I’ve been very involved in my local town hall. At this month’s meeting they started the tradition of adding saying the Pledge of Allegiance (fine) and a Christian prayer (not fine). When I voiced my opinion opposing this, I was told that Congress and most of then surrounding municipalities do this. They also added that if I didn’t like it, I should step outside during this part of the meeting. I haven’t begun researching counterinformation yet. I’m pretty sure anyone not Christian is viewed as not worthy of life.
This is a small rural community. Any suggestions on valid arguments that might make sense to decision makers (who are all older, white, good ole boys from the country)? Or should I save my breath?
Hmm..the law has been ambiguous on this point, but this article has some legal info
Link: [ffrf.org]
Separation of church and state violation. Oh, and Congress is also violating.
Just tell them all the bad things they used to do before and don't do anymore. Examples: slaves worship gods of odin, thought tomato was poison and potato was poison. Women did not have the vote or could own property you get the drift.
Any pragmatist would suggest saving your breath. If you really want to oppose it try a 'letter to the editor'.
Not sure if any of my arguments would work, but people are free to pray, sing, pledge, handle snakes and roll on the floor about any time the 'spirit' moves them as long as they don't interfere with others' rights to be free of the nonsense by imposing it on them.
The business of a 'town hall', or for that matter even athletic events, is the PURPOSE for the gathering. My suggestion is and has always been for them to merely publish an actual meeting/event start time and a pre-meeting ritual start time that allows ritual participants adequate time and freedom to babble in or out of tongues, sing, pledge or anything else on the pre-meeting agenda. It is a win:win.
The theological fanatics wishing to use any and all gatherings to aggrandize themselves by taking turns at the 'invocations' will fight it tooth and nail because it's viewed as good exposure - advertizing for their respective congregations. If you are in a community of civilized people who are fair minded and who are closeted objectors too, it might make some progress.
By announcing two times it shows recognition and respect for their craziness while providing those who are there for 'business' an opportunity to get to it without squirming through a bunch of superstitious hoo haa.
With all considerations, nonbelievers were not included in the constitution and it would be even more disrespectful to force the religious rules on them. furthermore, it is impossible not to offend a different religious cult especially when there is a specific religious rule are forced upon them. An example is forcing a Jewish person to honor a demigod or a Cristian to observe the rules of Hanukkah.
Freedom from religion takes on those types of issues. [ffrf.org]
Freedom from religion takes on those types of issues. [ffrf.org]
In the US Congress I believe "prayers/blessings" can be of any faith or no faith.
If they stipulate that only Christians need apply that is a problem.
Consider making a video, every time they do their prayers. That ALONE should tell them you've taken a stand! FFRF will be glad to help! And...good luck!
I would bring my own, ‘reflective ref’ for people who share your spiritual inclination and ask that it be presented, along side the prayer...as a valid member of this community, stepping outside is not acceptable! And, I would write letters and put it in writing! This is not separation of church and state! Good luck!