@maturin1919 That would be a travesty. Another 4 years of this lying scumbag.

@davknight the dems seem disorganized. I would prefer they run against Trump than each other.

@sticks48 I like her too. Just don't think tribal policies will help her.

@Bigwavedave All politics is tribal.

@Sticks48 the dems have a lot of tribes... they need to appeal to more universal goals. Ie not black poverty but income inequality.

@Bigwavedave That is part of black equality. If they don't get the black vote they can't win.

@robecology. I'm not sure Kamala is a great debater....I think the country can elect a woman , a black woman , a gay.....but they have to have a unifying strategy. We can't be dividing the liberal vote.

@altschmerz Let's put it this way; you must know by now that a fundamental foundation of Christianity - in fact most, if not all world religions - is male dominance.

The fact that a strong woman might run America scared too many of the #Religulous.

I could be wrong, of course; that's just my gut feelings.

I did research on the issue, and came up with a Conservative paper's POV...which supports yours...

[nationalreview.com]

So just like white men got to decide when it was time for the wimmens and the colored to vote and their own property?

Aren't you a special flavor of musk vanilla?

@BufftonBeotch

Calling names? I wouldn't do that to you...

But that's how folk who have nothing to debate with roll....

I'm a feminist...and have been since the 1970's. I threw all my support and a lot of $$ to Hillary.

But the truth hit me in the face on Nov 3, 2016;

America is still #religulous. Still machismo dominant. Still sexist. Still misogynist.

If we don't fight fire with fire we're in for another 4 years of DJT.

Apparently that realty hasn't hit you yet.

@Robecology You are deciding we are not worthy of your vote I will call you what I please.

@annewimsey. Hardly...

People think it is just slavery to be atoned for.

So many more recent racism from red-lining to Betsy calling the cops on a BBQ.

@BufftonBeotch so true, originally their were reparations, Forty acres and a mule, was given right after the Civil war but Andrew Johnson over turned that and we've been trying to make amends since then but don't seem to be able to.

Those centrists and racists aren't coming back. The time to try and get their votes needs to be buried in the past it is.

@t1nick.... ok well perhaps. In my mind if we focus on income inequality and put together a plan to address that it is more focused on everyone rather than a tribe. One of Baracks strengths is he always appealed to everyone . I still think that is a better strategy . But a appreciate your comment!

@BufftonBeotch I agree . But if we break down into tribes we lose. We can accomplish fixing lots of things collectively. Just my opinion.

@Bigwavedave I agree with focusing on an income inequality foci. But in order to address that issue with any chance of success, marginalized communities need to be mobilized, as they are grossly underrepresented in the poles. Galvanize them and get them energized to show up and you stand a chance at addressing the disparity.

I agree with your assessment of Obama. Unfortunately he went out of his way to appear not to address race related issues until Ferguson. After that he couldnt. The detractors that accuse him of being racist are idiots and have no concept of context or social awareness. Most are defendants of the ststus quo and white privilege.

@Bigwavedave The trend - not just here in this country but overseas as well - is definitely towards tribalism. I hear it in the conversations of everyday people - who would vehemently deny being "tribal"....don't know how/why we managed to get turned in this direction. ??? Maybe human beings are just hard wired that way?

@Lavergne
I think things go in cycles. Hopefully we will overcome this cycle relatively soon

@Lavergne hey I just got called a rascist. ...amazing ...

@Bigwavedave Dave

I hope you arent thinking that I meant to call you racist? I wasn't.

@Bigwavedave I get called all sorts of things. hehehe I can't shake the feeling that trump will steal the next election just as he did the first time....gerrymandering and massive amounts of misinformation. The people who vote for him are not prone to fact checking anything....they believe every stupid thing that comes out of his mouth. Wouldn't be surprised if he wins the electoral votes and loses the popular vote by an even larger margin than Hillary had. aaccckkkkkkkkk

@Lavergne
I hold the same apprehensions.

@bobwjr I understand. Just offering my opinion on what I see as a poor strategy.

@Bigwavedave I understand and appreciate your opinion.

@buftonbeach I agree... I'm just not sure who that is right now. What do you think.

Ummm, us older folks actually go to the polling places & vote! And Bernie has had, for decades, all the ideas these "young folks" are now using.... easily seen on Youtube). Why go with plagarizers when you can have the original inventor?

@AnneWimsey Lets go with what lost already. woot.

You need to nominate someone who can beat trump or risk repeat of last election

@bobwjr That is not Biden. He does not have it to give the woman a dignity to look her in the eye.

What in the actual fu_k was that?

Go with Strom.

@BufftonBeotch didn't say Biden can be Burnie post was if we squabble amongst ourselves trump will win we have a long difficult road ahead. Take head out of sand literally anyone is better than trump but their organization is well financed and will use any dirty trick they can look at Kerry entire swiftboat was a lie but they used it to bury him will be more intense and dirty this time because trump is such a piece of shit