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WHAT YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE --

Let me see if I have this straight. These are very simplified and recalled from memory without researching them further. If I'm wrong, feel free to point it out.

Xians believe if you accept the sacrifice of Christ you will got to Heaven. If not, you go to Hell. This holds true for everyone and no other factors are considered.

JWs follow a basically Xian faith but believe only 144,000 "spiritual Israelites" will go to Heaven and the remainder will be resurrected in new bodies to an earthly paradise after Jesus returns.

Jews believe in God but not in a divine Jesus. They're also not really down with the whole Heaven/Hell thing. They believe they were chosen by God because they best personify the moral and ethical behavior God demands.

Islam believes in God and his prophet, Muhammad. There was no sacrifice by Jesus and the soul continues after death until the final day of judgment when everyone will be assigned a place in Heaven or Hell.

Mormons believe all the standard Xian boilerplate but they've modified it so that you become a God over your own planet of worshipers after death after you've been judged by a divine council of Elohim, (God) Jesus, and Joseph Smith.

Scientology believes that... No. Fuck it. I'm not even bothering with this one.

So no matter what religion you want to follow, your brain must be firmly in the OFF position.

Sgt_Spanky 8 May 25
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Here ya go Seargent, a quote from Christopher Hitchens : (via my refrigerator )
"Since it is obviously inconceivable that all religions can be right, the most reasonable conclusion is that they are all wrong."

twill Level 7 June 3, 2019
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These are, however, only Abrahamic based religions. There are many others such as Buddhism, Taoism or many Indigenous religions that don’t follow the same template.

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All of these are somewhat similar and some depend on what you think about some of the others. It just depends on which denomination or sect you are coming from. The bad thing is that in every one of them YOU have no life. All you have is servitude to something invisible and imaginary, and this is supposed to make you happy.

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In a nutshell, jews do not see jesus as the messiah, they are still waiting for this figure to come, they've been waiting for a fucking long time, that should give them a hint or two, but nooooooo! All religions are bullshit!

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A good summary for a nutshell. Well done for not including the ones not worth bothering about.

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110% correct, and I too would steer clear of anything to do with that totally whacked out Scientology bullshit, just as I do with ALL other religious twaddle and utter 'dickwad' belief systems.

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"Jews believe in God but not in a divine Jesus. They're also not really down with the whole Heaven/Hell thing. They believe they were chosen by God because they best personify the moral and ethical behavior God demands." the last sentence is incorrect. the chosen people thing has a single source, and it is that (i am talking from within the jewish belief system now, not from my own belief) god offered abraham, and through him the jewish people, a covenant. abraham had a choice whether or not to accept the covenant. he accepted. i have always thought the term should be "choosing" rather than "chosen" but the "chosen" comes from the choice god made to offer the covenant to the jews. had abraham not accepted, presumably god would've gone on to his second choice. it is not about best personifying the moral and ethical behavior god demands. naturally, the follower of any religion follows that religion believing that is what god wants, so EVERY religion believes that god has chosen them because they best personify the moral and ethical behavior god demands. that is not unique to the jews and therefore cannot be what being the chosen people means. if that is what "chosen people" meant, every religion's followers would be, in its own view, the chosen people.

i'll also add that "chosen people" in terms of judaism means that god gave extra commandments to the jews. i don't know why christians refer to the 10 commandments; jews have 613. i forget how many god demands of nonjews -- and the fact that they have fewer (WAY fewer) commandments, according to judaism, does not make jews superior. it makes them more obligated.

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p.s. judaism also is not defined by NOT believing in the divinity (or necessarily the existence) of jesus (not his real name in any event). judaism is a lot older than christianity, and jesus, if he existed, was jewish.

Thanks for the additional input. 👍

@Sgt_Spanky you are quite welcome. i have posted elsewhere about an experience i had yesterday and i will not replicate that post here but here is a short version: i met someone who just started attending a jewish adult daycare center (which is not religious and whose clientele is by no means all jewish) and did not know that jews do not believe in the divinity of jesus -- and was SHOCKED to find that out. i asked him if he had never met a jew before. he shook his head, no, he never had. he had just told me he'd visited israel so i seriously doubted that, but from his shocked expression i knew he thought he was telling the truth. he was NOT the first person i ever met who didn't know jews don't believe in the divinity of jesus. he won't be the last unless i drop dead pretty soon. it still amazes me, though. at least he didn't ask me to turn around so he could see if i had a tail, and ask me to part my hair so he could see if i had horns.

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@genessa How does someone go his entire life without meeting a Jew? It's not like an Elvis sighting, Jews are pretty common. This guy really needs to get out more.

@Sgt_Spanky lol he spent a good amount of time telling me how he's been all over europe (with his mother -- note that she is now 90 years old, and he is probably in his 60s, as am i). but never mind his whole life; how does he visit israel and never meet a jew? and if he is so fervent about jesus (trust me, he was fervent!) then how, out of all the various christian day care facilities, did he end up at a jewish one?

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In the end the other ones are all Jewish heresies.

@Pedrohbds well, the other big two. buddhism, for example, isn't related.

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To be any follower of Jesus you also have to believe judiesm is true, but not follow it yet follow the commandments that you feel like from the old testament.

1of5 Level 8 May 25, 2019

Yes, but as innumerable Xstians will tell blatantly you, especially the Evangelists, etc, the O.T. is no longer valid since they now have a newer Covenant via Jesus, the New Testament.
Ergo, in their deluded minds the '10 Commandments' are now little more than ink scratches on a piece of paper.

@Triphid yup, but I meant more than the 10 commandments. There's quite a few more if memory serves throughout the text.

@Triphid yeah that pesky OT.

But they pull it out in a hot minute to use as a weapon against homosexuals. Leviticus in particular. They conveinately forget there is a heap more condemnations against heterosexuals with dire warnings if death, slavery or hell. When the OT is used as a weapon against me (yes, I'm queer) I remind them "there are over 600 admonishments pertaining to straight people and only a few against gays. So you better keep your nose clean."

@Triphid I understand why you may say that, but those Bible Thumpers in the deep south fought diligently to keep the Ten Commandments monument in front of their Courthouse! They believe in it, just don't follow it!

@Stilltrying1964 Show me ANY God-bothering Jesus Jockey who actually follows what they are preaching about.
I'd lay good money that even if you found one it'd be as rare as hen's teeth.

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