. Perplexed, because it is so ridiculous!

Lol it is ridiculous. Half the time I can’t fathom how so many people believe it.

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Yea,

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If my stomach is full at the time - hearing that makes it difficult to keep the food down !

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Which sins are we talking about? The sins of that man and woman banging each other and then their sons doing the same between then to start humanity? I can't think of any way aroun it, let alone from where we ended up with that many different races from just that man and woman. Talking about freaking miracles !!!!! ?

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It all creeps me out. I hate the kitten fishing on Facebook. Every single post is about Jesus's love and blessings.

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It all creeps me out. I think religious people have to "wear" their religion like a badge to prove just how "good" they are. Sometimes i think religion makes one feel superior.

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When I was religious, I also cringed during communion when the pastor said “the body of christ shed for you” and “the blood of christ shed yor you.” That was sooooo goolish.

*ghoulish --- unless you mean a combination of ghoulish and foolish 😉

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"God willing" or "by God's grace" are probably the two I hear most often, earning an eye roll.

Dew25 Level 7 July 26, 2018
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