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LINK The Supreme Court Will Soon Determine Whether Cities Can Punish People for Sleeping in Public When They Have Nowhere Else to Go | ACLU

Cities all across the United States have been increasingly passing laws that punish people who are forced to sleep outside each night due a lack of available shelter and extreme housing shortages. The Supreme Court will soon decide if doing so violates the Eighth Amendment’s prohibition on cruel and unusual punishment, in a case that arose out of southern Oregon and is arguably the most significant case on homelessness in decades. The ACLU’s Scout Katovich explains how the case made its way to the highest court in the U.S. and breaks down the stakes – both for the hundreds of thousands of people who are unhoused on any given night and for critical constitutional protections.

Katie Hoeppner: Can you tell us how this lawsuit came about and how it got to the Supreme Court?

Scout Katovich: Sure. The case comes out of Grants Pass, Oregon, which, like many cities in America, is facing a shortage of affordable housing that has led to increased homelessness. In 2019, there were at least 600 unhoused people in the city. The city’s response was to pass a set of laws making it illegal to sleep in public anywhere, at any time. The city called some of these laws “camping bans,” but they weren’t really about banning tents or what we usually think of as camping. Instead, they prohibited sleeping outside while using anything that could be considered “bedding,” even just a thin blanket to keep from freezing at night, or a rolled up t-shirt used as a pillow.

The punishment for this “crime” was hundreds of dollars in fines, which could quickly escalate to a sentence of 30-days in jail. Grants Pass started fining and arresting unhoused people under these laws, even though the city had zero accessible shelters for adults. So, every night, hundreds of people had no choice but to sleep outside and break these laws. In essence, they were being punished for the unavoidable human need to sleep.

A group of unhoused residents of Grants Pass challenged the enforcement of these laws and a federal court ruled in their favor, holding that the city’s enforcement of these “anti-sleeping” and “anti-camping” laws against unhoused residents with no access to shelter violated the U.S. Constitution’s prohibition on cruel and unusual punishments. On appeal, the Ninth Circuit agreed with the lower court. Now that decision is being reviewed by the Supreme Court, and the justices will hear oral arguments in the case on April 22.

KH: A lot of cities across the country have similar bans. Can you tell us how the Supreme Court’s ruling could affect the large number of people all over the country who don’t have any choice but to sleep outside at night?

SK: That’s exactly right – we’ve seen a troubling uptick in these kinds of unconstitutional sleeping and camping bans all across the U.S. One study found that over half of the 187 cities it surveyed have laws restricting sleeping in public and almost three-fourths have laws restricting camping. The Supreme Court decision in Grants Pass will determine whether cities can use laws like this to punish unhoused people with no access to shelter, just for sleeping outside with rudimentary protections from the elements. This ruling could affect a huge number of people. With over 600,000 unhoused people and a shortfall of at least 200,000 shelter beds nationwide, hundreds of thousands of people have no choice but to sleep in public every night.

If the Supreme Court rules for Grants Pass, cities could be empowered to treat all of those people as “criminals.”

KH: The stakes are clearly enormous. What is the ACLU’s involvement in this case?

SK: Absolutely, this is a really important case, both for unhoused people and for the constitutional principles at issue. We felt strongly that the ACLU should weigh in at the Supreme Court, in part because it’s part of our mission to protect constitutional rights, including the Eighth Amendment right to be free from cruel and unusual punishments. But we’re also deeply invested in protecting the rights of unhoused people and, in fact, the ACLU and its affiliates have brought lawsuits similar to the one before the Supreme Court, challenging enforcement of sleeping and camping bans in cities across the country, including Albuquerque, Honolulu, Phoenix, San Francisco, and Boulder. In this Supreme Court case, the ACLU and 19 of its affiliates submitted a “friend of the court” brief urging the Supreme Court to uphold the Ninth Circuit’s ruling that punishing unhoused people without access to shelter for sleeping in public violates the Eighth Amendment’s prohibition on cruel and unusual punishments.

KH: Can you explain why the Eighth Amendment is such an important focus of the brief and lawsuit?

SK: Yes, our brief explains that the Eighth Amendment’s original meaning and more than a century of Supreme Court cases make clear that the Cruel and Unusual Punishments Clause bars governments from punishing people in ways that are disproportionate to the crime. It may sound a little wonky, but it boils down to the idea that the Constitution places some checks on how the government can punish crime. Punishment must be appropriate to the seriousness of the crime and should only be as severe as is necessary to promote legitimate goals of our criminal legal system, like rehabilitation and deterrence. Applying these well-established principles to the Grants Pass case, any punishment for the “crime” of sleeping in public when you have no other choice is unconstitutionally excessive.

KH: Can you say how the Grants Pass case fits within the ACLU’s other work, for those who may not immediately think of homelessness as an ACLU issue?

SK: Well, first and foremost, the ACLU is committed to protecting the civil rights and liberties of all, and especially the most marginalized members of our society, which certainly includes unhoused people. And our society’s approach to homelessness has made it a criminal justice issue and an equality issue. When cities like Grants Pass choose to respond to homelessness with police and jails, it fuels mass incarceration, keeping people in an endless cycle of poverty, incarceration, and institutionalization. Rather than confront the decades of policy failures that have led to a dearth of safe and affordable housing, and access to healthcare, and other services, politicians and government officials blame individuals for our society’s failings and use criminal punishment to try to push people out of sight.

And that’s where the ACLU comes in. We can’t stand by and let governments choose ineffective “solutions” that trample on the rights and dignity of our neighbors. This is also an ACLU issue because homelessness intersects with many marginalized identities, compounding discrimination and the disproportionate harms that our criminal legal system inflicts on marginalized communities.

KH: That’s a really important point about compounding discrimination…

SK: Yes, people with disabilities, LGBTQ people, and people of color, especially Black and indigenous people, are far more likely to experience homelessness because of systemic inequality and discrimination. Their overrepresentation in both the criminal legal system and among the unhoused creates a vicious feedback loop – unhoused people have an increased risk of arrest and incarceration and, in turn, a jail or prison stay often leaves people without housing and employment, keeping them in homelessness. The ACLU has long been invested in ending mass incarceration and addressing inequities in the criminal legal system, and it’s clear that our society’s approach to homelessness is exacerbating both.

KH: You mentioned that elected officials “choose” the punitive approach. And I think that’s important to underline, because they often act as though their hands are tied. Can you say more about what elected leaders could actually do to meaningfully address homelessness?

SK: There’s so much they could be doing. But first, I just want to emphasize that the punitive approaches they are taking only make the situation worse. Criminal legal system involvement and homelessness are part of a vicious cycle. Arrests, citations, and jail or prison time don’t solve homelessness, they exacerbate it. These carceral approaches also cost taxpayers a lot of money. In 2015, Los Angeles spent $50 million policing anti-homeless laws and, in Seattle, enforcing just one of its “quality of life” laws cost the city $2.3 million over just five years. So we really need to call on elected officials to stop passing these laws and adopting policies that take this misguided approach. Instead, cities and states need to focus on policies that actually address the root causes of homelessness.

KH: I wish more elected leaders would show this courage. What specifically would address those root causes?

SK: First and foremost, they need to focus on investing in safe, affordable housing. The link between homelessness and unaffordable housing could not be clearer: the areas with the most unsheltered homelessness are also the most expensive housing markets. Addressing this is a long-term commitment, but it will pay off. There’s a lot of research demonstrating that providing permanent, affordable housing, coupled with accessible services, successfully ends chronic homelessness and also reduces arrests and incarceration. We also need to increase access to wrap-around supportive services, and voluntary mental health and substance use treatment, and adopt non-law enforcement responses to situations stemming from mental health issues and poverty. There’s strong evidence that these non-carceral approaches are cost-effective, reduce contact with the criminal legal system, and increase chances of obtaining housing and employment.

KH: Is there anything else you think people should know?

SK: Yes, I think it’s really important to underscore that homelessness is not a nuisance, it’s a symptom of our collective failure to invest in our communities. It’s uncomfortable for sheltered people to have to confront this failure, but the answer to that discomfort is not to temporarily push people out of sight through criminal punishments. Addressing homelessness in humane and effective ways helps everyone. So many of us are just one bad circumstance away from losing our homes.

Housing costs have skyrocketed while wages have not kept pace. We are also facing extreme housing shortages. As a result, there’s nowhere in the country where a person working a full-time minimum-wage job can afford even a modest two-bedroom apartment. So protecting unhoused people’s rights and adopting effective approaches to reducing and preventing homelessness is something we should all be invested in.

snytiger6 9 Apr 14
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I don't really understand. What's the punishment? Give them three hots and a cot on the taxpayer dime? It doesn't really seem like they are in a really strong position here. Shame we can't just, ya know, give them a place to live like they've trialed successfully in some cities. This world is fucked.

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Jolanta sent me a reply and then blocked me. Apparently she doesn't realize that in doing so I could not access her reply.

I don't care if she blocked me, she usually makes unsupported remarks, and I am sure her reply was merely more of the same.

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Thanks for posting

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OK. maybe they can sleep in private when they have no other place to go.

Say what……🤨

Ah, the freedom to sleep under bridges, a right the rich also have, or that no one will have, after this court ruling happens..

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Kick 'em when they're down, how Xian!!!!!

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Hopefully they will rule that blanket bans are unconstitutional. It is a horrible non solution to the problem. My city, oddly enough near Grant's Pass, has declared all sorts of camping zones where it's OK to camp or live in your car. Also makes it easier for outreach workers and such to provide services. Our current SCOTUS, I suspect we could get a really horrifying ruling.

That would actually be a solution. Give them an area close (because of needed services) to the cities, with accommodations and sanitation services, including showers and toilets. Provide jobs, for those who want them , dealing with trash clean up, facilities maintenance and security. This would give people who want to a way to earn their way out, and for those not capable at least a small amount of dignity.

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It would not surprise me if some crazed member of the Rethuglican party proposed executing homeless people as a way of "fixing the problem forever". 😟

There are always a few extremists with a "final solution".

@snytiger6 Exactly, make them say the quiet part out loud, that what they really want, is a Hitler-like Final Solution...

I mean, I'd personally rather die than live without a home, but I recognize my desire to stay alive is VASTLY different from 99% of the people out there. What I can't figure out is why it's so different.

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The Republicans will say throwing them in jail is providing housing. With most cities having overcrowded jails already, I can’t wait to see how that works out for them.

Republicans and the ability to think are mutually exclusive terms.

I think I’d rather be in jail then homeless….at least in jail I’d have a bunk to lay on, and 3 meals a day!?😶

@Aaron70 I think in most cities they would run out of room in the jails long before they ran out of homeless. But you’re right. They would be out of the weather, fed regular, receive medical care, regular showers and clothing.

@Barnie2years It's just that they would experience even more predatory violence than when out on the street..

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Gosh, they want to have laws against sleeping outside but are okay with guns being readily available. Just crazy.

Learn the difference between Federal, State and Local laws. If you knew the difference you would not make the comment you made.

You might need a gun so you can shoot those people living outside. That is the mentality here.

@DenoPenno Yes, unfortunately I think you are right.

@DenoPenno, @Alienbeing Not expecting anything els from you.

@Jolanta Not wanting to learn is your unfortunate lot in life. You don't undersrand U.S. laws yet feel you can expound on them. Apparently you like sounding stupid. My comment had nothing to do with guns, rather law.

@Alienbeing All I can say is that you are a very narrow man. You are the one who cannot understand that no matter wether it is state, federal or local laws they still are okay with shooting people instead of building shelters.

@Jolanta Yoour uneducated opinion is noted, and laughed at.

No U.S. law permits or accepts unwarrented shootings or any other type of aggression.

@Alienbeing What does it meant to you: Being for the community?

@Jolanta No clue what that question means.

@Alienbeing Oh, and here was me thinking you knew english.

@Jolanta I do, perhaps you should try to write in comprehensible English. "Being for community has NO universal meaning, one can attach many alternative meanings. Last, "What does it meant to you' is obviously incorrect English because "meant" is past tense. You should have used present tense.

Care to illustrate your "wonderful" command of language more?

@Alienbeing Just wondering, how many languages do you speak?

@Jolanta I can only see one side of this exchange because I have him blocked. But I remember him being an insufferable idiot, so I'm probably fairly accurately guessing the other half. 🤣

@ChestRockfield In the end I blocked him to. He is just so incredibly one sided. He thinks himself as always being right, never wanting to see anyones els point of view.

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The Tories in the UK are trying the same. The biggest opposition so far has come from the police. Who are more or less saying "Don't dump your problems on us. Try solving the problem 1st before using us as your people sweepers"

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If the Supreme Court does decide against the homeless, then expect the reinstitution of vagrancy laws that imprison the homeless, and the privatized, for profit, prison system in the U.S. to have record profits, as the constitution permits slave labor for persons in prisons. So, they would make money off of the government for housing the homeless, and then again by forcing them to fulfill work contracts with corporations seeking cheep labor.

@snytiger6 I can see that happening, the greed is getting worse, property taxes are going up and soon there will be more homeless and more profits to be made by keeping people poor. This is going to be a disaster.

Ah, a return of hundreds of years ago, to the days of debtor's prisons and the workhouses for the poor.... oh wait, we were already there...

@michelle666gar There has always been a lot of profit, for certain people, from keeping others poor..

@TomMcGiverin True!

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