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Should public nudity be legal?

The AANR (American Association for Nude Recreation) has the view that public nudity should be legal as long as the person is not doing anything with the intent of sexually arousing either themselves or anyone else.

The most stated reason by members is to get over "body shame", because doing so helps boost self esteem and confidence. There have been studies showing that children raised in nudist family have higher self esteem and confidence and are just generally more comfortable with who they are as a person.

On the other side there are those persons who seek out nude beaches and nudist events who have seual agendas. AANR nudist clubs don't tolerate such persons, and forcibly remove them shoudl they show up. I refer to such persons as "swingers" because they seem to fit the swinger lifestyle more than they do the nudist lifestyule

However, as a point of freedom. A freedom of expression, which does tno do harm to anyone, shoudl public nudity be legal? As atheists are nto burdened with religious mores , I was just wondering what the people here think?

I am a natuirst (nudist) and I have ridden the Portland (OR) World Naked Bike Ride, which has over 10,000 participants each year, and I have gone on nude hikes, visited clothing optional beaches

So, what are your thoughts?

snytiger6 9 Oct 18
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PublIc nudIty must be banned,It doesn`t hIghlIght decentness of character. Human cIvIlIzatIon Invented cloths to cover theIr body. ClothIng should be decent to show,not be vulger to see. Decent clothIng Is a symbol of modernIsm , and nudIty Is a symbol of backwardness.

FAIZ Level 5 Mar 26, 2018

A lot of ideas from modern society came from Ancient Greece which idealized the nude body. In the ancient Olympics athletes competed in the nude. In ancient Greece and Rome clothign was more for warmth and protection than it was a sign of "beign civilized".In many cultures, although they wore clothing, thee was no shame associated with nudity. Shame for the nude body is a learned trait.

@snytiger6 clothing is actually being associated with civilised society, don't be panic,if ur daughter or sister roam arround u being naked what would u do? Will u support ? Or support them to be naked,clothing must be decent not be vulgar. Beleive or not but nudity seems good for others when a chance comes to apply it on ourseleves then tenets become change.

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Americans tend to be very puritanical. many countries in the world accept peoples desire to be naked in certain places, like the beach. in Spain there is no nudity law so you can be naked anywhere you like, which I think is excellent as I love being nude.
In America I believe that you can be put on the sex ofender register for being naked in public.when did being naked turn you into a sex offender? crazy

Technically, in some states, but not all, just beign naked can put you on a sex offenders list. In Washington State is specifically beign naked in front of children. Evidently the law makers of various states ,made the presumption, in their small perverted minds, that if you are naked then you must be wanting to do something sexual.

As many people only get naked for either bathing or sex, for many it is hard to imagine beign naked outside of one of those two contexts. Feeling ashmaed of nudity and of your body is a learned behavior, which seems to go unquestioned as to whether or not it is healthy or reasonable. Many states in the U.S. reflect the nonthinking, and blind acceptance of presumptions which are rooted in religion and religious ideas.

In the U.S. a lot of our culture still carries the religious idea that authority is nto to be questioned, especially with conservatives, and religion teaches or rather demands that people do not question their authority.

So, people are taught to feel shame about nudity and to be ashamed of their bodies, and they seldom question whether or not they actually should feel ashamed.

It's a form of cultural dysfunction.

Not strictly true these days - although it was more tolerated 40 years ago, at the end of the Franco era. Nowadays, certain beaches are designated OK for nudity, but there must be signs informing the public of the fact. That way one can choose whether to rush on to the beach or shun it.

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I personally think it should be legal. The problem with many people is they associate nudity with sex. Which is why this question is even a question. That to me can only be alleviated by allowing public nudity and showing people that just cause someone is naked does not imply that sex is involved or that there should be any shame in it.

That being said I prefer nudity over clothing as I am sure many do. Hopefully one day we can change the mindset and show people there is no shame in it and not to feel threatend by nudists.

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Optional is ok for some but not necessarily for others. This reminds of an old joke. A couple of shortsighted people were walking down the street when an older man jogged past them naked. One turned to the other and and said 'did you just see that man run past' and the other said 'yes' and then the first person asked 'what was he wearing?' and the other replied 'I'm not sure, but it sure needed ironing'.

RonB Level 5 Mar 30, 2018
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There just aren't very many people l want to see naked, especially in a restaurant.

Of course there wold have to be some regulation for hygienic purposes.

It really isn't about "seeing" people, so much as it is about personal freedom.

@snytiger6 No, it is definitely about seeing people.

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Not really. From practical reasons to personal ones I think they should open a lot more areas for nudity but I don't like the idea of general public nudity.

AmyLF Level 7 Apr 1, 2018
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The less clothes I wear the better I feel

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I don't have a problem with as long as people carry a towel to sit on or hygyne reasons. For me personaly, I went topless at the beach for the first time last year. It was a big confidence booster because I'm transgender and was self consiece of my breasts. Now I go topless often anytime a man would, at the beach, hiking, etc. As far as I know it's legal in Hawaii and should be anywhere.

Good for you! Feeling positive about one's own body is a good thing. In Oregon, I have seen transgender persons go fully nude at the beach, even though they were in mid transition (breasts up top, penis down below).

I think most of our cultural taboos regarding nudity are rooted in religion, which has used fear, guilt and shame to try to manipulate us and maintain power and control over us.

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It's a shame what religious leaders have done to people over the course of history. Telling people they were born in sin and should be ashamed of their bodies is unnatural and perverse. Nuns in the Middle Ages were ordered to shower with their habits on so as not to offend God. The purpose is to reject our animal nature, but that's precisely what we are.

I look at it as religion attempts to control us by instilling feelings of fear, guilt and shame, as a way of manipulating us. Cults do the same thing, only to a much greater extent.

Naturism/Nudism helps people get over feeling shame about their bodies and their appearance. Children raised i Naturist/Nudist homes have a great deal more self confidence and self esteem, because they were nto taught to be ashamed of their bodies and who they are.

The rest of us have to "recover" from a body shaming cultural poractice3 rooted in religion. Even many here, on this site, who have given up religious beliefs still unknowingly have kept a lot of dogma rooted in religion, such as the fear, guilt and shame regarding nudity.

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To tell the truth I spent some of the happiest days of my life in Paradise Lakes Resort and the Caliente Resort north of Tampa. After a short while nobody even notices you have no clothes on. There's a wonderful feeling of liberation throwing off your clothes. One feels like a kid again.

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Nudity should be a personal choice at appropriate locations, and we could go on all day about what's appropriate. Nudity, even on city streets, in some European countries is either legal or a minor offense. I didn't believe it until I saw it in Budapest.

And, yes, I have seen it in Portland "keep it weird" Oregon.

We used to drive into the Gifford Pinchot National Forest and have nude picnics, but that probably violated some Federal Law.

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Nothing wrong with making upper body nudity - in certain public areas - legal, but full body nudity does unfortunately run the risk of causing sexual harassment and possible violence. Therefore, regrettable as it may be, full body public nudity, of necessity, has to be illegal. Here in Spain there are many public beaches where full nudity is allowed, but there have to be signs warning the general public that they are entering a nudity permitted beach. Spain does however have a reasonably lax attitude to being topless on a beach.

Nudity is legal in USA....full nudity.

@DUCHESSA Anywhere, any time? Strewth!

@Petter There are hundred of Nudist resorts and beaches allover USA...I have been to several of them.

@DUCHESSA I don't mean in resorts - I mean in areas completely open (unrestricted access) to the general public, such as beaches, sports grounds, streets, etc. Here in Spain nudist beaches have unrestricted access, but must have signs to inform those who do not wish to see others naked about it. Most nudist beaches in Spain have a mix of clothed and unclothed (textile and non-textile) users.

@Petter Until Katrina did away with the dunes....you had Gunnisson Beach (Long Island), field # 5 as a "Clothes optional beach". In New Jersey you have Sandy Hook....and I don't remember the names of other beaches in the country that are, also, nudists.

The signs are to inform the people just in case they don't want to be in a nude area. I was in Costa Natura.

@DUCHESSA Much like Spain, then. Did you know that the beach, and the area immediately inland from it, are state property, and cannot be fenced off, except for reasons of national importance? I love that law!
I've just seen from your profile that you came from Argentina. That's a country my wife and I have often said we would love to visit, as it appears to have areas similar to Kenya. (We're both Kenya bred.) ...and nowadays we could even communicate easily!

@Petter Well, are you talking about the jungle in the north of the country? The south of Argentina is cold, with mountain lakes, glaciers and a chain of mountains that runs north-south and is eternally snowed. Later I tell you about "la Pampa".

@DUCHESSA Kenya has a small amount of Jungle, but most of it is pretty arid and ideal ranching country. My grandmother owned a cattle ranch that had 1.2 miles of river running through the bottom, right hand corner of it,

@Petter Argentina is not arid at all...See "the Pampa"

@DUCHESSA I shall.

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When it comes to admiring a woman's breasts, most men are suckers!!! Lol. 🙂

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Do you know why many men reject Nudism?

I think the reasons probably vary greatly, but the majority have probably been taught to be ashamed of their own bodies, and also taught to shame other people's bodies as well, as a way of trying to make themselves feel superior.

@snytiger6 No. LOL

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I would actually like to try a nudist event at one point in my life.

Do a Google search for World Naked Bike Ride and your nearest major city and chances are you will find one. In Portland Oregon, they have over 10,000 participants each year, but I am told that Portland has one of the worlds largest. London's first ride had between two and three hundred.

Anyway, The World Naked Bike Rides are protests about the continuing dependence on fossil fuels. That message usually gets lost in the news coverage though, but that is the original purpose of the rides.

In the U.S. the largest nudist organization is AANR (American Association for Nude Recreation). However, there should be similar national organization in Canada, the UK, Australia, etc... tht organize and promote platonic nude recreational activities.

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Sure don't see why not, what ever floats your boat.

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Sure. Who cares.

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I think public nudity should be allowed at designated areas.

ebdb Level 7 Apr 9, 2018
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Why not?

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No harm really - could be interesting. Not for me though!

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Yeah, I don't need to announce to people in the checkout line that I think the cashier is hot with a raging, out in the open boner.

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It is in San Francisco, you just need your Id and a towel to sit on.

And the desire to do so . . .

They changed the laws in San Francisco a few years ago. Except for special events nudity is now illegal in most parts of San Francisco. Still legal at the nude beaches though.

I can understand why they changed the laws. A few guys were walking around with genital piercings and/or cock rings, which kind of draws attention to the genitals, and in my view, that crossed the line where instead of just the freedom to be nude, and moved towards serializing their nudity by specifically drawing attention to the genitalia.

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I don’t have an opinion about nudity being legal, but it should not be illegal, if that makes sense.

I think I get your point there.

As another respondent pointed out, each person should be free to choose. Laws agains tnudity are mor eaobut controlling people than they are abbout providing any actual benefit to society.

One of my favorite T-Shirts reads "If we were meant to be naked, we'd have been born that way."

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Yes, I think people should have the right to chose as long as they are not violating other people's rights or harrasing them.

Yes, the key here is in the freedom to choose.

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My first boyfriend and I used to hang out with friends, commune like, on the beaches of Lake Michigan, outside his cottage, on the dunes. It was the nicest thing ever to lay naked against the sand under the midday sun with the waves lapping the beach. Total bliss. So I get it.

Sounds like some fond memories there.

One of my best vacations was at a nudist retreat where I never had to bother getting dressed for nine days and nights.

@SpikeTalon 😉

@snytiger6 in the US?

@crazycurlz Yes, a nudist group rented a campground from a Jewish organization for a kidn of retreat in the Malibu (CA) hills.

@snytiger6 I honestly don't know whether you'd find me out there this days. My life took unexpected turns after those days on the dunes. If there a certain type of person, (demographic) that does nudist groups in the US? white, educated? just suggestions...I have no idea...

@crazycurlz I remember visiting Squaw Mountain Ranch, which is the oldest nudist club West of the Mississippi,. Anyway, I found it interesting that many members there were nudists when young, then they got married, moved to middle class neighborhoods and raised kids and after the kids were grown and moved out they went back to beign nudists again.

My impulse was to feel sorry for the kids who weren't raised as nudists. However, the areas where they lived and worked while raising their kids may nto have been the best circumstances to be nudists.

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