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I grew up in a staunchly Catholic home in a Catholic neighborhood, and 8 years of parochial school. A a young lad, I was determined to read the Bible cover to cover, but needed to ask my parents t buy me one. They never read or owned one. Reading the Bible convinced me it was all bullshit, and never made it all the way through.
Interestingly, I never heard people (other than priests/pastors) quoting the Bible until I started listening to non-believer podcasts and this site.
My question is what role did the Bible play in your current state of belief?

Canndue 7 Jan 24
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My experience is similar to yours, except that I was raised to be a Moron (oops, Mormon). I was brainwashed as a child to accept everything the church taught without questioning anything. Blind faith was all they wanted. In my 20's I started to ask myself questions, and I discovered that the scriptures had many falsehoods in them. That's when I became a non-believer, and was excommunicated from the Moron church. A little more study, and I discovered that all Christianity was flawed. I am very happy to be free from such a scam. 😀

raised to be a Moron (oops, Mormon) <~~ 😂😂😂

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At mass, the priest would read one selection from a gospel and another taken from one of the epistles. I never understood what they meant. In college, I took a course on biblical exogesis, where I learned the gospels were written decades after the time period when this guy supposedly rose from the dead, and that there were a bunch more gospels that king James didn't like, so he didn't include them in the Bible. The icing on the cake was the coursework I took in philosophy. Since then, I have been heaven and hell free. 😌

Oh yeah. I forgot that people left out the parts of the Bible that didn’t suit the narrative they preferred. Another reason studying the Bible pissed me off — and turned me away from Christianity.

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My paternal grandfather was probably the most religious person in my extended family (more so than my father). He gave me an old copy of the bible when I was a kid (now that I think of it, it's interesting that my sisters never got one), and I, too, decided to try reading it cover to cover. I don't think I got past Genesis. Sometime around age 12 to 14, though, the spirit moved me to open it up at random to see what wisdom I could glean from its pages. I landed in Leviticus, on the rules about how to deal with a spot on someone's body, stuff like isolating the person and watching how the spot changed to determine whether it was "clean" or "unclean." I remember my reaction very clearly: I could not believe that something so obviously primitive and ignorant was in this holy book supposedly dictated by God, and I had to wonder if anyone else was aware of it. It was inconceivable to me that anyone could read that and still think that the book was the product of some omniscient intelligence.

I was not raised particularly religious, and I was never much of a believer, but I have always wanted to be a good person, and I did generally take it for granted that religious people had some sort of a leg up where virtue was concerned. In retrospect, I don't think I got that message from my parents; I'm sure it came partly from my grandfather and my maternal grandmother, but mostly I probably just absorbed it from 1970's American culture. I may have been a bit slower than many people here to abandon faith altogether, but finding that passage from Leviticus was a big step in that direction. A second big step was the Intro to the New Testament course I took in college. I'm still amazed to think that the professor was himself a believer, because after that course, I knew I wasn't a Christian (though I still hadn't abandoned religion altogether).

I'm sure I couldn't have maintained any sort of faith for too long, in any case, but I do wonder what might have happened if at age 13-ish I had opened the book to something like the Sermon on the Mount instead of Leviticus.

Nice story, thanks for sharing

@Canndue Thanks for asking! It's gratifying to find other people who looked at the Bible and said, basically, WTF???

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Reading the bible cover to cover is what made me stop being a believer.

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I studied the bible and read it cover to cover. If you study the bible as we know it today, Constantine and how and when the books were chosen, etc. the only conclusion is that it is all bullshit. Your beloved Jesus was not even a Christian.

Isn’t that like saying trump isn’t a trumpist? 😂

@Canndue
Jesus was a jew.

@xenoview I know

@xenoview Who cares what he was alleged to have been. What unequivocal facts exist to prove that he even existed?/ And the Virgin Mary??? PLEASE. and crucifiction(sp) and resurrection?? PULLEEASE. Why does anyone care?

@Healthydoc70 Jesus died quickly and had a bad weekend. 🙂

OF course Jesus wasn't a Christian. The word "Christian" means one who believes Christ (Jesus) was the Son of God.

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I read a lot as a young person and had lengthy discussions about how do you explain...

I read Greek, Roman, and Norse mythology as well as the Christian mythology and rabbinical texts. There was so much that was lifted from the others, that they all blended together. The trinity was a way to differentiate the christians from the others in that while all other mythologies had the gods having human children (demigods), the Christians claimed their demigod was a full god (3rd century). When you ask the difference between Hercules (the most famous demigod) and Jesus the answers were basically bullshit.

I was raised to question everything and to research and develop my opinion based on the facts. That is how I am where I am today.

I have read the Christian bible, the Koran. The book of Mormon, The book of Krisna, the Satanic Bible and many other books based on faith mythology so I'd like to think mine was an informed choice.

Only read a little of the Koran, that even seemed worse

@Canndue Most all the "holy" books are tough reads. The absolute worst is the book of Mormon. It is written in the style of King James version, but is tedious at best.

@glennlab amazing similarities though? Suspect a lot of plagiarism

@glennlab Agree with you on that one, IF you want to read something that IS, beyond even a shadow of a doubt, complete, utter, total and UNADULTERATED propaganda Bullshit then the Book of Morons ( Mormons) is most DEFINTELY the one to read.
When you read it, the Book of Morons places, imo, Joseph Smith on a equal par with L. Ron. Hubbard, Jeebus Chrust MAGICALLY travels to America, converts the Indigenous Natives to Chrustianity at a time when it was commonly thought AND believed that British Isles WERE the very edge of the world to the west of Europe and China was eastern edge of the world AND it even names America long before it was actually found, by sheer accident, and named anyway.

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After 9/11, so many Christians I knew (almost all of them) were very gung-ho about bombing Iraq and Afghanistan back to the stone age. Because I was reading leftist websites that pointed out that Iraq and Afghanistan had nothing to do with 9/11, I was troubled by their stance (and in some cases blatant racism) and thought I'd sway my fellow Christian by pointing out all the Bible verses talking about peace. I open it up and find "kill all the men, non-virgin women and children," "dash the baby's head against the rocks", "you must even kill the livestock" etc. I'd read all that many times before but never really thought about it up till that time.

I thought, there must be some hidden meaning there I'm not getting, this can't be right, I started looking at what biblical scholars had to say about this and that ... it all went downhill from there.

you forgot the mass raping of the virgin women happily entered into by none other than Moses himself.

Reminds me of the part that says...’if your children misbehave take them to the edge of town and stone them!’ (May not be the exact words.)

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Also raised catholic. Forced to go through the requisite rituals. Got as far as being confirmed.
It all felt so false to me, even when I was little. The older I got, the more I read, and I read everything I could get my hands on.
I've always been really interested in ancient history. Especially pre-christian history. The more I learned about that time, the more absurd the concept of "one true god" became to me.

Reading the bible, both old and new testaments, sealed the deal.
What an unbelievable collection of nonsense.

The more comments I read here, the more memories come back.

I was confirmed in 7th grade. I just now remember questioning whether I wanted to be confirmed. I remember having doubts. I don’t recall what prompted those doubts ... only that I wasn’t sure I was a believer and should commit to the faith.

I would up getting confirmed to keep things calm in the family, and I got over those doubts until I was 16. I remember at 15/16 considering becoming a missionary. I was fully brainwashed!

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My father insisted that both my sister and i will read the Bible , and also we took World religions for 2 semesters while in college .
At that time I was in fine arts university and my sister in med school . We grew up without religion , he was an atheist and so and we , but he wanted us to come to r own thoughts and conclusions after we hear what religions have to say .
We grew up in Catholic environment in Italy , where every day is a good day to celebrate a saint , a martyr , something 😂 Our household wasn’t acceptable by anyone , and we couldn’t care less 😂🙌
Years later , when I came to USA , I took religions of the world again at university ( I figured easy grade for me ), and curious to see if any different approach . Nope . Same shit . Hilarious .
Today , if I find bibles on hotel rooms when I travel , I draw all type of pics on it , and some I used to take w me in my bag for fireplace purpose . Not anymore , gas fireplace , lazy 🙌
I think the Bible is almost funny if it wasn’t that sad .
It smells abuse ,pedophilia , fear , and cruelty , emotional abuse , and worse , a false belief that loyalty to Jesus will reward u w eternity / peace / success , and u ll be the good guy all way there .
Well . I got a problem with all of the above . And I make sure at every opportunity I get around youth , to talk about it . It makes me happy 🙌

You summed it up nicely, thanks😎

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The Bible is a prop used by those wishing to control the behavior and beliefs of others

This will sum it up!!

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It seemed to me that you had the right to kill on the one hand and on the other, you could go to hell for killing! The hardest part that i never understood was...‘to fear god was to love god!’ When I fear something I don’t want anything to do with it! Then I found out that the word ‘fear’ meant love! Meanings of words were turned upside down!
And the last part was the hardest for me...’if you believe on the name of Jesus you will be saved’ and ‘washed in his blood’ made no sense...I did however believe that Jesus was trying to teach people to rise to their higher nature. But, I never learned that from the Baptist religion as a child, that came later with my own study.

That fear god love god baffled me as well. When I was young, mass was only in Latin. I remember it sounding magical. Then as they introduced English, the words sounded like bs. And originally they called it the Holy Ghost...everyone knew ghosts weren’t real.

@Canndue it really is strange how people ‘come to know things!’ How sad indeed...it would be for me, if I was stuck with the kind of thinking of some people, that I know well! Those that think I am headed to hell, for the way I think! In the afterlife ofcourse! ...just for what I believe, not my character...let that sink in.

One of the biggest Contradictions in the Bible

Moses goes to Mt. Sinai to get the Ten Commandments and one of the commandments is Thou shalt not kill

Moses comes down from Mt. Sinai and gets mad at the people and orders 3000 to be killed

@Freedompath how liberating to realize there is no hell, nothing to fear, acting as a descent person for the sake of being descent, not for fear of punishment

@abyers1970 and all this is fed to an innocent child...no wonder the Evangelicals have twisted thinking! By age nine, I knew something was wrong with this Bible stuff. And...I can remember the clever little stories that were told to piece the puzzle together...but the real picture never took on me! Lol

@Freedompath I can remember being scared to death as a child listening to preachers talk about death, going to hell and that we are all sinners. Plus i went to a Primitive baptist old time church where they really get to going on and on. I actually went to one church where they would drag people up to the front of the church.

@abyers1970 I have been to those places myself! I sure hope they all got out alive...in the end! Ha ha ha

@abyers1970 you are right up in my neck of the woods! I spent the last 25 years in Clarkrsville Cornelia and Cleveland. I left from Lula at 15 and moved to Atlanta...then many different places until I thought I could come back to the area! Didn’t work!

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I was raised Catholic and blindly accepted it all — hook, line, and sinker — until I was 16.

In my Catholic high school, we delved into the Bible in religion class. I had never read it before — and I was shocked about the inconsistencies, and to learn that they voted on Jesus’s divinity in the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD. Basically saying he was divine would mean more believers, ergo more people making donations to their church.

I felt utterly betrayed and never believed in this BS again.

And I commend you for that!!

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Evangelicals are so oppressive I felt enlightened when I went to a catholic college. That should give people a hint how bad fundies are 😟

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I red it cover to cover, also red the Quaran too, found all of it just a lot of nonsense.

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I have read the bible lots more as a non believer then I ever did when I was a believer (granted I was quite young then). I read it to check out the complete passage when believers quote a partial passage. Often the total passage has a different meaning then the portion that is partly quoted.

Context is key

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I read the whole thing through, probably four times (or many more, if we also count reading along as it was read aloud on Sunday). I had a cute laminated bookmark that assigned two readings per night, jumping around from old testament to new and back again, so as to tie the two together. Or maybe to reduce boredom. Anyway, it was designed to cover the entire Bible in one year. I didn't always meet the deadline.

This reading did not, at the time, make me a skeptic. Sure, I had questions - but I was usually satisfied with the answers I got.

Disbelief came later - quite suddenly, I saw it all as the fairy tale that it is. And THIS is when all that reading came in handy. So many parts of that book can be contradicted by other parts...or by observed reality.

Your final paragraph underscores the cognitive failure of believers.

@anglophone It is also an admission of my own cognitive failure (though to be fair, I was just a kid...)

@AmyTheBruce Children tend to be credible creatures - the gaining of knowledge from adults is a key part of human society. I also believed what I was told at that age. It was only at age 30 that I finally realised I had been told pure lies.

@anglophone assuming they read it

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This is the thing that boggles my mind. Say god created us and is omnipotent and knows the future.. Why did he create us with desire to sin? Why would god then punish us for the sinful nature he created us with. Why would god even create a place so horrible for sinners that they are tortured for eternity?

How can god say he loves us and at the same time punish us with such cruelty. I would never even think of doing that to my kids. I could never imagine punishing my kids with horrible torture for eternity for disobeying me.

Mysterious ways I guess.

What I could never figure out is if god is omnipotent....why doesn’t he snap the devil out of existence? Why does he need angels?

wadr you are reading from your pov, and a diff pov is needed prolly

"Why did he create us with desire to sin?"
Who told you that you were naked?

:crickets
ok

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One the Prime Rules of Religions such as Chrustianity is,
" Thou shalt NOT read the Holy Bible for thineself, for it may well cause thee to think for thyself and thus thou shall be seen in the eyes of God as a sinner of the worst kind."
Imo, Religions depend and rely upon the "Mushroom concept," i.e. "keep them in the dark and feed them on bullshit."

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The claims of Genesis 1:1 to 2:1 are manifestly ridiculous thereby invalidating everything that follows. The same goes for the Torah.

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Pretty much the same as you. The more you actually read it and analyzed it, the less plausible it all seemed.

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Read the first five books . Lots of , " begatting ," going on . A man born and raised as a Pagan , fought and won many battles and wanted to be crowned Emperor , but the Pope refused to recognize a Pagan and told him he had to convert in order to become Emperor . This Pagan , born and raised , is the same man who chose which books made it into the current day Bible , excluding , among other things the information about Lillith .

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I actually made it through reading the bible from cover to cover. However at the same time we were studying Greek mythology in high school, and it became petty obvious that the bible and Greek myths were generated in much the same way. So, it became obvious to me that it was all just made up stories.

hmm, the point of that being?

@bbyrd009 I guess the point is that reading the bible made me an atheist.

@snytiger6 ah i meant "why make up stories?" You don't think they have any point?

@bbyrd009 Maybe for the culture of desert goat herders that existed 3000 years ago. Trying to filter those ancient stories through the lens of modern culture totally distorts whatever their original purposes might have been.

I will grudgingly admit that at that time 2000-3000 years ago they might have had some very little benefit at that time. However most of the laws, rules and norms are not really well suited for modern times. Their time and purpose has passed.

@snytiger6 hmm. well, we still have governments--something that must be abolished, according to the Bible--so i dunno, but may i suggest that the Bible has very little or nothing to do with what we have been told it does, and that those laws and rules are likely allegory for something else anyway, written in such a way as to hide wisdom from the wise

@bbyrd009 As the cultures changed the allegories were no longer understood in the context of the changed culture.

@snytiger6 well i gotta agree that they have become more difficult to get, some of them, but there is also that the more things change, the more they stay the same? Most of the concepts are timeless i think, eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge particularly so

iow--for an example--what if As the cultures changed the allegories were still completely understood in the context of the changed culture, up to the point that those in the culture became so sure of themselves that the allegories could no longer be understood?

would you say that that is possible?

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Immaculately seminal.

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I grew up Catholic too. The Catholic church doesn’t focus on the Bible as much as protestant denominations because the Catholic Church is largely based on the “Tradition.” And the church for a long time actively discouraged lay people from reading the Bible without a priest telling them what to think about it. For all I know, it still discourages it. I remember when I was a freshman at my Catholic high school, my theology teacher was talking about how inadequate the nuns had been at her high school. She said something like: If you’re reading the Bible, it’s best to do it under the guidance of someone who knows it; lord knows those nuns didn’t.

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I liked the story of Jarius's daughter, but found most of the rest very boring indeed. I think I would have become a non-believer anyway, Bible or no Bible.

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