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Do u think Christianity is bad ? What's your opinion on it

Ya know I have a very hard time respected the religion . We as athiest or agnostics know it's bogus . Its a book that basically tells u what to believe is right or wrong and if u don't agree then your wrong and the co sequences are going to hell . The Bible itself is poorly written . One chapter gods this nice loveable person then the next he's growing babies and slaying baby's and cursing them ! So many people hate gays and lesbian people becus of the Bible . Whether I think it's nasty or not doesn't mean its wrong . I also hate the disrespect I get when I tel people I'm athiest. Why can't we think for ourselves ?

DavidDeLa89 6 May 3

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Christianity has one redeeming feature. Every 25th of December, the Christians are relatively nice to each other!

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I think most of Christianity's values are terrible: blind obedience, subjugation of women and children, exploitation of the Earth, aggressive proselytizing and eradication of non-believers. The world would be much better off without it. Bertrand Russell's "Why I am Not a Christian" makes the case very well.

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I think all religion has the potential to cause more harm than good.

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I love this quote:

Me too. He was a great man. Did you know they put him in the Bastille.

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Christianity, and all other religions, are poisonous. They are a collective mysticism that damages people's minds, especially children. It disgusts me.

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Do I think Christianity is bad.

Yes because Christianity is a religion and the foundation of religions are the dishonest "faith" (belief without evidence peddled as facts) (facts are supported by testable evidence) as an honest methodology to find "Truth". This is not only dishonest but it obfuscates the beauty of facts and reason over superstition. The outcome of religion is a mind programmed to accept assertions without evidence reducing the necessary critical thinking skills of skepticism to accurately assess the world.

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My father's mother was Christian and she was the sweetest, most generous, helpful, loving person you can imagine. She took her faith seriously. Now..did she ever question the really AWFUL stuff her bible said? I don't know. But I know that the parts she loved were "good" for HER (and, therefore, the people around her.) I don't think that a THING can every be totally ''bad'' or even ''good.'' It's the uses applied with that thing that have positives or negatives.

It not the religion that made her sweet and nice.
I can't remember who said this but
Good people will be good but it take something like religion to make a good person do evil..

@Rdurham I understand that. I also know that her religion sustained her during times of trouble and guided her when she looked for answers. As much as I dislike theism...I know it exists IN PART because of people like my grandmother.

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All religion is bad.

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With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion.
Steven Weinberg
Aplys to them all even the ones we are yet to make up

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In my honest opinion, I think that at this stage of human development, Christinanity and all religions are a blight upon our intellectual integrity.

Athos Level 5 May 4, 2018

They always were.

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Trillions of dollars are sucked out of our economy and wasted on building and maintaining churches.

With all due respect this is not a particularly good argument. Too many resources are wasted on useless skyscrapers, aircraft carriers, tanks, ammunitions etc. Some men would argue that too many resources are wasted on women's handbags and they might counter that too much is wasted on cars.

@PontifexMarximus Well, any waste of resources is bad, and in this particular topic about the stupid Christian, it fit the discussion.

@TuyTran888 But an argument should be more specific!

@PontifexMarximus yes, He is talking about the waste of resource in the stupid Christian churches, that is specific. but then you are the one bring other stuff in and try to delude the issue that he talking about.

@PontifexMarximus He was on the issue of the subject of Christian, you are the one that brought in unrelated thing such as skyscraper and tank, and weapon.

@TuyTran888 He talks about economics: "Sucked out of our economy and wasted on building and maintaining churches."

@PontifexMarximus He talk about economic related to Christian. Do you even get that? your skyscraper and tank and weapon did you show the relation to Christain?

Sure...most of our wars have been religious wars.@TuyTran888

@nicknotes I was asking at PontifexMarximus, Let him think about it. people really need to learn to think better. We can not just think for them, we can help them to improve their thinking.

@nicknotes exactly ... There exists a rather unholy alliance between religions and the urge to fight wars.

@TuyTran888 Pontifex's comments make sense in that "money sucked out of the economy" is the TAX-FREE money spent on these things.

@LucyLoohoo The question I asked was for Pontifex. I was checking to see if he even know what he is saying. I am not as stupid as you think.

@TuyTran888 the economic argument is, in my opinion, not the best against Christianity because it is non specific.

I disagree.....Christians are parasites in our economy. Churches don't pay taxes and they take money from poor and middle class people and provide no benefit. @PontifexMarximus

@nicknotes couldn't agree more with you ... However, this is an argument that can apply to all sorts of human pursuits: wars, sports, stupid tv-shows and the list goes on. The entire economy is a waste ... Trillions of dollars are wasted to make a few people rich.

@PontifexMarximus Do you see this is the title of the post. "Do u think Christianity is bad ? What's your opinion on it" Stay within the context. stop bullshiting.

@TuyTran888 don't be insulting because you don't understand my point.

@TuyTran888 I appear to be rather arrogant nd self righteous.. You do not understand that unspecific arguments lack impact. Furthermore you don't seem the seem the connection between religous institutions and war.

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I really think all religions are bad without exception. they seem to suit men much more than women too.

I think the Pastafarians are ok ... Though only their vegetarian chapter .. The noodle monster with Brussel sprouts instead os meat balls.

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I consider religion and superstition the worst thing that ever happened to humanity. It's the cause of suffering, war, prejudice, racism, homophobia, sexism, and brutality to children. Many others, I could go on and on. How about slavery? The movie "12 Years a Slave" brings out beautifully how the plantation masters felt morally superior to their slaves because the Bible condones it.

If only it was the only cause of those things. Then we could get rid of it and live in a utopia.

@indirect76 Of course it's not the only cause but in most a major cause. Take homophobia for example. It's totally natural in nature as only a small percentage of mammals get to reproduce. The Bible calls it "abomination" cause gays make a convenience scapegoat.

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Bad, yes, put to evil purposes, yes.
A lie is bad,
lies built on lies built on lies and you have the catholic church

There a lot more bad things from just the Christian it self doing to humankind that almost like no one can describe it all in one lifetime. The difficulty here is that we all need to acknowledge how bad such belief system would do to humankind. That how we can live a better life, and not just ignore them because they will harm you whether you even more if you are not aware of it.

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Christainity destroys more lives than it helps. It was destroying my live, because of my sexaulity. There is nothing wrong for a man to be attract to another man. I'm glad I'm an atheist now. I don't feel ashamed of who I am now. I'm to be free of the religious bs. I wish the world would see the light like we have.

P.A.T.C.H. a group on this site if you hate Christianity!

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Yes, it's bad. All major religions are bad, except Buddhism; that one doesn't cause harm; at least it doesn't seem like it would.

oh wow! the double semi-colon! I think I'll leave it.

Buddhists in SE ASIA eagerly fought resistance wars against China France and USA not following the pacifism of monks burning themselves with gasoline or the Dali Lama. ....chanting mindlessly NA MYU YO HO REN GYE KYO fast is not much different than Catholic MASS against women's right to choose

Buddhism is stupid because it is a waste of time and effort! Sitting under a tree until reaching enlightenment is insanity! Buddhism teaches people to spend countless hour in meditation to better themselves when getting up and actually taking the steps to better yourself would make much more sense!

buddhism is a philosophy that followers turned into a religion. there are no gods to bow to or fear. its more about being a good person, doing as little harm as possible and not being an extremist about anything.
-im not a buddhist.
-someone will probable tell me im wrong.
-have a nice day.

@h_seldon Yeah, that. ?

@PalacinkyPDX Ethic cleansing is horrific. In my mind, they're not true Buddhists, so in that regard, it's bad; similar to bigoted hateful people who call themselves Christians, but don't bother practicing the teachings. That said, I don't really know that much about it. I read an Alan Watts book once, and liked his take on it.

I am very fortunate to live in a place where I don't have to pretend to be man just to survive.

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The hate they spread around the world is bad.

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Yes, bad, evil, invented to manipulate people and suppress women

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I think if a person is truly trying to follow the tenets of the New Testament, such as the beatitudes, that person is bound to be a boon to humanity. But honestly, those people are rare. Mostly fear is what is preached and absorbed resulting in hate.

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Why can't we think for ourselves ? Because most of us are cowards who feel better outsourcing our opinions than speaking our own words based on our own reasoning.
'It's not me saying gays deserve to die. GOD COMMANDS IT. WHO ARE YOU TO QUESTION GOD?'
Or something along those brown lines of bullshit.

The most generous thing one can say about Christianity. It gives bad reasons to be good with a whole heap of baggage that ruins lives attached to it. The really pathetic part is the "good" part of the scripture is just common sense.
All Christianity can do is give you a really bad reason to be sensible. Don't murder people. Don't steal. Help the poor. etc. etc.
So banal.

That's mostly self-realized philosophy. "Do unto others"

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Christianity, and pretty much all religions, is about controlling people. In order for the few to control the many you need some sort of superstition to exert oversite. Then you call all good fortune a reward and and all bad fortune punishment. It is not evil so much as primitive by nature, and this very nature has slowed progress by centuries.

Evil comes into play when you have it justify actions that are immoral while claiming to be the only true measure of morality. Slavery, misogyny, genocide, infanticide, subjugation, and much more are accepted if not encouraged while submission to authority is the underlying principle throughout. To be clear the evil requires human action as a result of interpretation. Otherwise it is no more evil than Greek Mythology or being a hardcore football fan.

Two quotes that help explain:

“With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion.”
― Steven Weinberg

“To be fair, much of the Bible is not systematically evil but just plain weird, as you would expect of a chaotically cobbled-together anthology of disjointed documents, composed, revised, translated, distorted and 'improved' by hundreds of anonymous authors, editors and copyists, unknown to us and mostly unknown to each other, spanning nine centuries”
― Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion

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In and of itself, pre-diddled with... I think it might have been very good. Unfortunately the ruling class seems to like twisting anything and everything to their own desires to control the masses and keep their power. People make and break religions.

Throw in a lack of understanding of various histories, language barriers and bad translations, and basic reading comprehension issues... most religions don't really stand much of a chance.

AmyLF Level 7 June 19, 2018
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Christianity has ended up as total hypocrisy. thou shall not kill..., do unto others... , love thy neighbor as thyself... etc.

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I think it and all religions are false and we are never served by believing lies.

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Christianity is the stupidest religion of them all. It is herd mentality at its best. They even call their followers sheep,and the flock! Their leaders are called shepherds! These people say only the poor can enter heaven and they live in $200,000 houses. They point out everyone else's so called sins and claim to be saved by grace when they sin. They blame a mystical creature called Satan for everything bad, and claim that their god-man Jesus floated into outer space on a cloud in front of hundreds of people after he physically rose from the dead! WTF

All religions are equally insane and have their violent sub cults of the many cults

If you like this quote join us on P.A.T.C.H. People Against The Christian Hypocrites a group on this site! You can find it by going to my home page and looking at my groups.

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A belief or unbelief system isn't bad...it's the people using that belief or unbelief system to justify their bad actions that make it bad.

Or to paraphrase the popular gun slogan: christianity doesn't kill people... people kill people.

Exactly what you said.

CHRISTIANITY , says to pick up your cross and die with me, JESUS! Jesus calls his followers to be martyrs and many people have done it, including Jesus. Therefore Christianity does kill people by telling them to kill themselves. That is a bad belief system, and the people who really believe it are usually just puppets anyway so they may not be bad at all. Their just brain washed. I think you may have this statement a bit backwards.

@IpraiseMYSELF
" says to pick up your cross and die with me, [...]Therefore Christianity does kill people by telling them to kill themselves. "

I'm not aware of any biblical scripture or church order that mandates people kill themselves. People that dies in defense of their belief, like martyrs, are honored by those that believe much the same way a person that dies in defense of their countries, like soldiers, are honored but those of that country. At not time are the martyrs or soldiers being told to kill themselves though.

@TheMiddleWay That is exactly what Jesus says in the bible! The church is not preaching it because they do not want anyone to know that Jesus was a madman. The church likes to only preach on things that bring in money or feel good stories! You claim there is no scripture that says to pick up your cross and die with me, let me educate you. Mathew 10: 38-39, this is Jesus himself speaking and it clearly states, "and whoever does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it." Mathew 16: 24-25, again Jesus and his wonderful message states," If anyone would come after me, let him DENY HIMSELF AND TAKE UP HIS CROSS AND FOLLOW ME. For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses HIS LIFE for my sake will find it." Here are some more, MK 8:34; MK 10:21; LK 9:23; LK 14:27. Please do not try and compare military heroes with cowards of religious persecution because that is ridiculous and you are insulting our military heroes by comparing them to people who believe in fairy tales in fantasy world.

@IpraiseMYSELF
"Losing your life for my sake" is exactly like losing your life for the sake of your country.
Witness this quote:
" I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country" Nathan Hale

In neither the bible or the Hale quote are people being asked to kill themselves

Of course if you want to interpret that the bible quote means that christians should kill themselves then you should also interpret Nathan Hale's quote to mean that all good patriotic americans should kill themselves.

Clearly if the later is ridicoulous, then so is the former.

Finally, your interpretation of the bible is not only wrong, it's one that no Christian abides by given that killing yourself is a sin according to christianity... so clearly your interpretation is made up and not something christians factually believe in.

But hey, that's the beauty of being a zealot: you get to interpret scripture however you want to support whatever view you want... just like you are doing. 😉

@TheMiddleWay You are taking one quote from one man who does not represent the whole military nor the belief of the military forces. I am quoting the one man who Christians claim is god and who they claim represents the LIVING WORD! By your last post it is clear that you support Christianity or maybe you are a Christian! But you are right when you say that no Christian abides by Jesus' words, I would agree with that because if they did they would all be dead like Jesus is. Jesus clearly promotes his followers to die for their religion and the military is not asking that at all but only asking soldiers to fight for what is right and just in the world. I have never heard a recruiter for the U.S. military go to a Highschool and tell students to come and die for their country, even though unfortunately that does happen sometimes. Instead they tell them about free college or traveling the world or the great benefits they will receive. Furthermore, you are trying to compare apples and oranges because dying for the freedoms this country stands for is an honorable thing, but dying for a religion that has caused more wars and hate across the planet is not honorable at all! Finally, the Hale quote does not say if you do not die for your country then you will be kicked out of the country or considered a traitor, and Jesus clearly states that if you do not die for Christianity then you are " not worthy to follow me." In other words if you do not die for Christianity then you are not a Christian at all. Jesus says, " no one takes my life from me, I give it up freely!" Therefore if Christianity claims that killing yourself is a sin then you have just proven that Jesus sinned. If Jesus sins then he can not be the Jewish Christ because he must be a blemish less sacrifice. How can Jesus say "I give up my life freely," (suicide) and then claim that it is a sin? Seems to me that you do not know your bible as well as you think you do. That is typical of most Christians though! Do not worry because I forgive you of your ignorance and I will not throw you in a place called hell like Jesus would just because you are wrong. LOL

@IpraiseMYSELF
" You are taking one quote from one man who does not represent the whole military nor the belief of the military forces. I am quoting the one man who Christians claim is god and who they claim represents the LIVING WORD!"

They are both representative of their believers, mine of the patriots; yours of the christians

"By your last post it is clear that you support Christianity or maybe you are a Christian! "

Your poor sense of clarity is again on display: as you can see by my bios and extensive posts on this site, I'm agnostic and am not a Christian nor do I support Christianity.

" I have never heard a recruiter for the U.S. military go to a Highschool and tell students to come and die for their country, "

I have never heard of a priest doing that either.

"Furthermore, you are trying to compare apples and oranges because dying for the freedoms this country stands for is an honorable thing, but dying for a religion that has caused more wars and hate across the planet is not honorable at all! "

It is dying for freedoms of the country is honorable only to those whose freedoms they enjoy. It is not honorable to the enemy nor to people whose freedoms aren't enjoyed This is the reason Kirkpatrick kneeled... because those deaths don't represent his freedoms

"and Jesus clearly states that if you do not die for Christianity then you are " not worthy to follow me." In other words if you do not die for Christianity then you are not a Christian at all. "
That "clarity" is only your interpretation, not how Christians promote themselves. As I've said, I've never heard any priest or publication or anything from the Christian church demanding that it's followers kill themselves in the name of jesus anymore than the military asks that it's followers kill themselves in the name of Country.

"Therefore if Christianity claims that killing yourself is a sin then you have just proven that Jesus sinned."

You have a pretty poor understanding of the bible if you think the jews and romans that actually killed jesus constitutes jesus killing himself. I point out that you are again merely trying to twist the stories to fit your narrative and it's not how the Christians themselves teach or follow. It's the logical fallacy of "false equivalence" that you are using in case you want to follow up on why your tactics are fallacious.

It's okay though: zealots are the same no matter their zealotry and as you demonstrate will erroneously interpret the bible to fit their needs and "put words in the mouth" of those they wish to demonize. Good luck on your proselytizing campaign: whiile it will fail, I hope it will teach you a lot about yourself and others.

@TheMiddleWay Read the bible first then comment on something you know! I am quoting the bible and you are repeating the same bs over and over again because of your lack of understanding! Jesus claims no one can take his life but him! FACT!!!!!!! The bible even says Jesus could have called on the angels to destroy the romans and Jews at any time! So, if Jesus knows he can stop his own death and decides not to then that is suicide. I do not see anyone in the military knowing they can stop their own death and saying " no, I want to die." I do not believe in demons or demonizing anyone. LOL. Your middle way is an uneducated blunder of confused thoughts!

@IpraiseMYSELF
"Read the bible first then comment on something you know! I"
I have and I am

"So, if Jesus knows he can stop his own death and decides not to then that is suicide."
Only you promote that interpretation that sacrifice is suicide. Nobody else does, not Christians, not anyone.. Thus it is a personal reading of that passage and not one that is endorsed nor followed by Christians.

"I do not see anyone in the military knowing they can stop their own death and saying " no, I want to die.""
They can all run away. They can all quit. They can surrender. There are many ways to not die in the military and there is no one holding a gun to a military persons head saying "you have to die". Thus your notion of Jesus as suicide instead of sacrifice is as erroneous as a notion of a military man committing suicide instead of sacrifice.

"Your middle way is an uneducated blunder of confused thoughts!"
Considering your views are idiosyncratic and not endorsed by christians, I'm confident that it is your zealotry against Christians that confuses you, not I.

@TheMiddleWay You are a Christian in disguise and your such a coward your willing to deny your savior in order to get on an atheist site and try to stir up shit! You will never convince me that Jesus was anything other than a liar and I am not the only one who feels this way, in fact, there is a group of us all sitting here laughing at everything you say! You need to do more than just read the bible, you need to understand what it is preaching, who it is hurting, and why it is the worst book ever created in the history of humanity. Jesus is a coward just like you and that is why you love his lies soooo much that you defend his hate! I think we will refer to you as "the Jesus puppet" from now on! LOL

@IpraiseMYSELF
" You are a Christian in disguise and your such a coward your willing to deny your savior in order to get on an atheist site and try to stir up shit! "

Nope. As you can see by my several posts that earned my level 8 and my bio, I'm not a christian. But then again, you already demonstrate that you will interpret things to support your anti-christian zealotry so it makes sense that the best way to dismiss the facts I present is to label me a Christian to justify your zealotry against me instead of addressing the facts.. So I'm not surprised that you misread the evidence the way you misread the bible and christians as you are no less a zealot than those that misread the q'uaran to justify bombings or misread the bible to justify slavery... you are exactly like them, just different ideology.

"You will never convince me that Jesus was anything other than a liar and I am not the only one who feels this way,"
This is never my intent. My only intent is that Christians don't promote killing themselves. You are assigning a view point to me that I don't hold in an effort to dismiss the original viewpoint. This would add "moving the goalpost" or perhaps "strawman" to your list of logical fallacies. Please look them up to see how your logic continues to be fallacious.

"in fact, there is a group of us all sitting here laughing at everything you say! "
Now we add the "bandwagon" fallacy, compounded by the fact that I don't see anyone on this site supporting your views and you could be inventing these "group of us" just to make it seem like you have support. I don't know if you do have a bunch of friends reading this with you but if you do, why don't you invite them to join the group and speak for themselves instead of you speaking for them? Otherwise your claim that "there is a group of you" is unprovable and frankly smells of desperation trying to invoke "bandwagon fallacy" to try to bolster your failed arguement.

"I think we will refer to you as "the Jesus puppet" from now on! "
Of course, what would a tour of all the logical fallacies be without "Ad hominem"? 😟
I can't stop you from doing so but if you do, you will be reported and likely booted out of the site for making it personal and "attacking the person" instead of "attacking the point" as you are doing.

@themiddleway jesus is dead and he is never coming back. Lol

@IpraiseMYSELF

Keep going; almost have bingo:

@TheMiddleWay This is how we know you lost this debate,

  1. you failed to answer any quotes referring to the bible with actual scripture.
  2. you ignore the facts and concentrate on elaborate bs
  3. Now you threaten to call the site police and have me removed because you lost.
    Pathetic

@TheMiddleWay You are wrong when you say Christians do not promote killing themselves because there is a book by DC TALK that has nothing but stories of Christians who died for their faith and the book definitely promotes the idea that dying for Christianity is the ultimate sacrifice! Therefore the book is promoting Christians to die by going into china and illegally bringing bibles into the country in order to SAVE THE WORLD FROM THE WRATH OF JESUS WHO IS TO COME! They promote breaking the laws in china, and tell their followers it is the ultimate sacrifice to die spreading the gospel of Jesus.

@TheMiddleWay I think it's funny how you called me a zealot and attacked me first by this false accusation and then get mad when I make a funny name up for you! Seems like your agenda is to get me kicked off this site because you do not agree with my opinions! Why is it ok for you to call me names but you can not handle it when someone gives you a little taste of your own medicine. LOL. By the way go to P.A.T.C.H. and you will see a whole group of people who agree with my comments! I'm still waiting for some actual proof of your rant that Christianity and Jesus does not promote killing oneself! Where is your biblical scripture that proves this. I have shown you my proof in scripture! Better yet maybe you should go ask your pastor to help you out on this one!

@IpraiseMYSELF
"This is how we know you lost this debate,"

“”If you have to insist that you've won an Internet argument, you've probably lost badly."
  • Danth's Law

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@IpraiseMYSELF

"This is how we know you lost this debate,"
Who is this "we"? You keep talking about people only you can see.

"you failed to answer any quotes referring to the bible with actual scripture."
Don't need to. I only need to address your misreadings of scripture, not introduce new scripture.

"you ignore the facts and concentrate on elaborate bs"
Fact is I see no evidence that christians interpret that bible the way you do. That isn't me ignoring facts, that you ignoring the fact that Christians don't interpret the bible the way you do. Further, scripture isn't fact so your using scripture to support your views is already not fact based.

"Now you threaten to call the site police and have me removed because you lost.
Pathetic"
Only if you insist on making this personal about me instead of the topic.... ie, engage in Ad Hominem This site has rules on civility and if you violate them, there are consequences.

@IpraiseMYSELF
"jesus is dead and he is never coming back. Lol"
IF he ever existed at all, that is correct. We don't even know that he existed and thus that he was alive in the first place.

"They promote breaking the laws in china, and tell their followers it is the ultimate sacrifice to die spreading the gospel of Jesus."

Exactly as a soldier going to a foreign land and dying for their country is the ultimate sacrifice for our country. Again, you wrongly interpret "dying in the service of a belief" as "killing yourself"

"I think it's funny how you called me a zealot and attacked me first by this false accusation and then get mad when I make a funny name up for you!"
I never attacked you. I always attacked your ideas. If you make up "funny names" then you are attacking me and not my ideas. If you insist on engaging in "ad hominem", then it is you that will get you kicked out, not I.

"'m still waiting for some actual proof of your rant that Christianity and Jesus does not promote killing oneself!"
Don't need to. The burden of proof is on you for making the claim that it does and given that your proof relies on an idiosyncratic interpretation of the bible, one that no christian follows, IMO you have failed to meet that burden.

"I have shown you my proof in scripture! "
No. You have given me your interpretation of scripture. Proof would be that a majority of christians think and act the way you propose they do. As they do not, as we do not see a majority (or even minority) of christians "killing themselves", there is no proof that your interpretation is valid for christians.

"Better yet maybe you should go ask your pastor to help you out on this one!"
Don't have a pastor but I know many Christians and none of them have "killed themselves" nor promoted that other Christians should "kill themselves".

@IpraiseMYSELF
"By the way go to P.A.T.C.H. and you will see a whole group of people who agree with my comments! "

What's PATCH?

@TheMiddleWay I do not believe your a doctor! Maybe a doctor of bs. LMAO

@TheMiddleWay The fact is that you have your belief and I have mine! I have the actual words of Jesus telling his followers to die for their religion and you have.... well nothing but ideas that try to twist the truth of Jesus' words to make his lies seem more appealing. You may not be a Christian but you fight for Jesus and Christianity better than most pastors I have talked to. Your original post claims that " a belief system is not bad it is the people that make it bad." Let me give you an example! Hitler believed in a supreme race! Is that bad?

@IpraiseMYSELF

"I do not believe your a doctor! Maybe a doctor of bs. LMAO"
Your beliefs bear no relevance on the reality of my being a Physics and Medical Physics PhD nor does that reality bear any relevance to this discussion.
You bringing this up out of the blue is yet another example of your engaging in "Ad Hominem" by attacking the person instead of the points.

" I have the actual words of Jesus telling his followers to die for their religion"
You have an idiosyncratic interpretation, that is all. What you lack is evidence that a majority or minority of followers actually promote your interpretation and are lining up to die for their religion. Thus your interpretation of scripture and that of Christians are clearly at odds.

"You may not be a Christian but you fight for Jesus and Christianity better than most pastors I have talked to."
Nope. At no time have I "fought for" Jesus nor Christians. I've only commented that your interpretation of scripture is idiosyncratic and not in line with actual Christian belief nor practice.

"Let me give you an example! Hitler believed in a supreme race! Is that bad"
The belief is neither bad nor good; the actions taken in defense or offense of said belief on the other hand can be good or bad.

@TheMiddleWay Like a politician you only answer the questions you want! talking to you is not only a waste of time but is boring. You should continue talking to people who are interested in your bs because I AM NOT! If you do have a PhD, that explains why this county is going to shit!

@IpraiseMYSELF
"Like a politician you only answer the questions you want! "
Which question did I not answer? You asked me about "supreme race" and I answered it for example.

"You should continue talking to people who are interested in your bs because I AM NOT! "
It's not BS that there are no Christians that embrace your idiosyncratic interpretation of scripture. If there were, there would be a noticeable portion of them killing themselves or calling for other Christians to kill themselves. As there is not, your interpretation is NOT what Christians believe in or practice. That's not BS but evidence that given the lack of Christians believing or doing as you want them to believe or do, then your interpretation is flawed and idiosyncratic.

"If you do have a PhD, that explains why this county is going to shit!"
As a medical physicist, I use my PhD to treat cancer patients with radiation How is using my Phd to treating cancer patients explain why this country is going to shit? Seems to me that it doesn't and again you are only interested in more "ad hominem" by focusing on me and my PhD instead of focusing on the points we are discussing.

@TheMiddleWay I just ordered a book that shows how the government along with medical professionals have been hiding the cure for cancer for over 70 years so they can make money off of treating people by radiation therapy and chemo. A Jewish scientist found the cure while Hitler was actually protecting this Jewish man because Hitler was afraid of getting cancer. I do not remember the name of the book but it is in my car right now so I will get it in a while and give you the title. You need to leave the Christian debate alone because you are not educated in it at all. I understand why though because you were a catholic and that makes sense since for the longest time the catholics wouldn't even speak in English during their services. Do some research on the DC talk book I mentioned.

@IpraiseMYSELF
" You need to leave the Christian debate alone because you are not educated in it at all"
You need to address the points and not the person. To whit, my constant rebuttal to your point is the lack of christians who promote or live the way you propose they promote and live. You interpretation, simply put, is idiosyncratic and represents that way that you interpret scripture but not the way Christians interpret it or live it. It's a false narrative you promote, with no evidence but your interpretation to back it up.

" I just ordered a book that shows how the government along with medical professionals have been hiding the cure for cancer for over 70 years so they can make money off of treating people by radiation therapy and chemo. "
I'm not into conspiracy theories but yes, do let me know the title so I can vet it for you. It's always interesting to know what people are saying about cancer so I can better understand what information (or misinformation) my patients are subject to.

"Do some research on the DC talk book I mentioned."
I'll happily consider any quotes you bring up from the book or any information but if the only thing you have in support of your idea that christians promote killing themselves is interpreting quotes from books, be that the bible or DC talk, but there aren't actually christains doing or promoting what you claim they do or promote, then I find the actual evidence that christians don't do or promote what you say they do or promote more compelling than your interpretation of a written narrative that claims that they do.

@TheMiddleWay boring

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