...and stupidly in love with a certain President. geez.

Maybe the human race is too stupid to survive.

And many more deny the hard choices we need to make to alleviate it.

Okay.

The ice sheets have pretty much melted.

Sea levels are rising.

Globally glaciers are disappearing.

Droughts have been on the rise.

Globally the number of people being displaced by flooding has dramatically risen.

Things in the bank account don't look real good.

@Heathenman See, I agree with the scientific consensus, but all you cited are anecdotal evidences and a case here and there.
Our brain is hard wired to use this facts to create a pattern,this is easy, makes sense, saves energy.
BUT the same time you can list this stuff, deniers can find massive amounts of counter examples, so citing factsm phenomena etc can introduce or be an example, but they do not prove, indicate or show anything.

Only statistical methods, long range measurements etc will really give an answer, and this kind of data can't be counter argued by deniers without falling into conspiracy theories (basically as they can't argue against the numbers they need to disqualify them).

I am just being overzealous on the rationality of discussion, sorry =)

@Pedrohbds

Please don't apologise. I get where you are coming from.

I guess my counter argument would be this; Numbers don't lie.

This single season is a red flag, not because it is the hottest summer in human recorded Alaskan history, but because it is the hottest summer in Alaska according to Mother Nature's recordings.

Icebergs which have taken hundreds of years to form, and many which didn't melt along with the ending of the last ice age thousands of years ago, just became liquid this summer.

If the temperatures of Alaska had been recorded from 40,000 years ago to the present day, and then graphed, this summer is the peak of the graph.

@Pedrohbds Unfortunately, the anecdotal evidence has become overwhelming. It is global and involves the polar regions and even the oceans. What does one need to see before one understand the severity of the issue. Often, by then it is too late (and I suspect it is already).

And what will you say to all the people living elsewhere, when the shit hits ? We all have a hand in what's happening all over the world, and none of us are likely to escape the consequences.

@evergreen

What I would say to them is what I would say to you.

In the U.S., citizens put together a bill which reforms the U.S. electric grid.

(Many people don't know much about the grid. In large, most of the grid is owned by energy companies. Most of the wires, in and above the ground, are situated on land which was purchased by tax payers through eminent domain. Energy can be cheap. It can also be clean, but because individual corporations own the grid, they will usually sell their electricity first before they buy others. This is why wind farms in Texas often have to give away their electricity.)

The U.S. grid sucks. I look at it and think how fucken archaic it is. Anyway, if the bill made a Unified grid, not one which is like a patched quilt of today's. The new grid would be public property. If it was formed of insulated, subterranean supplies and returns, and the bill gave presidence to those who produced clean energy, then you would watch the U.S.'s carbon footprint disappear. More over you would watch much land return to a native state.

The carbon build up likely isn't all about fossil fuels. It is more likely about how we eat. Agriculture is destroying and has destroyed much land. Yes a corn field, like any other crop extracts carbon from the air, but the amount of carbon a cornfield extracts is less than what the native landscape would extract. The exception to this would be desert farming.

If you change the grid, energy becomes cheap. Healthy in door hydroponic farming is vivable on a commercial mass production level. Farm land is no longer plowed. The native landscape returns. The environment cools.

@Heathenman Ah yes ... IF.

@evergreen

. ..WHEN?

@PBuck0145 i wish i played an instrument other than the kazoo!

Not singularly, but together we could. I’m moving closer to work so that I don’t have to drive. But yes, I think there’s an element of things being seen to be done, when in reality it’s not, just to calm people, ( which is infuriating).
I remember being in Europe in the ‘90s and people were being fined for not putting things in the right bins for recycling etc. Some people have been serious about these issues for a long time. And then there are people like Trump! Climate change, what climate change?!

@girlwithsmiles the oder of magnitude individuals can do to help is so small that lets say a whole small city works very deficient on population level, but the local factory due to breaches on legislation/saving some bucks operate a little bit below efficiency...
The output of that small town is inefficient.
If the industries do not do their part (forced by government) there is nothing we can do as individuals.

Mmm i can see a paradigm shift as people begin to take climate change more seriously. It’s not a small thing if the world changes it’s view. Some Individuals/ towns/ states/ Counties may take longer to catch up but your best chance at change is within your own circle of influence. If you feel something is worthwhile leading by example has got to be the best start. I may do less protesting and rallying as I get older, but I never give up believing that humanity has got the ability to solve problems. I’ll keep working towards that end until I die in whatever way I can.