Discussion time. When I was in high school, I had a bus driver who played christian radio almost every morning. Now, most of the time it was not that big of a deal because I had my headphones and my own music. But if I wanted to talk to friends or anything, I would have to endure the constant bombardment of Jesus music to my ear drum. Interestingly enough, I eventually became a school bus driver myself and I now have that same bus driver as my coworker. Once I got to know her in that capacity, I found out that she’s a really sweet old lady and I actually like her as a person. She is a christian but she is a real christian in the sense that she is nonjudgemental, helps the needy, and fosters troubled kids. To this day I have had nothing but good things to say about her. All this being said, I think there are some good lessons in this story that might benefit some people in this community. Anyone is welcome to share similar experiences on this thread. I would be happy to read.
To Geoffrey 51 ho said it Would be the same though if she were playing Buddy Holly or Metallica.
really. Christian Radio measured against Buddy Holly or Metallica. This is a joke or you don't understand.
OK. I just posted saying it was a guy. Admittedly this may be a lovely women, but if she is playing christian radio all the time, she knows she is subjecting others to this without their approval. That is is judgmental.
Would be the same though if she were playing Buddy Holly or Metallica
Threaten him with the holy hand grenade should he not desist!
i go to a jamaican fast food place that blares their religious tripe while i wait for my delicious food to be prepared. i spar with the younger ones.
Tolerance is always a good lesson, but it's still a good idea to ask people to tone down religious music in a public funding vehicle, if it offends you.
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One of the things that I have found about beliefs is that Christanity was never really pushed onto most of us back then. Now it could have been the lack of knowlege or not having the internet or so. But it rarely ever came up. The world that I lived in was more about Science, global envirement, polution, Scientific endevors and such.
Over the years I've seen the decline of that way of thinking. I don't have the words to my dismay that I feel about that fact.
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I had it lucky. Back when I was in High School, the bus that I took had an 8 track to play music. Me and a few of my friends got them to play Black Sabbath master of reality. That was more than cool.
I agree that this community can benefit from stories like this although I have none. She may have been crossing a line in some people's minds but she wasn't seemingly trying to indoctrinate anyone, just listen to music and she unfortunately has some really bad taste. Either way, if your belief system is fragile enough that the music of a school bus driver can break your grip, you've got bigger problems to address.
Yeah, most Christians are nice people. But she (and now you too) work for a public entity (I assume). She and you are representing the public school district. Xian music on the bus would be okay for a private, Christian school but not a public one. That's showing favoritism to Christianity. Many children on the bus might not be Christian. It violates the wall of separation.
A) you have to be a saint to deal with screaming kids on a schoolbus! lol B) Christian music annoys me as much as Achey Breaky Heart! Speaking of which I have a funny story from bible camp. Yes I had to go there. A friend put a NWA CD in their player! They accidentally played it! How many catholics does it take to get a CD out? 3. One trying to figure it out, and two standing around watching. lol True story. Reminds me of something else I just remembered and want to post.
@Jarrett Or just unplug the power cable! Logic. I got to admit it was still better than listening to "Our God Is An Awesome God". lol I couldn't stop laughing! It took probably 30 seconds for them to turn it off!
That is a sweet story and I admire your openness to her and her beliefs. Unfortunately I do not have that sense of fellowship from religious folks...perhaps my experiences have not been with non judgemental types as this lady was....thanks for sharing that.
Being a xstian and being a good person are not the same thing, possibly not even related. Perhaps she would have done all those nice things and more if she hadn't been a xstian, one thing does not necessarily follow the other.
Growing up I went to church with my 3 siblings and my Mom but not my father. There was a couple there that played the organ and they were always really nice to me and I was very fond of them, kind hearted people that lived a humble life and had no kids of their own. I would go over to their apartment some days and they were always very kind to me and would get me some milk and cookies and get me to sing while they played the violin or the piano for me. I thought they epitomized the values of the church but as I grew older I came to realize that they were nice people who couldn't have any kids of their own so they enjoyed having me around. I have fond memories but not of the church.
@Jarrett I think that a person can be a christian and still be a good person, although I think they will have a better chance of being a good person if they just read the book and don't attend services. I still think they would be delusional and living in a fantasy world but that's okay too, so long as they are kind and good. What I don't believe, as previously stated above is that being a xstian automatically makes you a good person, the opposite is more likely to be true from my personal experience.
If she was as nice as you say, she would have considered the feelings of the bus passengers.
So torturing you as a child is okay, because she didn't know it? I guess It's forgivable. Bit did you tell HER this story?
@Jarrett I should try that - not creating friction. Don't know what that's like, but I am intrigued.
I have mixed feelings about this. She may be a nice old lady, but broadcasting your belief system to unwilling listeners is inappropriate. I was with a volunteer group for a while, and at the annual appreciation dinner they asked us all to pray. Made me angry since it was a secular group and there was no reason for it. Just my opinion.
I once had a friend that I adored! She had 2 children that I kept up with from Ga as they lived in Massachusetts. It was all great, but as her children got around school age, she started pushing her Seventh Day Adventist faith. She home schooled her children and her letters became more and more pushing me toward her beliefs. When I responded...and back then it was from my own questioning Christian position...she would inform me that I was going to hell! I had to give up contact with that lovely family, because my character no longer mattered to her...I had to buy into her idea of god and her religion! Her letters were filled with scripture trying to convert me! I felt like a non-person in her eyes! I hurt from the loss of that friendship for a long time!
It's a shame you had to endure that but a friendship shouldn't be a moral battleground. You lost your friend long before the final confrontation. When people join a cult, they want to bring everyone along with them and you change from being a friend to being a prospect.
@Jarrett I could never hate them, they were such an adorable family...she was just so steeped in that ‘die hard religion’ there was just no way to reach her anymore! The boys would be men now and I wonder how life went for them? Because, they would have been completely emersed in that religion! So sad!
@Jarrett not to mention, I wonder if the husband survived? They were a lovely couple and were married for many years before they had kids!