@powder
bullshit comes in all flavors

there is no getting even

@powder
People also believe that people with darker skin are inferior. Should we be fine with that belief?
People believe Jews should be gassed to death. That something we should just be fine with as an equally valid but different opinion?
As for vaccines, should we let children go unvaccinated for measles and polio because their parents believe the vaccines are less effective than herd immunity or large amounts of organic vegetables in the diet?
Beliefs are not equal to facts.
As for mandating the vaccine, I'm fine with it being personal choice now that the data is showing 97+% of people dying are anti-vaxxers. Let them all die now so they won't be as harmful to society at large when the next pandemic starts.

@powder If you think wanting someone dead for an arbitrary reason like heritage or skin color is the same thing as wanting people to die for the very specific non-arbitrary reason that their idiocy is going to exacerbate death for many more people in the future then you have such poor reasoning skills I couldn't possibly help you.

@powder Claiming you want no one to die while being an anti-vaxxer is like claiming you want to protect children while donating money to the Catholic archdiocese who use funds to allow pedophile priests escape prosecution. Actions speak louder than words and your actions say you want a lot of people to die of covid and more to die of the next pandemic disease.

@powder Whether or not you want to or technically can call it a vaccine is irrelevant. The facts are these:
-the shot reduces the likelihood that one will have severe symptoms

• the shot reduces how sick you get if you even get infected, thus, it likely reduces the viral load you shed thereby reducing how sick people get that catch it from you
• the people that can get vaccinated and don't are making it way worse for those that can't but want to which shows what selfish cunts those people are
• all anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers are dirty stupid cunts, not necessarily everyone that is unvaccinated
• it is sad when someone who is doing everything they can to protect themselves and others dies, but luckily over 97% of those needing hospitalization are unvaccinated and an even higher percentage of those dying are unvaccinated
• I will always cheer on the death of dirty stupid cunts

@powder I'm not "fine" with a loose definition of vaccine, I'm saying it doesn't matter what you call it so the definition is irrelevant.
There are plenty of people who got covid twice, so you thinking you had a "robust enough" reaction means fuck all.
As for masks, hygiene, and distancing, you dumb fuckin' anti-vaxxers wouldn't even do that when it was asked of you, so you don't get to claim that's a possible solution now.
You and the rest of the anti-vaxxers are dumb fucking cunts and I hope you all get covid and die so you can't cause problems like this next pandemic.

@powder I'm 100% not saying it should be forced on people (remember, I love that anti-vaxxers are dropping like flies and want to ride this trend to thin the herd of as many of them as possible), but businesses denying use of their services to the unvaccinated is completely in their purview. Schools mandating masks and vaccines, when available, to children? I'm behind that too.
One's belief that they had covid (which they may not have) and that their immune response is sufficient (which it may not be, plenty of people have gotten it again) is not good enough. And the numbers don't support that either. If 97% of people that need hospitalization and die are unvaccinated, then the vaccine is obviously more beneficial than whatever natural immunities and prevention methods people think will work. We know that people can get infected after the shot and after having had covid, yet the shot keeps people alive and home at an astronomically higher rate.

I realize you're not in the U.S. and each county is responding to the pandemic in their own way but the U.S. Center for Disease Control tracks Covid cases and deaths.

[covid.cdc.gov]

Here in the U.S. the number of Covid cases and deaths dropped rapidly after the vaccine was made available in March and dropped to a small fraction by June. There has been a drastic increase in cases in July and August due to the spread of the Delta variant and the majority of cases are among those who are unvaccinated. The more unvaccinated people that get and spread Covid the greater the opportunity for Covid to further mutate.

This is not a belief or my opinion. This is fact.

Here in the U.S. you have to have a wide number of vaccines to attend public school or college and its been this way for decades. Children here know nothing of polio, mumps, rubella, measles, small pox, chicken pox, diptheria, and several others. No one complains about these diseases being gone. We could do the same with Covid if everyone did their part. But... you know... that's asking too much.

@powder @Charles1971 Trivializing the Holocaust by comparing trying to eradicate a pandemic from the planet is hateful ignorance. You both would've been fucking Nazis back in the 1940s.

@barjoe Ease up there Joe. I was being sarcastic and trying to be satirical. I thought it was obvious in the wording. Saying that I would have been a Nazi in the 40's solely based on my comment is ridiculous and short-sighted of you.

Unless you literally meant that I would be fucking Nazis. That would be highly unlikely unless I had been born in Germany quite a few years prior to 1940... in which case we can't be sure of who I'd be fucking (if anyone) and if those who I might fuck would disclose to me their association with the Nazi party. But that's really going off on a rather silly tangent don't you think?

@Charles1971 I laughed aloud to this comment because I was thinking the exact same thing when I read "fucking Nazis".