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Plagiarism, anyone?

How do you feel about posts wherein OP--with no attribution--is passing off as their own something they're swiped from someone/somewhere else?

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misternatureboy 7 Oct 1

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I looked up plagerism online and was directed to Rian Johnsons THE LAST JEDI

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Don't believe every thing you read on the internet. ~ Abraham Lincoln.

I thought that was Newton but ok.... ????

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Here:

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I like to cite my sources. Especially when it comes to quoting others.
I try not to advance other people's ideas as my own, I feel that is
intellectually dishonest.

I will acknowledge that I have not always been successful in that endeavor,
but, when it's happened, it's never been intentional.

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On Facebook, a friend would always quote authors, playwrights, or philosophers without actually saying who originally wrote or said the quote. So I would look it up and give credit to the person in the comment section. She eventually caught on and started giving credit to the authors, etc.

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I tend to reference. Force of habit.

You didn't reference where you heard, force of habit, from. ?

@Anonbene is it Shakespeare? Most things are.

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misattributing a quotation isn't plagiarism. it's stupid and can so easily be checked, but it's not plagiarism -- unless you're misattributing it to yourself of course! plagiarism is in fact a serious problem but that's not what this poll is about, right? i've written about this before and the gist of what i think is that 1. you can and should check it before you post it; it IS important, and 2. even if the quotation isn't being attributed to the pictured party, it should at least jibe with the known ideas/feelings/position of the pictured party. it should also be clear WHETHER the words are being attributed or just reflective of this ideas/feelings/positions (for example, the gene wilder as willie wonke memes and the most interesting man in the world memes -- no one thinks those guys are really saying those things, but if the memes say something that don't FIT with those images, it's not just weird, it's dishonest).

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What bugs me more is when people state nonsense as fact.

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I voted "I dislike it and don't do it," but that's not wholly accurate. I don't like it, but I can't say I never do it, though not passing it off as mine. There are times when I overlook separating a bit of text out so that either the source is cited or it at least is obvious it has come from somewhere other than me. Usually, if the site allows it, I go back and edit the post to at least let folks know it wasn't mine. Plagiarism as such (deliberate as opposed to accidental) is something I never do. It's not only lazy, it's downright dishonest.

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Can I copy that?

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Lot's of folks probably do it without ever knowing. Just regurgitation of something they've read or heard or saw on a bumper sticker.
Knowingly passing off another's work as your own is always wrong. Ask any bluesman.

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Well, as I always said, you can fool some of the people some of the time... I kid. ? Yeah it's a little sketchy, but in online forums, that's pretty much what I expect. I do tend to post a lot of snopes links when people repost disproven tropes, and that includes false attributions, but I'm not anal about it.

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I see this a lot with art. I’ve refrained from posting something because I didn’t know who created it. I’m a former adjunct Composition instructor, sovthis stuff matters greatly.

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"If I know the source great. I relish that I recognize it. If I don't know, then I don't know. I suppose the more versed you are, the more you see. Is this only about the lack of credit? Because if it's a good quote, spread the word!" ~God

Note to self: People are petty, drown them.

No offense, just my humour tonight.

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The very worst form of plagiarism is bubonic.

Once one person starts doing it, everyone around them starts doing it too.

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If I use an idea or a skill I learned from someone or somewhere else I almost always try and attribute it to them.

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Isn't that about whether or not you make money off of the retelling?

If I tell you a joke I heard did I plagiarize the guy I heard it from? Do I owe that guy credit or money for the joke he remembered hearing from someone else?
If I have a reproduction of a painting hanging on my wall do I need to tell everybody that sees it that I didn't paint that?

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Originality is a limited resource to an extent great enough that it is quite possible to mistake something as your own, plus one's memory can be miserably unreliable (For example your memories of childhood may be rose tinted to seem like you had a better childhood than you actually did). I remember one day when I was younger I honestly thought I came up with the phrase "Fuck'n A"... though mind you I was loopy as fuck on meds and with very poor ability to sleep, so of course one could expect my brainmeats to not having had been properly working then.

I'll share your "brainmeats" and quid pro quo I will lend you my "moufhole".

@misternatureboy Well, two piles of brainmeats are better than one I suppose!

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You missed an option

I never really thought about it and still won't 🙂

But you will.

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People steal quotes all the time, there's quotes you can find quoting people who were quoting someone else.

If you quote someone, credit where it's due. If you thought it up yourself and someone else said it first (probably) then honest mistake. If you're trying to pass off someone else's knowledge or wisdom as your own, you're probably a fucking idiot who's more concerned with what people think of you than who you actually are. You're doing it wrong.

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… is the highest form of flattery!

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Reading the responses, it seems to me that there are a number of different situations that people were referring to in their comments. I took the most extreme negative comment because as a retired academic I immediately thought scientific paper. Others cited song lyrics. I do think there's a world of difference between submitting a paper for publication with unattributed material and quoting someone on a website.

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Some people have enough creativity to copy/paste because they are lazy, other may post stuff because they feeling like sharing, others will add their own spin with additional remarks, other will get serious about adding and expecting everyone else to contribute....all that is fine but, plagiarism???...we are not writing a paper or developing the cure for anything, are we?

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In replying to posts, it is inevitable that people will say much the same things--I have done so, but if I see that someone else had already said something similar, I will go back to my post and edit to day, "As so and so already posted."

As an English teacher, I hate any form of plagiarism. With plagiarism checkers, students are usually caught and when they are, they get no credit for the assignment and are reported for academic dishonesty.

I was plagiarized by another instructor once. I will not go into the details, but she lost her job over the incident.

While it might not seem much on a site such as this, it is. When our so-called president is guilty of lying and claiming the accomplishments of others for his own, it does not mean that doing so elsewhere is acceptable. What's the point? If someone wants to repeat what is said, just reference the person who wrote it.

To quote Gertrude Stein, "a rose is a rose is a rose is a rose." And a liar is a liar.

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As a listener I verify and authenticate to ensure accuracy.
Repeating or sharing knowledge is fine.

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This should have been made with a picture of george washington instead lol

@Secular_Squirrel hmmmm why would Washington make more sense than Lincoln?

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