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What is the bible to you?

Being raised Catholic the bible is to them the word of god, right? To me the bible is a book just like Harry Potter is. Who is to say that 2000 yrs from Harry Potter is the new bible.
My question is, what is the bible to you?

CeciRosane60 7 Dec 11
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An ancient sewer with some diamonds in it.

skado Level 9 Dec 11, 2017

Define diamonds, please?

That's a load of shit!

Why did you say that?

@CeciRosane60 Archetypal images that tell us something about our nature. An ancient predecessor to modern psychology; an effort to relieve psychological suffering. And some thoughtful insight on social cooperation, which is still scientifically sound.

@BucketlistBob Why did who?

The bible is a sewer, sewers are full of shit. Therefore, bible is full of shit! QED

@CeciRosane60 industrial diamonds are used as abrasives.

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The most confusing and painfully dull book ever written. Some people (believers and non) make a big stink about having not only read it (all of it!!!) but also understanding it. I think they are either liars or they desperately need to make friends and get a life.

It is called theological school - where they do these things. They are not lying, but few actually 'understand' it. It is sort of a book of magick that one has to be in the right space to understand. Smoke a joint, then read it, it will be much more clear then. 😉

I don't think so. Pot makes me highly paranoid. I'm certain I would hate reading that crap even more if I were high!
I guess I don't know what badge agnostics and atheists are wearing when they say they have read the entirely of the bib. For one thing, i don't usually believe it and 2) they say it makes gives them a more educated and worthy opponent when debating Christianity. You're up against someone who believes some giant and invisible masochist is running this shit show! You don't need an education, you need an Rx tablet and the ability to throw your hands in the air and say "good luck, man".

Funny, I hear you.

@Issa Or better yet, smoke a bowl, and don't read it.

@JimG Hahahaha! To each his or her own is my motto!

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The Goat Herder's Guide to the Galaxy.

Duke Level 8 Dec 21, 2017

Thank You - that laugh was Delicious! 😀

Well said!! Wish I'd thought of that....

HHGG throw the towel in.

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A way to get people to put 10% of their income toward "death insurance". Here's where it says you have a soul and there is an afterlife. Since the bible says so, that makes it true. To be sure you get in, just give me 10% of your income and I will get you in. Guaranteed.

Oh by the way, when you die, you can't come back and tell these people that they lied, that there is no afterlife. So their con game is 100% safe. Nobody can refute it. See, it says so right here...in the bible.

Like a time share on beach front property in the galaxy, right?

Sounds right! 🙂

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My thoughts: The Bible is a collection of written works from different periods in the Middle East, composed and edited by many different people with a variety of motivations, and compiled and canonized by the established Roman Catholic Church (for the New Testament) based upon what they already believed to be true, discarding any writings that disagreed with their established theology. None of the New Testament is a first-hand account of the life and times of a Jewish carpenter-turned-preacher who may never have existed at all. Paul of Tarsus is the true founder of the faith, and his ministry was one of power and money and influence for the sake of political and social revolution. The gospels are basically Jesus fan fiction. And many of the books are now seen by historians to be fraudulent. Some of the more symbolic works, seen by fundamentalists to speak to our age, were indeed coded language to criticize the powerful in its own time.

Yep.

I have always found it interesting that, although the biblical canon was not settled by the Roman Catholic Church until the 4th century, and then only gradually, Protestants (with the exception of discarding the Old Testament Apocrypha) bought into it hook, line and sinker. If the Protestants thought the Catholics were so wrong, why did they think their theological choices were so right when it came to the Bible?

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A very well written book of fiction.

Not that well written is my opinion ...

Yeah, I’m going to have to agree with CeciRosane60. That book contridicrs itself just a little too much to be taken seriously if it is supposed to be the word of a God.

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The Bible is 100% accurate, if thrown at close range.

????

You've never seen me throw.

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Wait... I like that Harry Potter bible idea. I'd pray to the almighty Dobby. Saint Hagrid has a nice ring to it.

Duke Level 8 Dec 21, 2017

a guy after my own heart

The hair fits and Hagrid is very, very cool. Potter is an archetype of the beneficent mage with the power to save others and help them to become better people. Malfoy's - the devil and demons. 😉

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A book full of stories. Chapter One of Gensis is my favorite. Everything got made, everything was inspected and deemed good. 420 time. End of story. Everything after that is like 50 shades of grey (never read the books or saw the movie) or lord of the flies mashed with catch 22.

And who was employed to carry out the inspection of God's work?

@Coffeo damn never gave it much thought, just enjoyed the idea. But a quick read says God inspected what 'he' created and deemed it good. So there ya go, myself, I'm a little more critical of what I create.

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I'm sure there is some actual human history in it -- or at least how those people perceived their world. Or at least however it was altered by the Church.....

The notion that this "Jehovah" or whatever was from another world / time makes an awful lot of sense to me!

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I concur with Mark Twain and this saying on it in his Letters from the Earth: "It is full of interest. It has noble poetry in it; and some clever fables; and some blood-drenched history; and some good morals; and a wealth of obscenity; and upwards of a thousand lies."

I will also add that it contains many contradictions.

555 contradictions according to A book I had.

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A long hard lesson...

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a very strange series of legends written 1400 years ago translated badly twice, about something that never happened 2000 years ago. beats me how anyone finds any solace in it .

I have wondered the same thing.

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kindling

turf Level 5 Dec 11, 2017

@turf, now that I like 🙂

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The bible was written in in a language that can be interpreted and translated in many ways buy the one who is reading it. Also there were many things left out of the bible. So it is some ancient writings that are translated and described by many with many different outcomes along with many parts porously omitted. And its a hard read and very strange story.

... and a best seller...

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A book of mythology. I've always been interested in mythology, not so much Christianity but in my book called "The Mythical Creatures Bible" by Brenda Rosen it even has as it puts it "Creatures of the Bible" which has a few of the beasts from the bible in it and basically refers to the bible as a legend. Even has Lilith in it. Which gave me information that in the Jewish Talmudic folklore of the fourth century CE, says this... quote.. "Lilith is said to be Adam's first wife. Seductive and enchanting, she was created by God in response to Adam's request for a mate. However, Lilith refuses to lie submissively beneath Adam as he desires and when he tries to force her, she abandons him. Though God sends three angles to bring her back, Lilith refuses. Instead, she consorts with evil spirits near the Dead Sea, where each day, she gives birth to more than a hundred demons. A Muslim legend says that she coupled with Satan and gave birth to the demon Djinn. To punish her for her disobedience, God kills some of her children each day." I think that is pretty fucking interesting and it makes me laugh!! Cause if you bring all religions together, it basically means that Eve was indeed not the first woman and the bible liesss and covers the trutthhh. Pretty funny!

If you study the Sumerian legends you find the history was taken by those who wrote the Talmud (old test), and that much of biblical old test. is from Sumeria, not the Jewish nation. Sumeria dates back to 450k, so there were people here long before Adam and Eve. The Twelfth Planet by Zecharia Sitchin translated found tablets from Sumeria in 1976. It tells the whole story of the garden of eden etc... Zoroastrians tell part of the history, the bible is part of the history, and other civilizations tell other parts - Hinduism etc... One must really study them all and draw from them like a great puzzle to fit it all together. Good luck to you on your journey.

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A distorted blend of mythology & history ~

Varn Level 8 Jan 1, 2018

Far, far more mythology and , perhaps a very miniscule crumbs of history if any.

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As one who has a Doctorate in Theology plus a Degree in both Ancient and Modern Histories I can simply say that the bible, starting with the O.T. is little more than a sordid mish-mash of mythologies and legends, etc, plagiarised from much older cultures/civilisations around the Mediterranean Region and twisted and contorted to suit the desire of the Hebrew Peoples in a vain effort to validate themselves and their perpetual war-like natures.
The N.T. also simply a re-think apology effort to put their god into a more favourable light than it was in the O.T..

They failed both the o.t. and n.t. sucks....I mean burning bushes, virgin birth and 3 wise men...yep and I have a bridge in Brooklyn I would love to sell

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In 2000 years I can't see people being murdered, tortured, oppressed or forced to live in poverty whilst paying tithes to people living in luxury who are experts in Harry Potter tales.

And I think 2000 from now Harry Potter wiil be god... ????

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A leg for my couch

I like how you think.

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A band I played in spent the night in jail in Texas in the 70's. There was no toilet paper so the regulars in the drunk tank used pages out of the Bible. I thought that it was appropriate. That is what I think of the Bible. It was a bogus arrest and they dropped the charges. So it was all good.

HAHAHA great answer

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The bible is a collection of stories by different authors from different times and it tells many different stories. Some versions of it have 66 books and others have more. There are no original writngs today of any of the versions. Everything is a copy to the extent that today we have no evidence exactly of what was copied. The Old Testament is used extensively to "prove" prophesy in the New Testament but the writings are contrived to prove a purpose. There are no eye witness accounts of anything at all, Jesus and all about him included. On close inspection much of the New Testament was written long after the time of Jesus. It's therefore not surprising that you find writings that appear to refer to 70 AD and the Jewish war of that time. The earliest date for Revelation being written is 96 AD. In the first 300 years after the time of Jesus this all came together in accepted ways of what people were going to believe and allow in their collection of all the stories. Constantine had a lot to do with this but so did Marcion and others. The biggest irony of the New Testament is that Saul of Tarsus (as Paul) was the real founder of the faith and he never even met Jesus. Many did not trust him then but today the entire bible (biblios) is looked at as the enerrent word of god. The big book comes about in truth as something closer to Frankenstein's monster, but you cannot tell the faithful that.

Sorry. I wrote about this before but I like this one better.

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Rolling papers

I hadn't thought of that. I'll bet that thin paper would work well, though. Thanks.

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Interestingly enough Catholics hardly ever read the bible. Which is a pity because it sure helps with deconversion.

Their leaders discourage it because they only are supposed to believe the church's interpretations.

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A collection of ancient stories. Nothing more.

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