Does evil exist? As non-believers do we still accept the concept of evil in its pure form?
There is no good or evil. There is only the way we look at things. Like Jesus, in christianity he's a superstar, the best man that ever lived. But in my opinion, even if he actually existed and came from dead to alive, than he's just a zombie. And what I've learned from movies, zombies are bad and evil.
There is no true evil or good force. Humans do good and evil things. Humans make laws to stop people from doing bad things. People still do bad things because they are evil.
Good and evil are subjective, based on your subjective morals and society's laws.
Evil exists, it is a human construct and although genetics, upbringing, and society are often the cause, it does not mean that it does not create evil in a very real and pure form.
I disagree but I'm open to other perspectives. Can you give me an example of what you would classify as pure evil?
@Meili Any serial killer.
@mattersauce Maybe they are only evil when they are committing their atrocities. Maybe the rest of the time they are rescuing kittens and such. Defining "Pure" would focus the discussion.
@mattersauce I wouldn't consider myself qualified to make that determination since I've never known any serial killers personally.
@Meili @Davekp I would say that any human who hunts and murders people is pure evil. How does it matter if they also save kittens? I"m not sure what the relevance is to the multiple people that were murdered or the families that the serial killer also saved kittens. Evil is a human concept, and if a serial killer isn't pure evil, I can't imagine what would be and why we'd even have the term. If you have to factor every single thing that they've ever done and their entire history, you'll never identify anyone as pure evil. Someone does not become a serial killer while coming up in a happy home and having nothing inside them that is "off". Does that mean that they are not pure evil, if so what would be? My opinion is that at some point you may be so incredibly broken that you can't live in society with the rest of us, and yeah that sucks for them but they're still pure evil.
@mattersauce You've described the reason I don't believe evil exists. A person isn't the sum total of one thing they do but when we look at other people we usually judge them based on only a moment or two of their life. I don't think we can judge even a serial killer based on the few facts we know about them because we've taken one thing they do and made it everything. I don't want people to do that with me so I'm not willing to do it with them.
To the person asking this question about whether or not evil exists, you decide what you believe in an atheistic/agnostic society. Why? As you will see we are not a homogenous group. We tend to think for ourselves, but we also rely on reason and on scientifically or societally proven facts to decide our position. From my perspective much of evil has to do with your definition of it. I have no more proof of a Satan or a malevelant energy than I have of a good or a spirit. All of these, IMO, are products of magical thinking.
I do believe in evil, but I define it as truly bad things that have a negative impact on people, society, animals, our ecosystem, an dour world. Each of us has energy, and we can apply that as we choose. Unfortunately some people are indeed mentally ill or drugged and in their insane states they can do awful things. Others do awful things because they have an impaired ability to empathize with others or to project awful outcomes likely to occur as a result of misusing their energies.
My 2c worth;
A lot of responses to this question. Far far too many to answer individually.
One of the reasons I asked this is a TV play I watched called "Longford". It concerned his friendship with Britains most notorious killer Myra Hindley. She with her partner Ian Brady kidnapped, tortured and killed 5 children in the 1960s and buried them outside of Manchester.. Long Longford was a Christian judge. Not one your alt right guys although he was anti abortion and also anti porn. However (I digress). This guy is what you might think of as the best of Christianity and he takes up Hindleys case. Arguing for a possible release date etc, Now at one point in the play she turns to him and says "You are a good man. You see the good in people and are attracted to it but at night on the moors when we were burning those children I saw the beauty of evil"
@273kelvin That was a play. It's a great line for a play. Reality is that all human being have more or less the same makeup.
No. Evil is just bad ass energy floating around the person that's attracting it. Stay far away.
Actions that we perceive as evil or morally reprehensible, imho are reactionary results to an event witnessed or a mistreatment experiences which went unresolved and over time formed an idea or will to carry out such an act or habit that would be considered evil by societal standards. Some people have a genetic mental disposition that could exacerbate the reactionary results but in such cases those people don't think they are doing evil they are acting on a flawed logic system, I actually think everyone does this to some extent but only the noticeably appalling results stand out.
Evil does not exist until someone does it. The reasons someone does something so heinous that it can only be considered evil is not some dark force moving in the darkness, but rather mental issues which can be any combination genes, education, and experience.
Psychopaths, narcissists,.... Complete amorality. And an inability to change.
That is evil. And there is no compromise to be made.
Too many politicians are from these mutant groups.
The Founding Fathers thought they had prevented all three branches be corrupted simultaneously.
Evil will always find a way to take from us.
I do agree that some people are just evil, but evil is a concept without pure form. Evil is created and what is evil to one person is not always evil to another. There is no justification for evil. Nazis and Jews are a good example and what happened to the Jews is pure evil.
Like always... no polling from strangers but... I had seen Evil. I had seen Good too.
I voted yes. However, short of the rare homicidal psychopath/sociopath; I don't think evil for evil's sake is really a thing. I think there are many horribly misguided people that perform subjectively awful actions with no hint of remorse, because in their mind they are rationally doing the right thing. They are even a little confused that others don't see it their way.
There’s no such thing as evil or sin IMO. There are mistakes, but people can correct their mistakes.
The only way the word is useful is when, if someone does something I don’t like I judge them to be evil. But judging people is a mistake, so by all rights the word could be dropped from the language.
Will someone please call and inform the dictionary companies.