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When there is more outrage over illegal immigrant families getting separated than over our own poor ...
MikeFlora comments on Jul 17, 2018:
Ok the thing says 3 comments, but I'm the only one here?
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 18, 2018:
@MikeFlora All that over a question...unreal.
MikeFlora comments on Jul 17, 2018:
Ok the thing says 3 comments, but I'm the only one here?
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 18, 2018:
@MikeFlora All that over a question...unreal.
When there is more outrage over illegal immigrant families getting separated than over our own poor ...
MikeFlora comments on Jul 17, 2018:
Ok the thing says 3 comments, but I'm the only one here?
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 18, 2018:
@MikeFlora Did you say that comment on a public post or something? That many people got that upset over that? The one guy though had you blocked for some time now though, he blocks most of those who identify as liberal.
MikeFlora comments on Jul 17, 2018:
Ok the thing says 3 comments, but I'm the only one here?
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 18, 2018:
@MikeFlora Did you say that comment on a public post or something? That many people got that upset over that? The one guy though had you blocked for some time now though, he blocks most of those who identify as liberal.
I made a comment the papa john's guy that was not based on all the information about what happened.
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 17, 2018:
Looks like I missed something... I didn't see any comments you made that were that bad, even if they may have been inaccurate.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 17, 2018:
@MikeFlora (Gasps)...Mike said a dirty word, haha.
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 17, 2018:
Looks like I missed something... I didn't see any comments you made that were that bad, even if they may have been inaccurate.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 17, 2018:
@MikeFlora (Gasps)...Mike said a dirty word, haha.
I know immigration has been a heated topic of discussion in my country (USA), but I've observed a ...
AlPastor comments on Jul 16, 2018:
Can you point to the specific clause in the 1996 law that forces the separation of families seeking asylum? I don't see it in the link you provided. After all, that's what the uproar from across the political spectrum was about after the new policy went in to place this year. Thank you.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 17, 2018:
@AlPastor If you don't care, then there's no need to continue coming back to this post then...
AlPastor comments on Jul 16, 2018:
Can you point to the specific clause in the 1996 law that forces the separation of families seeking asylum? I don't see it in the link you provided. After all, that's what the uproar from across the political spectrum was about after the new policy went in to place this year. Thank you.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 17, 2018:
@AlPastor If you don't care, then there's no need to continue coming back to this post then...
When there is more outrage over illegal immigrant families getting separated than over our own poor ...
MikeFlora comments on Jul 17, 2018:
Ok the thing says 3 comments, but I'm the only one here?
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 17, 2018:
The others who commented on here must have you blocked then.
MikeFlora comments on Jul 17, 2018:
Ok the thing says 3 comments, but I'm the only one here?
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 17, 2018:
The others who commented on here must have you blocked then.
When there is more outrage over illegal immigrant families getting separated than over our own poor ...
DUCHESSA comments on Jul 16, 2018:
That sign is an oxymoron
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 17, 2018:
@DUCHESSA I think people use the term alien if they want to be insulting, because it has more than one meaning. For the most part, I've always stuck with the term illegal immigrant, but if others wish to use the other term I don't mind though.
DUCHESSA comments on Jul 16, 2018:
That sign is an oxymoron
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 17, 2018:
@DUCHESSA I think people use the term alien if they want to be insulting, because it has more than one meaning. For the most part, I've always stuck with the term illegal immigrant, but if others wish to use the other term I don't mind though.
When there is more outrage over illegal immigrant families getting separated than over our own poor ...
DUCHESSA comments on Jul 16, 2018:
That sign is an oxymoron
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 17, 2018:
@DUCHESSA http://www.dictionary.com/browse/alien
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/illegal-alien
DUCHESSA comments on Jul 16, 2018:
That sign is an oxymoron
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 17, 2018:
@DUCHESSA http://www.dictionary.com/browse/alien
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/illegal-alien
I've been seeing some reactions on YouTube about the meeting between Trump and Putin with the ...
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 17, 2018:
I've yet to see any hard proof the Russians directly interferred with our last Presidential election...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 17, 2018:
@Omen6Actual It's gotten to a point where I don't trust any media sources, including FOX. The information you do have is solid, and you hit the proverbial nail on the head.
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 17, 2018:
I've yet to see any hard proof the Russians directly interferred with our last Presidential election...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 17, 2018:
@Omen6Actual It's gotten to a point where I don't trust any media sources, including FOX. The information you do have is solid, and you hit the proverbial nail on the head.
I've been seeing some reactions on YouTube about the meeting between Trump and Putin with the ...
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 17, 2018:
I've yet to see any hard proof the Russians directly interferred with our last Presidential election...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 17, 2018:
@Omen6Actual Assuming is the key word there, which is what it looks like the liberal left has been doing, assuming a rigged election took place.
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 17, 2018:
I've yet to see any hard proof the Russians directly interferred with our last Presidential election...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 17, 2018:
@Omen6Actual Assuming is the key word there, which is what it looks like the liberal left has been doing, assuming a rigged election took place.
When there is more outrage over illegal immigrant families getting separated than over our own poor ...
Omen6Actual comments on Jul 16, 2018:
I absolutely agree (I've been one of those homeless guys) but I'd like to extend all homeless Americans (who aren't necessarily homeless by choice). I believe in taking care of our own before importing foreigners by the hundreds of thousands further bogging down our system/economy.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 16, 2018:
Sorry for the confusion there, I meant our poor and homeless veterans as two different things, but how I had that worded made it seem like I was only referring to veterans. I should have mentioned them in two different sentences.
Omen6Actual comments on Jul 16, 2018:
I absolutely agree (I've been one of those homeless guys) but I'd like to extend all homeless Americans (who aren't necessarily homeless by choice). I believe in taking care of our own before importing foreigners by the hundreds of thousands further bogging down our system/economy.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 16, 2018:
Sorry for the confusion there, I meant our poor and homeless veterans as two different things, but how I had that worded made it seem like I was only referring to veterans. I should have mentioned them in two different sentences.
I want the ride and the rifle:
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 16, 2018:
What, no Smartgun?
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 16, 2018:
@MikeFlora Isn't the Smartgun from the Aliens movie cool, Mike?
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 16, 2018:
What, no Smartgun?
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 16, 2018:
@MikeFlora Isn't the Smartgun from the Aliens movie cool, Mike?
When there is more outrage over illegal immigrant families getting separated than over our own poor ...
DUCHESSA comments on Jul 16, 2018:
That sign is an oxymoron
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 16, 2018:
@DUCHESSA You raise a good point there...
DUCHESSA comments on Jul 16, 2018:
That sign is an oxymoron
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 16, 2018:
@DUCHESSA You raise a good point there...
When there is more outrage over illegal immigrant families getting separated than over our own poor ...
DUCHESSA comments on Jul 16, 2018:
That sign is an oxymoron
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 16, 2018:
Because it doesn't exactly have to mention the word illegal?
DUCHESSA comments on Jul 16, 2018:
That sign is an oxymoron
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 16, 2018:
Because it doesn't exactly have to mention the word illegal?
When there is more outrage over illegal immigrant families getting separated than over our own poor ...
DUCHESSA comments on Jul 16, 2018:
That sign is an oxymoron
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 16, 2018:
How so?
DUCHESSA comments on Jul 16, 2018:
That sign is an oxymoron
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 16, 2018:
How so?
I shared this one on the public threads as well, can't wait to see the feedback that post may ...
MikeFlora comments on Jul 16, 2018:
We demonize Trump because he's a fucking idiot
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 16, 2018:
I'm fine with those who criticize Trump, what I have a problem with are those who turn around and idolize Obama, who was also a fucking idiot liar. Bush jr and Clinton were creeps too who sold us up the river too.
MikeFlora comments on Jul 16, 2018:
We demonize Trump because he's a fucking idiot
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 16, 2018:
I'm fine with those who criticize Trump, what I have a problem with are those who turn around and idolize Obama, who was also a fucking idiot liar. Bush jr and Clinton were creeps too who sold us up the river too.
Good morning fellow gunslingers!
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 16, 2018:
You're just a big ole conservative meanie to the liberal progressives on this site.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 16, 2018:
@bigpawbullets Haha, I know right?
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 16, 2018:
You're just a big ole conservative meanie to the liberal progressives on this site.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 16, 2018:
@bigpawbullets Haha, I know right?
I know immigration has been a heated topic of discussion in my country (USA), but I've observed a ...
AlPastor comments on Jul 16, 2018:
Can you point to the specific clause in the 1996 law that forces the separation of families seeking asylum? I don't see it in the link you provided. After all, that's what the uproar from across the political spectrum was about after the new policy went in to place this year. Thank you.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 16, 2018:
The point was Clinton laid the groundwork for what we have now, I don't care about what was specifically mentioned otherwise.
AlPastor comments on Jul 16, 2018:
Can you point to the specific clause in the 1996 law that forces the separation of families seeking asylum? I don't see it in the link you provided. After all, that's what the uproar from across the political spectrum was about after the new policy went in to place this year. Thank you.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 16, 2018:
The point was Clinton laid the groundwork for what we have now, I don't care about what was specifically mentioned otherwise.
I shared this one on the public threads as well, can't wait to see the feedback that post may ...
MikeFlora comments on Jul 16, 2018:
They didn't make a big deal about it. They damn sure didn't say, if you don't want to have your kids taken away don't come to this country illegally.
The top one left office not only with a balanced budget, actually had a surplus.
The second one saved this country from another depression, and left...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 16, 2018:
This comment is not directed at anyone in particular, just a general observation. Times like this when my fellow Americans criticize their own President in favor of what foreign powers think about us, I get to see all the traitors that are in my country. Who gives a flying fuck about what other countries think about us? We need to do what is best for us, and for what it's worth most other countries don't really care about our opinions. It's a sad day in America when citizens care more about illegal immigrants than our own homeless folks and military men and women who are suffering. Progressive liberalism has really screwed this country up something fierce, the trouble is so many do not realize just how devastating the progressive crowd has been and the damage they continue to do. Sorry about the rant guys, I'm just getting sick of the whole ordeal.
MikeFlora comments on Jul 16, 2018:
They didn't make a big deal about it. They damn sure didn't say, if you don't want to have your kids taken away don't come to this country illegally.
The top one left office not only with a balanced budget, actually had a surplus.
The second one saved this country from another depression, and left...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 16, 2018:
This comment is not directed at anyone in particular, just a general observation. Times like this when my fellow Americans criticize their own President in favor of what foreign powers think about us, I get to see all the traitors that are in my country. Who gives a flying fuck about what other countries think about us? We need to do what is best for us, and for what it's worth most other countries don't really care about our opinions. It's a sad day in America when citizens care more about illegal immigrants than our own homeless folks and military men and women who are suffering. Progressive liberalism has really screwed this country up something fierce, the trouble is so many do not realize just how devastating the progressive crowd has been and the damage they continue to do. Sorry about the rant guys, I'm just getting sick of the whole ordeal.
I shared this one on the public threads as well, can't wait to see the feedback that post may ...
MikeFlora comments on Jul 16, 2018:
They didn't make a big deal about it. They damn sure didn't say, if you don't want to have your kids taken away don't come to this country illegally.
The top one left office not only with a balanced budget, actually had a surplus.
The second one saved this country from another depression, and left...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 16, 2018:
They didn't make a big out of it because they didn't want the citizens to dwell on their actions. If illegals don't want to be separated from their children, why do they make a bad decision to come here illegally then and blame said actions on the President and his Admin? Dont you think it's time they start getting some of the blame for making poor choices? Bill Clinton hurt the working class with NAFTA and more taxes, and he and Bush jr were responsible for the recession that hit in 2008. Obama had 8 years, and put us deeper in the hole the previous 2 Admins put us in. Obama screwed people like me by forcing everyone to have healthcare coverage or else face paying a fine, and forcing all citizens to do that is not only un-American but a financial hardship on those who didn't want health insurance or could afford it. The economy was stagnant during the Obama reign, and only within the past few months are things finally getting better due to some of Trump's policies. You want to talk about what has been bad for our country? The previous 3 Administrations hurt us, the citizens, and all Democrats think about is adding more taxes into the equation to fund things, small wonder why alot of folks cannot afford a decent living. All I hear is impeach Trump, yet Clinton wasn't impeached for what he did. NAFTA was devastating to guys like us Mike, Clinton was far from being a good President. That's alright though Mike, don't believe me, just keep letting the Democrats steal from you in the form of new taxes all the while they claim to be helping the citizens. Things have been so screwed up in this country for so long people forgot what genuine progress looks like. Lastly, I couldn't care less about the type of person Trump is, I care about his job performance, and he has been fulfilling quite a few of his campaign promises, the same promises people elected him on.
MikeFlora comments on Jul 16, 2018:
They didn't make a big deal about it. They damn sure didn't say, if you don't want to have your kids taken away don't come to this country illegally.
The top one left office not only with a balanced budget, actually had a surplus.
The second one saved this country from another depression, and left...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 16, 2018:
They didn't make a big out of it because they didn't want the citizens to dwell on their actions. If illegals don't want to be separated from their children, why do they make a bad decision to come here illegally then and blame said actions on the President and his Admin? Dont you think it's time they start getting some of the blame for making poor choices? Bill Clinton hurt the working class with NAFTA and more taxes, and he and Bush jr were responsible for the recession that hit in 2008. Obama had 8 years, and put us deeper in the hole the previous 2 Admins put us in. Obama screwed people like me by forcing everyone to have healthcare coverage or else face paying a fine, and forcing all citizens to do that is not only un-American but a financial hardship on those who didn't want health insurance or could afford it. The economy was stagnant during the Obama reign, and only within the past few months are things finally getting better due to some of Trump's policies. You want to talk about what has been bad for our country? The previous 3 Administrations hurt us, the citizens, and all Democrats think about is adding more taxes into the equation to fund things, small wonder why alot of folks cannot afford a decent living. All I hear is impeach Trump, yet Clinton wasn't impeached for what he did. NAFTA was devastating to guys like us Mike, Clinton was far from being a good President. That's alright though Mike, don't believe me, just keep letting the Democrats steal from you in the form of new taxes all the while they claim to be helping the citizens. Things have been so screwed up in this country for so long people forgot what genuine progress looks like. Lastly, I couldn't care less about the type of person Trump is, I care about his job performance, and he has been fulfilling quite a few of his campaign promises, the same promises people elected him on.
Bill Clinton signed and he and Barack Obama applied this law...but Trump is the one blamed...
rogueflyer comments on Jul 15, 2018:
I must have missed something here. What law are you speaking of? Is this something you heard on Info wars or fox news?
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 15, 2018:
@rogueflyer This came from Salon- https://www.salon.com/amp/bill_clintons_shameful_legacy_on_immigration_terrible_laws_he_signed_rip_apart_families_and_authorize_unjust_detention_human_rights_watch_says
I dare you to tell me Salon is a conservative based site...
rogueflyer comments on Jul 15, 2018:
I must have missed something here. What law are you speaking of? Is this something you heard on Info wars or fox news?
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 15, 2018:
@rogueflyer This came from Salon- https://www.salon.com/amp/bill_clintons_shameful_legacy_on_immigration_terrible_laws_he_signed_rip_apart_families_and_authorize_unjust_detention_human_rights_watch_says
I dare you to tell me Salon is a conservative based site...
Wish everyone knew this.
Holysocks comments on Jul 15, 2018:
I have never had an issue. My last ex was a dark lady. She left me because she saw people looking at us.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 15, 2018:
Sorry to hear, I went through a similar situation in the past too.
Holysocks comments on Jul 15, 2018:
I have never had an issue. My last ex was a dark lady. She left me because she saw people looking at us.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 15, 2018:
Sorry to hear, I went through a similar situation in the past too.
What are we going do?
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 15, 2018:
I don't know when people in this country are going to wake up and realize that hardly any politicians these days actually care about the average citizen? The only way I see things possibly changing in this country is to elect a third party candidate, the two party monopoly is not cutting it. ...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 15, 2018:
@Kojaksmom You're probably right about that...
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 15, 2018:
I don't know when people in this country are going to wake up and realize that hardly any politicians these days actually care about the average citizen? The only way I see things possibly changing in this country is to elect a third party candidate, the two party monopoly is not cutting it. ...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 15, 2018:
@Kojaksmom You're probably right about that...
My concern is not immigrants wanting to become US citizens, I'm worried about the potentially ...
metalhead222 comments on Jul 14, 2018:
There is validation in crimes from any people in America we are a violent species overall. just never judge a entire group or race off the actions of a few, my 2 cents anyways
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 14, 2018:
I think you got to the root of the problem when you mentioned we as a species are prone to violence.
metalhead222 comments on Jul 14, 2018:
There is validation in crimes from any people in America we are a violent species overall. just never judge a entire group or race off the actions of a few, my 2 cents anyways
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 14, 2018:
I think you got to the root of the problem when you mentioned we as a species are prone to violence.
Another rotten progressive agenda, wanting abolish ICE-
[thefederalist.com]
DUCHESSA comments on Jul 14, 2018:
May be we should change few of the ways used by ICE but eliminating / replacing the agency is stupid.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 14, 2018:
I agree, getting rid of them would solve nothing.
DUCHESSA comments on Jul 14, 2018:
May be we should change few of the ways used by ICE but eliminating / replacing the agency is stupid.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 14, 2018:
I agree, getting rid of them would solve nothing.
Top three movies you watched over and over as a kid.
Quazi comments on Jul 14, 2018:
I was just thinking about atreyu yesterday!
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 14, 2018:
What about Gmork?
Quazi comments on Jul 14, 2018:
I was just thinking about atreyu yesterday!
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 14, 2018:
What about Gmork?
Another rotten progressive agenda, wanting abolish ICE-
[thefederalist.com]
MikeFlora comments on Jul 14, 2018:
We should never give gov't agencies cool names, we have enough trouble with ego-manics as it is
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 14, 2018:
Maybe we should cut back on the number of government agencies...
MikeFlora comments on Jul 14, 2018:
We should never give gov't agencies cool names, we have enough trouble with ego-manics as it is
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 14, 2018:
Maybe we should cut back on the number of government agencies...
Heatwave reveals a hidden neolithic monument in Ireland
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 13, 2018:
Speaking of which, what do you think the purpose of Stonehenge was/is?
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 13, 2018:
@SkotlandSkye Thank you for suggestion, will look into it...
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 13, 2018:
Speaking of which, what do you think the purpose of Stonehenge was/is?
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 13, 2018:
@SkotlandSkye Thank you for suggestion, will look into it...
Welcome to Out Of The Illusion.
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 13, 2018:
Too much truth spoken in this group...which would probably upset about ninety percent of the members on this site who worship the likes of CNN and MSM.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 13, 2018:
@William_Mary They left organized religion only to adopt big government as their new god...
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 13, 2018:
Too much truth spoken in this group...which would probably upset about ninety percent of the members on this site who worship the likes of CNN and MSM.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 13, 2018:
@William_Mary They left organized religion only to adopt big government as their new god...
To all agnostic users,
My time here on agnostic has come to an end.
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 13, 2018:
Whilst I may not have always agreed with your political views, you were one of the relatively few members on here that I've come across that explained your stance(s) in deeper detail and shared with this community information/knowledge that was very useful for everyone across the board, and you ...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 13, 2018:
I'm not fond of social media myself, never was. I do know of another site you may be interested in or that could be useful to you in the future, and if you are interested I could message you the name of that site.
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 13, 2018:
Whilst I may not have always agreed with your political views, you were one of the relatively few members on here that I've come across that explained your stance(s) in deeper detail and shared with this community information/knowledge that was very useful for everyone across the board, and you ...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 13, 2018:
I'm not fond of social media myself, never was. I do know of another site you may be interested in or that could be useful to you in the future, and if you are interested I could message you the name of that site.
Hey! Look what I found down in Lebanon today at Southern Ohio Gun (SOG)! A crate of 6 still in ...
TheInterlooper comments on Jul 12, 2018:
I don't like Mike's odds.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 13, 2018:
@TheInterlooper That's a good way of putting it.
TheInterlooper comments on Jul 12, 2018:
I don't like Mike's odds.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 13, 2018:
@TheInterlooper That's a good way of putting it.
Hey! Look what I found down in Lebanon today at Southern Ohio Gun (SOG)! A crate of 6 still in ...
MikeFlora comments on Jul 12, 2018:
I'll let spike go first if he survives then I'll give it a try
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 13, 2018:
You're far too kind Mike...
MikeFlora comments on Jul 12, 2018:
I'll let spike go first if he survives then I'll give it a try
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 13, 2018:
You're far too kind Mike...
Something for our friends over on Mike's page to contemplate:
MikeFlora comments on Jul 10, 2018:
70 plus million gun nuts wasn't what the founding fathers had in mind. It is because of twisting their words that made this happen. When they put their words to paper there were only 13 states, and they were using flintlock muskets.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 12, 2018:
@MikeFlora How many rounds a gun holds is another trivial issue. Any experienced shooter who say uses a six round revolver and has a few speed loaders on hand could do serious damage, just saying. Putting limits on the number of rounds a gun can hold is a sad joke, certainly ways around that and any said laws would not be too effective. After awhile guns with ten rounds would be considered dangerous and face bans, then six shooters would eventually face the same etc. that's why those of us gun rights supporters are against the idea in the first place, it wouldn't work. I need to get back to sleep now...
MikeFlora comments on Jul 10, 2018:
70 plus million gun nuts wasn't what the founding fathers had in mind. It is because of twisting their words that made this happen. When they put their words to paper there were only 13 states, and they were using flintlock muskets.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 12, 2018:
@MikeFlora How many rounds a gun holds is another trivial issue. Any experienced shooter who say uses a six round revolver and has a few speed loaders on hand could do serious damage, just saying. Putting limits on the number of rounds a gun can hold is a sad joke, certainly ways around that and any said laws would not be too effective. After awhile guns with ten rounds would be considered dangerous and face bans, then six shooters would eventually face the same etc. that's why those of us gun rights supporters are against the idea in the first place, it wouldn't work. I need to get back to sleep now...
Something for our friends over on Mike's page to contemplate:
MikeFlora comments on Jul 10, 2018:
70 plus million gun nuts wasn't what the founding fathers had in mind. It is because of twisting their words that made this happen. When they put their words to paper there were only 13 states, and they were using flintlock muskets.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 12, 2018:
@MikeFlora I understand your concern, but said concern does not trump due process, you must prove beyond a doubt someone is incapable. That's how it works in this country when it comes to our Constitutional rights. Now, how to prevent tragedies is another story and a point I think we may be able to agree upon. While it may not be simple to determine who is and isn't responsible directly, the law could prosecute those who have been found to be negligent in their actions. However, I still don't think all "potential" accidents can be avoided. Accidents can occur with multiple different objects and tools, I can't help but think you are needlessly stressing yourself out over what could be, what could happen. Perhaps in the future a topic for discussion could be safety measures one could take like gun safes, locks etc?
MikeFlora comments on Jul 10, 2018:
70 plus million gun nuts wasn't what the founding fathers had in mind. It is because of twisting their words that made this happen. When they put their words to paper there were only 13 states, and they were using flintlock muskets.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 12, 2018:
@MikeFlora I understand your concern, but said concern does not trump due process, you must prove beyond a doubt someone is incapable. That's how it works in this country when it comes to our Constitutional rights. Now, how to prevent tragedies is another story and a point I think we may be able to agree upon. While it may not be simple to determine who is and isn't responsible directly, the law could prosecute those who have been found to be negligent in their actions. However, I still don't think all "potential" accidents can be avoided. Accidents can occur with multiple different objects and tools, I can't help but think you are needlessly stressing yourself out over what could be, what could happen. Perhaps in the future a topic for discussion could be safety measures one could take like gun safes, locks etc?
This gypsy of new Spain guy was complaining about how racist America is, then called me a cracker.
TheInterlooper comments on Jul 11, 2018:
I've come to the conclusion that liberals are projecting when they accuse conservatives of racism, sexism, etc.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 12, 2018:
@TheInterlooper Not to mention her deplorables comment. I can't stand that woman...
TheInterlooper comments on Jul 11, 2018:
I've come to the conclusion that liberals are projecting when they accuse conservatives of racism, sexism, etc.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 12, 2018:
@TheInterlooper Not to mention her deplorables comment. I can't stand that woman...
This gypsy of new Spain guy was complaining about how racist America is, then called me a cracker.
TheInterlooper comments on Jul 11, 2018:
I've come to the conclusion that liberals are projecting when they accuse conservatives of racism, sexism, etc.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 12, 2018:
@Beach_slim We need to do what we can to keep liberal progressive politicians out of office, and this November is critical. Healthcare is a lingering concern, but I think Trump is going to do some more damage to obabblecare yet.
TheInterlooper comments on Jul 11, 2018:
I've come to the conclusion that liberals are projecting when they accuse conservatives of racism, sexism, etc.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 12, 2018:
@Beach_slim We need to do what we can to keep liberal progressive politicians out of office, and this November is critical. Healthcare is a lingering concern, but I think Trump is going to do some more damage to obabblecare yet.
What's are you're thoughts on modern libertarianism vs democratic socialism
Captain_Feelgood comments on Jul 11, 2018:
I once was a Libertarian, or at least l thought l was, then l found out they're for open borders to any and all, and l realized they're just as fucked up as the Socialists and progressive Liberals.. Now l'm an unaffiliated free market Capitalist that leans EVER SO SLIGHTLY Libertarian.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 12, 2018:
@BBliberty I agree. It's not just a matter of where and how it's applied, but who exactly are the individual(s) behind such?
Captain_Feelgood comments on Jul 11, 2018:
I once was a Libertarian, or at least l thought l was, then l found out they're for open borders to any and all, and l realized they're just as fucked up as the Socialists and progressive Liberals.. Now l'm an unaffiliated free market Capitalist that leans EVER SO SLIGHTLY Libertarian.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 12, 2018:
@BBliberty I agree. It's not just a matter of where and how it's applied, but who exactly are the individual(s) behind such?
This gypsy of new Spain guy was complaining about how racist America is, then called me a cracker.
TheInterlooper comments on Jul 11, 2018:
I've come to the conclusion that liberals are projecting when they accuse conservatives of racism, sexism, etc.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 12, 2018:
@MikeFlora Eh, who cares, let them laugh. That's just me of course, but then again I never went through life worrying about what others thought about me. For what it's worth, at the very least some of those countries who point the finger at us and laugh have plenty of their own troubles to worry about.
TheInterlooper comments on Jul 11, 2018:
I've come to the conclusion that liberals are projecting when they accuse conservatives of racism, sexism, etc.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 12, 2018:
@MikeFlora Eh, who cares, let them laugh. That's just me of course, but then again I never went through life worrying about what others thought about me. For what it's worth, at the very least some of those countries who point the finger at us and laugh have plenty of their own troubles to worry about.
This gypsy of new Spain guy was complaining about how racist America is, then called me a cracker.
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 11, 2018:
I had that idiot blocked for some time now, he's a member of the gun control group. Another typical example of how intolerant those on the left are.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 12, 2018:
@MikeFlora Indeed...
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 11, 2018:
I had that idiot blocked for some time now, he's a member of the gun control group. Another typical example of how intolerant those on the left are.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 12, 2018:
@MikeFlora Indeed...
Something for our friends over on Mike's page to contemplate:
MikeFlora comments on Jul 10, 2018:
70 plus million gun nuts wasn't what the founding fathers had in mind. It is because of twisting their words that made this happen. When they put their words to paper there were only 13 states, and they were using flintlock muskets.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 12, 2018:
@MikeFlora It got them to surrender (quicker anyway), and given the fact they attacked us first, yes. Just my opinion.
MikeFlora comments on Jul 10, 2018:
70 plus million gun nuts wasn't what the founding fathers had in mind. It is because of twisting their words that made this happen. When they put their words to paper there were only 13 states, and they were using flintlock muskets.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 12, 2018:
@MikeFlora It got them to surrender (quicker anyway), and given the fact they attacked us first, yes. Just my opinion.
What's are you're thoughts on modern libertarianism vs democratic socialism
Captain_Feelgood comments on Jul 11, 2018:
I once was a Libertarian, or at least l thought l was, then l found out they're for open borders to any and all, and l realized they're just as fucked up as the Socialists and progressive Liberals.. Now l'm an unaffiliated free market Capitalist that leans EVER SO SLIGHTLY Libertarian.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 11, 2018:
Pretty much the same here. I'm borderlined libertarian, but are registered as Independent. With that said sir....would you at all be surprised if I told you my overall political views are...dare I say it...conservative? ;)
Captain_Feelgood comments on Jul 11, 2018:
I once was a Libertarian, or at least l thought l was, then l found out they're for open borders to any and all, and l realized they're just as fucked up as the Socialists and progressive Liberals.. Now l'm an unaffiliated free market Capitalist that leans EVER SO SLIGHTLY Libertarian.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 11, 2018:
Pretty much the same here. I'm borderlined libertarian, but are registered as Independent. With that said sir....would you at all be surprised if I told you my overall political views are...dare I say it...conservative? ;)
@Captain_Feelgood Thanks for sharing that video on the public threads, I did not know about the ...
bigpawbullets comments on Jul 11, 2018:
Interesting article. I wonder what percentage of the democratic party these folks are.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 11, 2018:
@Captain_Feelgood I didn't receive any messages from you in awhile...
bigpawbullets comments on Jul 11, 2018:
Interesting article. I wonder what percentage of the democratic party these folks are.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 11, 2018:
@Captain_Feelgood I didn't receive any messages from you in awhile...
@Captain_Feelgood Thanks for sharing that video on the public threads, I did not know about the ...
bigpawbullets comments on Jul 11, 2018:
Interesting article. I wonder what percentage of the democratic party these folks are.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 11, 2018:
@Captain_Feelgood So in other words, said wave is getting bigger and bigger... Indeed, hope springs eternal.
bigpawbullets comments on Jul 11, 2018:
Interesting article. I wonder what percentage of the democratic party these folks are.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 11, 2018:
@Captain_Feelgood So in other words, said wave is getting bigger and bigger... Indeed, hope springs eternal.
I remember some folks talking about this while Obabble was still President, but I sure didn't hear ...
DUCHESSA comments on Jul 11, 2018:
Ja...I am being belted in the general section for posting the meme. juassssssss
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 11, 2018:
I saw. The one guy in particular didn't like what you had shared, but you corrected his crude assumption. That guy is a typical radical lefty, if you say something he doesn't agree with you're just a troll in his narrow-minded opinion.
DUCHESSA comments on Jul 11, 2018:
Ja...I am being belted in the general section for posting the meme. juassssssss
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 11, 2018:
I saw. The one guy in particular didn't like what you had shared, but you corrected his crude assumption. That guy is a typical radical lefty, if you say something he doesn't agree with you're just a troll in his narrow-minded opinion.
Testing out the new website colors! After a lot of work, we are rolling out the ability to change ...
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 11, 2018:
Dark Night.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 11, 2018:
@cmadler Yeah, only Android for me, I like a platform that allows for after market customization.
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 11, 2018:
Dark Night.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 11, 2018:
@cmadler Yeah, only Android for me, I like a platform that allows for after market customization.
Testing out the new website colors! After a lot of work, we are rolling out the ability to change ...
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 11, 2018:
Dark Night.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 11, 2018:
You will eventually implement the colors option in the mobile app, correct?
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 11, 2018:
Dark Night.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 11, 2018:
You will eventually implement the colors option in the mobile app, correct?
Let us count heads....
jeshuey comments on Jul 11, 2018:
Department of Health and Human Services' (HHS) Administration for Children and Families spokesperson Kenneth Wolfe told Newsweek on Wednesday that it had as many as 10,852 undocumented children in its custody—a significant jump from the 8,886 that were in the agency's custody on April 29, ...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 11, 2018:
No excuses were made, the point of the meme above was to show how little outrage there was during the Obama years as compared to now. Read that meme very carefully, only a comparison was illustrated, no excuses. Are such actions justifiable, would be another topic of discussion...
jeshuey comments on Jul 11, 2018:
Department of Health and Human Services' (HHS) Administration for Children and Families spokesperson Kenneth Wolfe told Newsweek on Wednesday that it had as many as 10,852 undocumented children in its custody—a significant jump from the 8,886 that were in the agency's custody on April 29, ...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 11, 2018:
No excuses were made, the point of the meme above was to show how little outrage there was during the Obama years as compared to now. Read that meme very carefully, only a comparison was illustrated, no excuses. Are such actions justifiable, would be another topic of discussion...
This gypsy of new Spain guy was complaining about how racist America is, then called me a cracker.
TheInterlooper comments on Jul 11, 2018:
I've come to the conclusion that liberals are projecting when they accuse conservatives of racism, sexism, etc.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 11, 2018:
Solid conclusion there, I agree.
TheInterlooper comments on Jul 11, 2018:
I've come to the conclusion that liberals are projecting when they accuse conservatives of racism, sexism, etc.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 11, 2018:
Solid conclusion there, I agree.
I remember some folks talking about this while Obabble was still President, but I sure didn't hear ...
DUCHESSA comments on Jul 11, 2018:
Can I steal the meme and post it in the general section?
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 11, 2018:
Sure.
DUCHESSA comments on Jul 11, 2018:
Can I steal the meme and post it in the general section?
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 11, 2018:
Sure.
The liberal progressives are such a tolerant and forgiving bunch.
LEPeff comments on Jul 11, 2018:
I think that is a great idea!
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 11, 2018:
Thank you for the feedback, LEPeff. The history of the Federalist Party is fascinating, and that group I have in mind could accomodate both those who may be interested in advocacy efforts or for those who would only be interested in the historical part, a dual purpose group. The two-party system isn't cutting it, and as much as I like them I have a feeling the Libertarian Party won't be able to gain enough traction to be able to make a difference. The views of the new Federalist Party lean heavily to the right, and the Constitution is their guide, sure sounds promising to me.
LEPeff comments on Jul 11, 2018:
I think that is a great idea!
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 11, 2018:
Thank you for the feedback, LEPeff. The history of the Federalist Party is fascinating, and that group I have in mind could accomodate both those who may be interested in advocacy efforts or for those who would only be interested in the historical part, a dual purpose group. The two-party system isn't cutting it, and as much as I like them I have a feeling the Libertarian Party won't be able to gain enough traction to be able to make a difference. The views of the new Federalist Party lean heavily to the right, and the Constitution is their guide, sure sounds promising to me.
Something for our friends over on Mike's page to contemplate:
MikeFlora comments on Jul 10, 2018:
70 plus million gun nuts wasn't what the founding fathers had in mind. It is because of twisting their words that made this happen. When they put their words to paper there were only 13 states, and they were using flintlock muskets.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@MikeFlora I get ya on that, nuclear warheads are an even bigger concern though...
MikeFlora comments on Jul 10, 2018:
70 plus million gun nuts wasn't what the founding fathers had in mind. It is because of twisting their words that made this happen. When they put their words to paper there were only 13 states, and they were using flintlock muskets.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@MikeFlora I get ya on that, nuclear warheads are an even bigger concern though...
Something for our friends over on Mike's page to contemplate:
MikeFlora comments on Jul 10, 2018:
70 plus million gun nuts wasn't what the founding fathers had in mind. It is because of twisting their words that made this happen. When they put their words to paper there were only 13 states, and they were using flintlock muskets.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@MikeFlora There is this thing called due process, you cannot conveniently bypass that based on suspicion or unique circumstances, you must prove I am unfit to own certain firearms as you are the one making the claim. A history teacher would be better, and there are ample quotes/other sources from various Founding Fathers that suggested all citizens have the right to own the same weapons their government has, just because times change does not mean that changes. You still didn't answer my question, why do Democrats by large go after private citizens and tell them certain guns they cannot own and yet have nothing to say about the arsenal our government possesses, including weapons that don't just kill from a mile away like guns do but rather warheads that could travel half way around the world. Does that not concern you? I'm telling ya Mike, you really should worry more about the arsenal our government has as opposed to what us private citizens own. To answer your question (although you somewhat answered it on your own), there might not be a way to prove such responsibility, but in the meantime due process cannot by circumvented based on what could be, there are alot of scenarios that could be. If we regulate one thing, then before you know it other things start getting regulated, and that's not what this country needs. Do you have any idea how dangerous a lighter is in the hands of a child? Yet, I don't hear democrats talking about that. If it's about saving lives, then be fair and name/regulate all the potential things that could harm innocents, but regulating everything is absurd. As a teenager I became repulsed at the Democrat's ways always wanting to regulate things they don't like or trust, we don't live in a nanny state.
MikeFlora comments on Jul 10, 2018:
70 plus million gun nuts wasn't what the founding fathers had in mind. It is because of twisting their words that made this happen. When they put their words to paper there were only 13 states, and they were using flintlock muskets.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@MikeFlora There is this thing called due process, you cannot conveniently bypass that based on suspicion or unique circumstances, you must prove I am unfit to own certain firearms as you are the one making the claim. A history teacher would be better, and there are ample quotes/other sources from various Founding Fathers that suggested all citizens have the right to own the same weapons their government has, just because times change does not mean that changes. You still didn't answer my question, why do Democrats by large go after private citizens and tell them certain guns they cannot own and yet have nothing to say about the arsenal our government possesses, including weapons that don't just kill from a mile away like guns do but rather warheads that could travel half way around the world. Does that not concern you? I'm telling ya Mike, you really should worry more about the arsenal our government has as opposed to what us private citizens own. To answer your question (although you somewhat answered it on your own), there might not be a way to prove such responsibility, but in the meantime due process cannot by circumvented based on what could be, there are alot of scenarios that could be. If we regulate one thing, then before you know it other things start getting regulated, and that's not what this country needs. Do you have any idea how dangerous a lighter is in the hands of a child? Yet, I don't hear democrats talking about that. If it's about saving lives, then be fair and name/regulate all the potential things that could harm innocents, but regulating everything is absurd. As a teenager I became repulsed at the Democrat's ways always wanting to regulate things they don't like or trust, we don't live in a nanny state.
Trumps new Supreme Court nominee should be a good one, especially for the 2nd amendment.
DarrelScott comments on Jul 10, 2018:
That's the best news I've heard lately
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@DUCHESSA That's a good point...
DarrelScott comments on Jul 10, 2018:
That's the best news I've heard lately
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@DUCHESSA That's a good point...
Something for our friends over on Mike's page to contemplate:
MikeFlora comments on Jul 10, 2018:
70 plus million gun nuts wasn't what the founding fathers had in mind. It is because of twisting their words that made this happen. When they put their words to paper there were only 13 states, and they were using flintlock muskets.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@MikeFlora I wouldn't say that, alot of families back then were rather large in size and children were conceivably present often, and there is no telling how many accidents there were back then because no records were kept for the most part. The part that gets me is folks who cry over gun related deaths but often never have anything to say over deaths that resulted by other weapons. If saving lives from guns is the goal, why not have the same concern about deaths from other sources that could be preventable. If your only argument is that guns are uniquely dangerous, you need another argument, and that tells me an agenda is in play there and concern over human fatalities would at best be a secondary consideration. Of course, I'm not for excess regulations because they by and large would not make enough difference as some folks out there have no regards for the laws and find ways to get around said laws. I've been trying to explain just that to the gun control crowd now for years, but for some reason that point never seems to be understood by them.
MikeFlora comments on Jul 10, 2018:
70 plus million gun nuts wasn't what the founding fathers had in mind. It is because of twisting their words that made this happen. When they put their words to paper there were only 13 states, and they were using flintlock muskets.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@MikeFlora I wouldn't say that, alot of families back then were rather large in size and children were conceivably present often, and there is no telling how many accidents there were back then because no records were kept for the most part. The part that gets me is folks who cry over gun related deaths but often never have anything to say over deaths that resulted by other weapons. If saving lives from guns is the goal, why not have the same concern about deaths from other sources that could be preventable. If your only argument is that guns are uniquely dangerous, you need another argument, and that tells me an agenda is in play there and concern over human fatalities would at best be a secondary consideration. Of course, I'm not for excess regulations because they by and large would not make enough difference as some folks out there have no regards for the laws and find ways to get around said laws. I've been trying to explain just that to the gun control crowd now for years, but for some reason that point never seems to be understood by them.
Something for our friends over on Mike's page to contemplate:
MikeFlora comments on Jul 10, 2018:
70 plus million gun nuts wasn't what the founding fathers had in mind. It is because of twisting their words that made this happen. When they put their words to paper there were only 13 states, and they were using flintlock muskets.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@MikeFlora Who makes english teachers experts on that topic? Just because it included the militia part does not change the goal for it, and on the contrary nothing about limitations is explicitly mentioned. In the very beginning there was no organized military/militia branches, only citizen soldiers who eventually organized into a fighting force. This is supposed to be a free country, and no where in the Constitution does it specifically say about limitations on what people can or cannot own, please to point out to me otherwise. As a free man I resent anyone telling me what I can and cannot own (and that means anything) as long as I'm not bothering anyone, because they may have fears that are unfounded. Also, our government was never meant to be a regulating force that is has become nowadays, we have far too many regulations as it is while big brother gets away with just about everything. How is that balanced? Why can someone in government have more rights than I, especially knowing what screwballs some of them are? That's the problem I have, too many folks think the answer to our problems is to regulate it out of existence, and doing so does not automatically solve said issues.
MikeFlora comments on Jul 10, 2018:
70 plus million gun nuts wasn't what the founding fathers had in mind. It is because of twisting their words that made this happen. When they put their words to paper there were only 13 states, and they were using flintlock muskets.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@MikeFlora Who makes english teachers experts on that topic? Just because it included the militia part does not change the goal for it, and on the contrary nothing about limitations is explicitly mentioned. In the very beginning there was no organized military/militia branches, only citizen soldiers who eventually organized into a fighting force. This is supposed to be a free country, and no where in the Constitution does it specifically say about limitations on what people can or cannot own, please to point out to me otherwise. As a free man I resent anyone telling me what I can and cannot own (and that means anything) as long as I'm not bothering anyone, because they may have fears that are unfounded. Also, our government was never meant to be a regulating force that is has become nowadays, we have far too many regulations as it is while big brother gets away with just about everything. How is that balanced? Why can someone in government have more rights than I, especially knowing what screwballs some of them are? That's the problem I have, too many folks think the answer to our problems is to regulate it out of existence, and doing so does not automatically solve said issues.
Trumps new Supreme Court nominee should be a good one, especially for the 2nd amendment.
DarrelScott comments on Jul 10, 2018:
That's the best news I've heard lately
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@DUCHESSA The religious men for sure would love to abolish abortion. It figures the church would be getting in the way of passing the bill, one of the many reasons why religion should never be allowed to interfere in politics. I too hope Trajan is right about that much.
DarrelScott comments on Jul 10, 2018:
That's the best news I've heard lately
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@DUCHESSA The religious men for sure would love to abolish abortion. It figures the church would be getting in the way of passing the bill, one of the many reasons why religion should never be allowed to interfere in politics. I too hope Trajan is right about that much.
Trumps new Supreme Court nominee should be a good one, especially for the 2nd amendment.
DarrelScott comments on Jul 10, 2018:
That's the best news I've heard lately
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@DUCHESSA It would be a mess, one could only hope they are smart enough not to mess around with such foolish notions, but that may be asking for too much...
DarrelScott comments on Jul 10, 2018:
That's the best news I've heard lately
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@DUCHESSA It would be a mess, one could only hope they are smart enough not to mess around with such foolish notions, but that may be asking for too much...
Trumps new Supreme Court nominee should be a good one, especially for the 2nd amendment.
DarrelScott comments on Jul 10, 2018:
That's the best news I've heard lately
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@DUCHESSA I meant personal choices for everyone, not just abortion, the government has no right to interfere with personal decisions. I strayed a little off topic there, when it comes to abortion only that is strictly a woman's choice in the end.
DarrelScott comments on Jul 10, 2018:
That's the best news I've heard lately
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@DUCHESSA I meant personal choices for everyone, not just abortion, the government has no right to interfere with personal decisions. I strayed a little off topic there, when it comes to abortion only that is strictly a woman's choice in the end.
I really want to move to canada.
bigpawbullets comments on Jul 10, 2018:
We're here to assist!
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
We'll need more than one truck though...
bigpawbullets comments on Jul 10, 2018:
We're here to assist!
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
We'll need more than one truck though...
Something for our friends over on Mike's page to contemplate:
MikeFlora comments on Jul 10, 2018:
70 plus million gun nuts wasn't what the founding fathers had in mind. It is because of twisting their words that made this happen. When they put their words to paper there were only 13 states, and they were using flintlock muskets.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
The only people who have distorted what the 2A states are those in favor of amending it. Flintlocks were not the only technology at that time-http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/07/logan-metesh/founding-fathers-knew-repeating-rifles-bill-rights-drafted/amp/
This is why people need to do independent research. Semi-auto firearm technology was a concept the Founders were well aware of that could be improved upon down the road in the future. The 2A does not in any way state the type of guns citizens can and cannot own, but it does say the right to bear arms shall not be infringed, and arms is another word for guns and actually weapons in general. @Captain_Feelgood @bigpawbullets
MikeFlora comments on Jul 10, 2018:
70 plus million gun nuts wasn't what the founding fathers had in mind. It is because of twisting their words that made this happen. When they put their words to paper there were only 13 states, and they were using flintlock muskets.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
The only people who have distorted what the 2A states are those in favor of amending it. Flintlocks were not the only technology at that time-http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/07/logan-metesh/founding-fathers-knew-repeating-rifles-bill-rights-drafted/amp/
This is why people need to do independent research. Semi-auto firearm technology was a concept the Founders were well aware of that could be improved upon down the road in the future. The 2A does not in any way state the type of guns citizens can and cannot own, but it does say the right to bear arms shall not be infringed, and arms is another word for guns and actually weapons in general. @Captain_Feelgood @bigpawbullets
This was shared in g:447 and shared on the public threads as well.
MikeFlora comments on Jul 9, 2018:
Virtually no vetting process is a total lie, besides the fact that trying to kill someone with a illegal alien is really hard to do. They make up 3% of the population, and are doing the same thing most of our ancestors did when they came here. How about worrying about the other 97% for a change?
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@MikeFlora Mike, I'm not too keen on censoring people here unless something criminal is suggested, but all the same that means anyone else in this group is entitled to their opinions and I will not stop them, and some will not be eager to coddle others. Just keep that in mind, when you interact in this group you will be around everyone in the group who is active. I have no problem for the most part with you commenting on my posts, and I have no problem with Buck commenting either and are glad he is active on here, and this was one of my posts. Just saying...
MikeFlora comments on Jul 9, 2018:
Virtually no vetting process is a total lie, besides the fact that trying to kill someone with a illegal alien is really hard to do. They make up 3% of the population, and are doing the same thing most of our ancestors did when they came here. How about worrying about the other 97% for a change?
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@MikeFlora Mike, I'm not too keen on censoring people here unless something criminal is suggested, but all the same that means anyone else in this group is entitled to their opinions and I will not stop them, and some will not be eager to coddle others. Just keep that in mind, when you interact in this group you will be around everyone in the group who is active. I have no problem for the most part with you commenting on my posts, and I have no problem with Buck commenting either and are glad he is active on here, and this was one of my posts. Just saying...
This was shared in g:447 and shared on the public threads as well.
MikeFlora comments on Jul 9, 2018:
Virtually no vetting process is a total lie, besides the fact that trying to kill someone with a illegal alien is really hard to do. They make up 3% of the population, and are doing the same thing most of our ancestors did when they came here. How about worrying about the other 97% for a change?
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@MikeFlora I don't think any President in recent times for that matter had instilled confidence in other countries, and for what it's worth alot of the leaders in other countries are two-faced as well, such is politics...
MikeFlora comments on Jul 9, 2018:
Virtually no vetting process is a total lie, besides the fact that trying to kill someone with a illegal alien is really hard to do. They make up 3% of the population, and are doing the same thing most of our ancestors did when they came here. How about worrying about the other 97% for a change?
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@MikeFlora I don't think any President in recent times for that matter had instilled confidence in other countries, and for what it's worth alot of the leaders in other countries are two-faced as well, such is politics...
Trumps new Supreme Court nominee should be a good one, especially for the 2nd amendment.
DarrelScott comments on Jul 10, 2018:
That's the best news I've heard lately
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@DUCHESSA https://amp.businessinsider.com/brett-kavanaugh-roe-vs-wade-abortion-case-undocumented-teen-2018-7
While I do agree with and like what the Federalist Society believes in and does, I do find myself at odds with them over reproductive rights. As one who believes in individual liberty, I think reproductive choices should be strictly made by couples themselves and government should keep their noses out of "bedroom business". An attack on reproductive choices, is an attack on individual liberty as I see it.
DarrelScott comments on Jul 10, 2018:
That's the best news I've heard lately
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@DUCHESSA https://amp.businessinsider.com/brett-kavanaugh-roe-vs-wade-abortion-case-undocumented-teen-2018-7
While I do agree with and like what the Federalist Society believes in and does, I do find myself at odds with them over reproductive rights. As one who believes in individual liberty, I think reproductive choices should be strictly made by couples themselves and government should keep their noses out of "bedroom business". An attack on reproductive choices, is an attack on individual liberty as I see it.
Trumps new Supreme Court nominee should be a good one, especially for the 2nd amendment.
MikeFlora comments on Jul 10, 2018:
What about Roe v Wade?
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
https://amp.businessinsider.com/brett-kavanaugh-roe-vs-wade-abortion-case-undocumented-teen-2018-7
MikeFlora comments on Jul 10, 2018:
What about Roe v Wade?
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
https://amp.businessinsider.com/brett-kavanaugh-roe-vs-wade-abortion-case-undocumented-teen-2018-7
The right wing often forgets...
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 9, 2018:
Not all of us on the right go by that horrid book... Some of us conservatives believe in logic and reasoning.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@snytiger6 I'm doing just that, it may take time but will be worth it in the end.
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 9, 2018:
Not all of us on the right go by that horrid book... Some of us conservatives believe in logic and reasoning.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@snytiger6 I'm doing just that, it may take time but will be worth it in the end.
The thought process of some of our non-conservative acquaintances:
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 10, 2018:
I think someone else had posted this...seems to be true though.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@bigpawbullets All good.
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 10, 2018:
I think someone else had posted this...seems to be true though.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@bigpawbullets All good.
This was shared in g:447 and shared on the public threads as well.
buck1977 comments on Jul 9, 2018:
You mistakenly assume their agenda would involve protecting freedom, opportunity and safety...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
I'm inclined to agree with this...
buck1977 comments on Jul 9, 2018:
You mistakenly assume their agenda would involve protecting freedom, opportunity and safety...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
I'm inclined to agree with this...
So, a new Supreme Court justice is in the making.
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 10, 2018:
Indeed, and I am one of those who is on the political right, however I do fully support reproductive rights for all.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@MissaDixon ...Totally.
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 10, 2018:
Indeed, and I am one of those who is on the political right, however I do fully support reproductive rights for all.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@MissaDixon ...Totally.
Face palm anyone?
MikeFlora comments on Jul 9, 2018:
More guns will just get people killed on both sides of the room.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@MikeFlora Right again, too many people these days do not want to communicate with each other because in doing so may not always be easy to accomplish at times. The last part of your comment is what we as a whole, as a society, need to work on. I just left a rather long reply on the other post and I'm tired now, tomorrow is another day, later.
MikeFlora comments on Jul 9, 2018:
More guns will just get people killed on both sides of the room.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@MikeFlora Right again, too many people these days do not want to communicate with each other because in doing so may not always be easy to accomplish at times. The last part of your comment is what we as a whole, as a society, need to work on. I just left a rather long reply on the other post and I'm tired now, tomorrow is another day, later.
This was shared in g:447 and shared on the public threads as well.
MikeFlora comments on Jul 9, 2018:
Virtually no vetting process is a total lie, besides the fact that trying to kill someone with a illegal alien is really hard to do. They make up 3% of the population, and are doing the same thing most of our ancestors did when they came here. How about worrying about the other 97% for a change?
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@MikeFlora That's the thing though, not all of them who have been living here for years have been filing taxes, but again that's another part of the story as a whole. You also have to keep in mind the times we live in, in particular terrorism, which our ancestors did not have to worry about for the most part. We can't just let anyone in, some could mean us serious harm, but most Democrats do not take that into consideration. We don't have alot of difficulty with Europeans, but we do with those from the middle east/Mexican and south american drug cartels/and certain diseases that come from Africa, please keep that in mind as to why we scrutinize some countries more than others because some pose a larger immediate threat. Building a wall on the border does not mean we won't accept others into the country, it only means we will defend said borders from those with ill intentions. Besides, that with the Statue of Liberty always sounded like a bunch or religious sounding nonsense to me. I forgot to mention something on my other post, so I'll bring it up here real quick. Another problem we face these days is not only a lack of communication, but emotions running high which can cloud better judgment. One of the many reasons I abandoned religion is that emotions tend to take over all too often and common sense along with deep thinking go out the window. I understand this may be difficult to do sometimes Mike, but you've got to fight your emotions and put deeper thinking to the front of the line so to speak. Too many people these days get dictated by their first emotions, which more often than not has led to some bad decision making. I know what I'm talking about there, as a kid who didn't know better I used to let emotions do the thinking for me, but I snapped out of it eventually and to this day my life is better because of it. You and anyone else could do the same if I can, fight it Mike, let independent thinking lead your way in life. I'm tired now, later.
MikeFlora comments on Jul 9, 2018:
Virtually no vetting process is a total lie, besides the fact that trying to kill someone with a illegal alien is really hard to do. They make up 3% of the population, and are doing the same thing most of our ancestors did when they came here. How about worrying about the other 97% for a change?
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@MikeFlora That's the thing though, not all of them who have been living here for years have been filing taxes, but again that's another part of the story as a whole. You also have to keep in mind the times we live in, in particular terrorism, which our ancestors did not have to worry about for the most part. We can't just let anyone in, some could mean us serious harm, but most Democrats do not take that into consideration. We don't have alot of difficulty with Europeans, but we do with those from the middle east/Mexican and south american drug cartels/and certain diseases that come from Africa, please keep that in mind as to why we scrutinize some countries more than others because some pose a larger immediate threat. Building a wall on the border does not mean we won't accept others into the country, it only means we will defend said borders from those with ill intentions. Besides, that with the Statue of Liberty always sounded like a bunch or religious sounding nonsense to me. I forgot to mention something on my other post, so I'll bring it up here real quick. Another problem we face these days is not only a lack of communication, but emotions running high which can cloud better judgment. One of the many reasons I abandoned religion is that emotions tend to take over all too often and common sense along with deep thinking go out the window. I understand this may be difficult to do sometimes Mike, but you've got to fight your emotions and put deeper thinking to the front of the line so to speak. Too many people these days get dictated by their first emotions, which more often than not has led to some bad decision making. I know what I'm talking about there, as a kid who didn't know better I used to let emotions do the thinking for me, but I snapped out of it eventually and to this day my life is better because of it. You and anyone else could do the same if I can, fight it Mike, let independent thinking lead your way in life. I'm tired now, later.
Face palm anyone?
MikeFlora comments on Jul 9, 2018:
More guns will just get people killed on both sides of the room.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@MikeFlora Bingo Mike, the problems we face in this country go way beyond gun control. If we want to get to the root of the problem, we need to all come to a general understanding, and in particular we need to work on ways to reach out to those who may suffer from mental illness and or depression etc. No amount of gun control measures the Democrats currently propose would directly deal with such situations, which is why I do not buy into gun control measures. Understanding human nature is key, and keeping communication open to everyone. Now we might be getting somewhere...
MikeFlora comments on Jul 9, 2018:
More guns will just get people killed on both sides of the room.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@MikeFlora Bingo Mike, the problems we face in this country go way beyond gun control. If we want to get to the root of the problem, we need to all come to a general understanding, and in particular we need to work on ways to reach out to those who may suffer from mental illness and or depression etc. No amount of gun control measures the Democrats currently propose would directly deal with such situations, which is why I do not buy into gun control measures. Understanding human nature is key, and keeping communication open to everyone. Now we might be getting somewhere...
This was shared in g:447 and shared on the public threads as well.
MikeFlora comments on Jul 9, 2018:
Virtually no vetting process is a total lie, besides the fact that trying to kill someone with a illegal alien is really hard to do. They make up 3% of the population, and are doing the same thing most of our ancestors did when they came here. How about worrying about the other 97% for a change?
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@MikeFlora That's the thing, too many of them do and have committed crimes, and the financial toll on this country from undocumented workers is a whole other story for another time. It does matter to have the proper credentials to enter our country, why is that such a hardship for some? When my ancestors came to the US from Italy Germany and a few other places, they made sure they did everything they had to according to the law, including the right paperwork, and most of them did not even speak good english.
MikeFlora comments on Jul 9, 2018:
Virtually no vetting process is a total lie, besides the fact that trying to kill someone with a illegal alien is really hard to do. They make up 3% of the population, and are doing the same thing most of our ancestors did when they came here. How about worrying about the other 97% for a change?
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@MikeFlora That's the thing, too many of them do and have committed crimes, and the financial toll on this country from undocumented workers is a whole other story for another time. It does matter to have the proper credentials to enter our country, why is that such a hardship for some? When my ancestors came to the US from Italy Germany and a few other places, they made sure they did everything they had to according to the law, including the right paperwork, and most of them did not even speak good english.
Face palm anyone?
MikeFlora comments on Jul 9, 2018:
More guns will just get people killed on both sides of the room.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@MikeFlora That would be ideal to keep lunatics away from innocent people, but not always practical in all circumstances. I know there's a difference between a live and inanimate target, and personally I wouldn't find it too difficult to shoot back at someone who wants to see me dead. There are alot of potential situations that could involve people getting seriously injured or killed, and we as a whole cannot dwell on that. Take the Maryland Gazette shooting a few weeks back, no one was prepared for a shooting and no one in the building was armed not even one, and five people were killed because of that. If just one person was armed there the story may have turned out different and the shooter six feet under. I have no need to live my life in fear as I'm prepared for worst case scenarios, and life is pretty good.
MikeFlora comments on Jul 9, 2018:
More guns will just get people killed on both sides of the room.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 10, 2018:
@MikeFlora That would be ideal to keep lunatics away from innocent people, but not always practical in all circumstances. I know there's a difference between a live and inanimate target, and personally I wouldn't find it too difficult to shoot back at someone who wants to see me dead. There are alot of potential situations that could involve people getting seriously injured or killed, and we as a whole cannot dwell on that. Take the Maryland Gazette shooting a few weeks back, no one was prepared for a shooting and no one in the building was armed not even one, and five people were killed because of that. If just one person was armed there the story may have turned out different and the shooter six feet under. I have no need to live my life in fear as I'm prepared for worst case scenarios, and life is pretty good.
This was shared in g:447 and shared on the public threads as well.
MikeFlora comments on Jul 9, 2018:
Virtually no vetting process is a total lie, besides the fact that trying to kill someone with a illegal alien is really hard to do. They make up 3% of the population, and are doing the same thing most of our ancestors did when they came here. How about worrying about the other 97% for a change?
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 9, 2018:
If you feel one life lost to a gun is one life too many, than just one life lost at the hands of an illegal immigrant is too much, what's fair is fair, and that meme didn't even delve into how illegals are a hardship to our country financially speaking. The mainstream medias cover the fact that the issue over immigration is because there is a huge problem with undocumented folks coming across our borders, and alot of Democrats have openly stated they do not want borders for our country which not only violates the laws but is also an insane idea. A good friend of mine came here to our country from Mexico, but he did it legally, and thus faced no difficulty from the Feds. If all immigrants sought to come here legally, then there would be no problem. Right back to square one...
MikeFlora comments on Jul 9, 2018:
Virtually no vetting process is a total lie, besides the fact that trying to kill someone with a illegal alien is really hard to do. They make up 3% of the population, and are doing the same thing most of our ancestors did when they came here. How about worrying about the other 97% for a change?
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 9, 2018:
If you feel one life lost to a gun is one life too many, than just one life lost at the hands of an illegal immigrant is too much, what's fair is fair, and that meme didn't even delve into how illegals are a hardship to our country financially speaking. The mainstream medias cover the fact that the issue over immigration is because there is a huge problem with undocumented folks coming across our borders, and alot of Democrats have openly stated they do not want borders for our country which not only violates the laws but is also an insane idea. A good friend of mine came here to our country from Mexico, but he did it legally, and thus faced no difficulty from the Feds. If all immigrants sought to come here legally, then there would be no problem. Right back to square one...
Face palm anyone?
Omen6Actual comments on Jul 9, 2018:
I'll remember that the next time I'm in a firefight.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 9, 2018:
I sincerely hope if Mr Ulibarri ever finds himself in such an unfortunate scenario that he takes his own advice.
Omen6Actual comments on Jul 9, 2018:
I'll remember that the next time I'm in a firefight.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 9, 2018:
I sincerely hope if Mr Ulibarri ever finds himself in such an unfortunate scenario that he takes his own advice.
Face palm anyone?
MikeFlora comments on Jul 9, 2018:
More guns will just get people killed on both sides of the room.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 9, 2018:
So, in other words you actually agree with the guy above? Also, how do you automatically know for sure that people being armed (as suggested in scenario in meme) would equate to more people getting killed. Curiosity abounds Mike, if faced with such a situation like that, would you just stand around waiting for help to arrive and hope not to get killed in the process? Serious question there, self defense is instictual, organic life is wired to preserve their/its life. The victim mentality from the left baffles me to no end, and I'm honestly not trying to be mean or condescending, just baffled is all.
MikeFlora comments on Jul 9, 2018:
More guns will just get people killed on both sides of the room.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 9, 2018:
So, in other words you actually agree with the guy above? Also, how do you automatically know for sure that people being armed (as suggested in scenario in meme) would equate to more people getting killed. Curiosity abounds Mike, if faced with such a situation like that, would you just stand around waiting for help to arrive and hope not to get killed in the process? Serious question there, self defense is instictual, organic life is wired to preserve their/its life. The victim mentality from the left baffles me to no end, and I'm honestly not trying to be mean or condescending, just baffled is all.
This was shared in g:447 and shared on the public threads as well.
buck1977 comments on Jul 9, 2018:
You mistakenly assume their agenda would involve protecting freedom, opportunity and safety...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 9, 2018:
Neither of which they are for of course... criminals helping criminals.
buck1977 comments on Jul 9, 2018:
You mistakenly assume their agenda would involve protecting freedom, opportunity and safety...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 9, 2018:
Neither of which they are for of course... criminals helping criminals.
Do you guys believe that Trump supporters should be treated with civility?
snytiger6 comments on Jul 7, 2018:
Only if they also treat others with the same civility they want for themselves... Of cours epeopel who act civil are seldom Trump supporters.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 9, 2018:
@snytiger6 There is a group called Repubatheists that is trying to pushback against the religious influence currently in the GOP. I hope someday they are successful, religion does not belong in our politics, never.
snytiger6 comments on Jul 7, 2018:
Only if they also treat others with the same civility they want for themselves... Of cours epeopel who act civil are seldom Trump supporters.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 9, 2018:
@snytiger6 There is a group called Repubatheists that is trying to pushback against the religious influence currently in the GOP. I hope someday they are successful, religion does not belong in our politics, never.
Have a great week my friends
McVinegar comments on Jul 9, 2018:
What's Monday? ;)
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 9, 2018:
It's that despicable day that reminds us every weekend eventually comes to an end.
McVinegar comments on Jul 9, 2018:
What's Monday? ;)
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 9, 2018:
It's that despicable day that reminds us every weekend eventually comes to an end.
If you do facebook, this is a fun page.
[facebook.com]
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 8, 2018:
Eh, no FB for me...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 9, 2018:
@Captain_Feelgood I might have to go that route.
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 8, 2018:
Eh, no FB for me...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 9, 2018:
@Captain_Feelgood I might have to go that route.
If you do facebook, this is a fun page.
[facebook.com]
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 8, 2018:
Eh, no FB for me...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 9, 2018:
@Captain_Feelgood I did a post in the Senate, hopefully he will clear it up and calm that dude down before he has a freaking aneurysm. I came to this site to interact with rational skeptics, not conspiracy central.
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 8, 2018:
Eh, no FB for me...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 9, 2018:
@Captain_Feelgood I did a post in the Senate, hopefully he will clear it up and calm that dude down before he has a freaking aneurysm. I came to this site to interact with rational skeptics, not conspiracy central.
If you do facebook, this is a fun page.
[facebook.com]
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 8, 2018:
Eh, no FB for me...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 9, 2018:
@Captain_Feelgood In due time I'm sure. One of the lefties on here is publicly accusing me of conspiring to send funds to Admin, which is bs. I'm into Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general, and Admin on here wants to delve into it too so I offered to send him a little to help get him started with trading and all. The creep accusing me misunderstood my comment and is making a big deal over nothing. The lefties on here crack me up, I'm waiting for this site to turn into conspiracy central now, some folks take things to the extreme.
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 8, 2018:
Eh, no FB for me...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 9, 2018:
@Captain_Feelgood In due time I'm sure. One of the lefties on here is publicly accusing me of conspiring to send funds to Admin, which is bs. I'm into Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general, and Admin on here wants to delve into it too so I offered to send him a little to help get him started with trading and all. The creep accusing me misunderstood my comment and is making a big deal over nothing. The lefties on here crack me up, I'm waiting for this site to turn into conspiracy central now, some folks take things to the extreme.
I am a little bit country.[youtu.be]
Shelton comments on Jul 8, 2018:
https://youtu.be/etr7UtnUflM
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 8, 2018:
Hootie and the Blowfish...
Shelton comments on Jul 8, 2018:
https://youtu.be/etr7UtnUflM
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 8, 2018:
Hootie and the Blowfish...
I thought about going the private message route for this, but figured it was easier just posting ...
mosuper comments on Jul 6, 2018:
The tolerance of the athiests.......
I think I have given up on athiests being tolerant. Sure, the hyper-religious are not tolerant, but generally speaking, I think the religious are much more tolerant than atheists. And, I am quite sure that the militant atheists are much worse than the militant ...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 8, 2018:
@mosuper "Libertarian Agnostics Group"
mosuper comments on Jul 6, 2018:
The tolerance of the athiests.......
I think I have given up on athiests being tolerant. Sure, the hyper-religious are not tolerant, but generally speaking, I think the religious are much more tolerant than atheists. And, I am quite sure that the militant atheists are much worse than the militant ...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 8, 2018:
@mosuper "Libertarian Agnostics Group"
I thought about going the private message route for this, but figured it was easier just posting ...
mosuper comments on Jul 6, 2018:
The tolerance of the athiests.......
I think I have given up on athiests being tolerant. Sure, the hyper-religious are not tolerant, but generally speaking, I think the religious are much more tolerant than atheists. And, I am quite sure that the militant atheists are much worse than the militant ...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 8, 2018:
@mosuper That they are. I think Libertarians are not against going to war just so long as it is for justifiable reasons. While I do lean heavily to the right politically speaking, I'm registered Independent. Those were some of the main differences between the two parties, and obviously there is far less corruption in the LP than the GOP. If you wanted to learn more about the LP, check out this site- https://thelibertarianrepublic.com/
You could also ask this fellow community member here about the LP @SkotlandSkye , she is a registered Libertarian and knows more about the LP than I do, or lastly you could head over to the Libertarian Agnostics group on here. Hope that helps some. Quite a few of us in this group are either Independent or Libertarian.
mosuper comments on Jul 6, 2018:
The tolerance of the athiests.......
I think I have given up on athiests being tolerant. Sure, the hyper-religious are not tolerant, but generally speaking, I think the religious are much more tolerant than atheists. And, I am quite sure that the militant atheists are much worse than the militant ...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 8, 2018:
@mosuper That they are. I think Libertarians are not against going to war just so long as it is for justifiable reasons. While I do lean heavily to the right politically speaking, I'm registered Independent. Those were some of the main differences between the two parties, and obviously there is far less corruption in the LP than the GOP. If you wanted to learn more about the LP, check out this site- https://thelibertarianrepublic.com/
You could also ask this fellow community member here about the LP @SkotlandSkye , she is a registered Libertarian and knows more about the LP than I do, or lastly you could head over to the Libertarian Agnostics group on here. Hope that helps some. Quite a few of us in this group are either Independent or Libertarian.
I'd say it's worth it.
MrLink comments on Jul 8, 2018:
ok, sure. But honestly, I really have never heard many people call for the confiscation of all guns. In fact - while I am sure somebody somewhere has - I don't think i have heard anybody seriously suggest this. Is there some breaking story on this that i missed?
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 8, 2018:
I cannot speak for any fellow gun rights advocates, but the direct issue where I'm concerned is not about some wanting an all out ban on private gun ownership, but rather certain gun control measures that have been proposed in which I am not convinced do anything to curb potentially violent thugs. As an atheist I go by evidence and firsthand observation, and the evidence I have seen indicates that most said gun control measures do not and have not worked for the most part.
MrLink comments on Jul 8, 2018:
ok, sure. But honestly, I really have never heard many people call for the confiscation of all guns. In fact - while I am sure somebody somewhere has - I don't think i have heard anybody seriously suggest this. Is there some breaking story on this that i missed?
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 8, 2018:
I cannot speak for any fellow gun rights advocates, but the direct issue where I'm concerned is not about some wanting an all out ban on private gun ownership, but rather certain gun control measures that have been proposed in which I am not convinced do anything to curb potentially violent thugs. As an atheist I go by evidence and firsthand observation, and the evidence I have seen indicates that most said gun control measures do not and have not worked for the most part.
I'd say it's worth it.
MrLink comments on Jul 8, 2018:
ok, sure. But honestly, I really have never heard many people call for the confiscation of all guns. In fact - while I am sure somebody somewhere has - I don't think i have heard anybody seriously suggest this. Is there some breaking story on this that i missed?
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 8, 2018:
Just spend some time in the gun control now group on this site, you'll cross paths with some of those who desire to abolish all private gun ownership. While the host of that group may not be as radical as some are in said group (he actually is a member of this group and the pro 2A group I host as well), I have observed some questionable albeit radical comments made within that group. You asked about a breaking story you missed? If you get an opportunity to do some research, look up the march for our lives movement, quite a few of their members are radical and have called for an end to private gun ownership. Hope that helped some.
MrLink comments on Jul 8, 2018:
ok, sure. But honestly, I really have never heard many people call for the confiscation of all guns. In fact - while I am sure somebody somewhere has - I don't think i have heard anybody seriously suggest this. Is there some breaking story on this that i missed?
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 8, 2018:
Just spend some time in the gun control now group on this site, you'll cross paths with some of those who desire to abolish all private gun ownership. While the host of that group may not be as radical as some are in said group (he actually is a member of this group and the pro 2A group I host as well), I have observed some questionable albeit radical comments made within that group. You asked about a breaking story you missed? If you get an opportunity to do some research, look up the march for our lives movement, quite a few of their members are radical and have called for an end to private gun ownership. Hope that helped some.
No free speech allowed in New Zealand.
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 8, 2018:
Islam is as toxic as christianity and judaism, and perhaps worse. Sorry to hear socialist scum has taken over your country.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 8, 2018:
@Seriousreason I thank you for joining the group. In regards to criticizing Islam, same here in the US. The far left politically correct crowd goes through great lengths to defend muslims, and that makes me want to barf, that among many other things the looney left promotes that I disdain.
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 8, 2018:
Islam is as toxic as christianity and judaism, and perhaps worse. Sorry to hear socialist scum has taken over your country.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 8, 2018:
@Seriousreason I thank you for joining the group. In regards to criticizing Islam, same here in the US. The far left politically correct crowd goes through great lengths to defend muslims, and that makes me want to barf, that among many other things the looney left promotes that I disdain.
One of the things I don't like about this universal healthcare/Obamacare crap is that it's basically...
buck1977 comments on Jul 7, 2018:
Obscene profit from human suffering is immoral.
- Health insurance companies need to be phased out of the loop because they add no value.
- Trump administration needs to negotiate contracts with healthcare providers.
- People need to pay a federal healthcare tax on income with your rate ...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 8, 2018:
@Yakoi Geez, sad to hear such. You made the best choice it sounds like, as hard as it was I'm sure. I think quite a few of us in this group are pro choice friendly.
buck1977 comments on Jul 7, 2018:
Obscene profit from human suffering is immoral.
- Health insurance companies need to be phased out of the loop because they add no value.
- Trump administration needs to negotiate contracts with healthcare providers.
- People need to pay a federal healthcare tax on income with your rate ...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 8, 2018:
@Yakoi Geez, sad to hear such. You made the best choice it sounds like, as hard as it was I'm sure. I think quite a few of us in this group are pro choice friendly.
So yeah. I can't cook.... I'm going to starve to death.
onlyduh comments on Jul 7, 2018:
Two Words: Fucking Big Mac
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 7, 2018:
Damn, now I'm hungry...
onlyduh comments on Jul 7, 2018:
Two Words: Fucking Big Mac
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 7, 2018:
Damn, now I'm hungry...
I thought about going the private message route for this, but figured it was easier just posting ...
mosuper comments on Jul 6, 2018:
The tolerance of the athiests.......
I think I have given up on athiests being tolerant. Sure, the hyper-religious are not tolerant, but generally speaking, I think the religious are much more tolerant than atheists. And, I am quite sure that the militant atheists are much worse than the militant ...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 7, 2018:
@mosuper There appears to be relatively few differences between Libertarians and Republicans. A few differences would be- Libertarians accept and defend the rights of the LGBTQ community along with reproductive rights, whereas most Republicans do not. The LP believes in keeping religion out of our politics, and the GOP is infested with religious fanatics. LP wants minimal to no regulations on recreational marijuana usage, and lesser regulations in general. Those are a few differences off the top of my head.
mosuper comments on Jul 6, 2018:
The tolerance of the athiests.......
I think I have given up on athiests being tolerant. Sure, the hyper-religious are not tolerant, but generally speaking, I think the religious are much more tolerant than atheists. And, I am quite sure that the militant atheists are much worse than the militant ...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 7, 2018:
@mosuper There appears to be relatively few differences between Libertarians and Republicans. A few differences would be- Libertarians accept and defend the rights of the LGBTQ community along with reproductive rights, whereas most Republicans do not. The LP believes in keeping religion out of our politics, and the GOP is infested with religious fanatics. LP wants minimal to no regulations on recreational marijuana usage, and lesser regulations in general. Those are a few differences off the top of my head.
One of the things I don't like about this universal healthcare/Obamacare crap is that it's basically...
bigpawbullets comments on Jul 7, 2018:
I'm on Medicare+ and my wife is on Anthem..
Our medical insurance costs almost doubled with the Affordable Care Act. Plus, I had to find two new specialists who were "in plan". The cost went up, the medical options went down, and I've not met a doctor who thinks this is a better way.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 7, 2018:
Some folks are just oblivious to what constitutes reality. The ACA was among one of the biggest screw jobs ever committed on Americans.
bigpawbullets comments on Jul 7, 2018:
I'm on Medicare+ and my wife is on Anthem..
Our medical insurance costs almost doubled with the Affordable Care Act. Plus, I had to find two new specialists who were "in plan". The cost went up, the medical options went down, and I've not met a doctor who thinks this is a better way.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 7, 2018:
Some folks are just oblivious to what constitutes reality. The ACA was among one of the biggest screw jobs ever committed on Americans.
Good morning troops!
I'm still mulling over, and jotting down notes for a post on firearms ...
Trajan61 comments on Jul 7, 2018:
Federal law Trumps state law but some states like California, New York and Illinois definitely have stricter laws pertaining to guns. I think California’s concealed carry permit law that leaves it up to the Sherrif on whether you can get a concealed carry permit should be unconstitutional as it ...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 7, 2018:
I agree, there should be nation wide conceal carry available to law abiding citizens. I'm organizing a gun rights advocacy group on another site, and that is one point we would like to focus on and spread that idea around.
Trajan61 comments on Jul 7, 2018:
Federal law Trumps state law but some states like California, New York and Illinois definitely have stricter laws pertaining to guns. I think California’s concealed carry permit law that leaves it up to the Sherrif on whether you can get a concealed carry permit should be unconstitutional as it ...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 7, 2018:
I agree, there should be nation wide conceal carry available to law abiding citizens. I'm organizing a gun rights advocacy group on another site, and that is one point we would like to focus on and spread that idea around.
Share this one with your liberal friends (assuming you have any lib friends that is), remind them ...
Trajan61 comments on Jul 7, 2018:
Trump gives those idiots the fits and I love it!!
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 7, 2018:
All they could do is yell at the sky, like the looney tune in the meme.
Trajan61 comments on Jul 7, 2018:
Trump gives those idiots the fits and I love it!!
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 7, 2018:
All they could do is yell at the sky, like the looney tune in the meme.
Do you guys believe that Trump supporters should be treated with civility?
snytiger6 comments on Jul 7, 2018:
Only if they also treat others with the same civility they want for themselves... Of cours epeopel who act civil are seldom Trump supporters.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 7, 2018:
I try to be fair with everyone regardless of their views...and I voted for Trump. Most of my fellow conservatives on this site believe in doing the same.
snytiger6 comments on Jul 7, 2018:
Only if they also treat others with the same civility they want for themselves... Of cours epeopel who act civil are seldom Trump supporters.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 7, 2018:
I try to be fair with everyone regardless of their views...and I voted for Trump. Most of my fellow conservatives on this site believe in doing the same.
@Admin.
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 7, 2018:
Not a bad idea Richard. Some fellow members had asked me to add some photos/pics to my profile once the addition was made to vote on profile uploads. The only thing is, since then no one has even bothered voting on anything I had uploaded, despite receiving many visitors to my profile, and it kind ...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 7, 2018:
@FrayedBear Eh, who knows? I try not to let it bother me, and I'm certainly not concerned about points. Being able to interact with some interesting like-minded members is what keeps me coming back here. Later Richard, take care, and again good idea you had there.
SpikeTalon comments on Jul 7, 2018:
Not a bad idea Richard. Some fellow members had asked me to add some photos/pics to my profile once the addition was made to vote on profile uploads. The only thing is, since then no one has even bothered voting on anything I had uploaded, despite receiving many visitors to my profile, and it kind ...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 7, 2018:
@FrayedBear Eh, who knows? I try not to let it bother me, and I'm certainly not concerned about points. Being able to interact with some interesting like-minded members is what keeps me coming back here. Later Richard, take care, and again good idea you had there.
I just posted this in trump pinata.
Captain_Feelgood comments on Jul 6, 2018:
Holy shit... I'm just getting back on here to see what a damn shit storm this whole thing has turned into..lmfao... Good ole Mike Flora had the whole thing taken down after spending who knows how long trying to explain to them it wasn't true... Dear Odin, how do those people dress themselves in the ...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 6, 2018:
Haha, unreal...
Captain_Feelgood comments on Jul 6, 2018:
Holy shit... I'm just getting back on here to see what a damn shit storm this whole thing has turned into..lmfao... Good ole Mike Flora had the whole thing taken down after spending who knows how long trying to explain to them it wasn't true... Dear Odin, how do those people dress themselves in the ...
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 6, 2018:
Haha, unreal...
Police arrested the jackass who heckled a sixteen year old Trump supporter, good!
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Captain_Feelgood comments on Jul 6, 2018:
Gotta love it....
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 6, 2018:
Sure do.
Captain_Feelgood comments on Jul 6, 2018:
Gotta love it....
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 6, 2018:
Sure do.
Police arrested the jackass who heckled a sixteen year old Trump supporter, good!
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Beach_slim comments on Jul 6, 2018:
Liberal garbage
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 6, 2018:
Quite so.
Beach_slim comments on Jul 6, 2018:
Liberal garbage
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 6, 2018:
Quite so.
Police arrested the jackass who heckled a sixteen year old Trump supporter, good!
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Leutrelle comments on Jul 6, 2018:
The extreme left have become what they hate; fascism.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 6, 2018:
Indeed they have, the irony of it all.
Leutrelle comments on Jul 6, 2018:
The extreme left have become what they hate; fascism.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 6, 2018:
Indeed they have, the irony of it all.
I thought about going the private message route for this, but figured it was easier just posting ...
Leutrelle comments on Jul 6, 2018:
I appreciate your diligence.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 6, 2018:
Thank you, and I appreciate your contributions to this group. Speaking of groups, I started another if you are interested- "Pro Gun Rights Group"
Leutrelle comments on Jul 6, 2018:
I appreciate your diligence.
SpikeTalon replies on Jul 6, 2018:
Thank you, and I appreciate your contributions to this group. Speaking of groups, I started another if you are interested- "Pro Gun Rights Group"
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