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I've always been fascinated by Christians who say they believe in heaven, then scramble in a panic when they get diagnosed with a mortal illness. If they really believed they'd be going to an eternal paradise where they'd be reunited with loved ones and meet god, wouldn't they embrace/welcome their impending death or even try to hasten it?

Rob48 7 Sep 12
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This has crossed my mind as well. If they are true believers they should be thrilled to die and go live with their god. Strange....

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Years ago, I had an elderly neighbor (way up in his 70s) who nearly died from a heart attack. He said that he lived because so many people prayed for him. I thought, dude, shouldn't they have been praying for you to die so you could go home to heaven? Of course, I did not say this.

And were not their prayers totally selfish? They wanted him around so they would not miss him.

I've also been there & scream inside to shut my mouth. For some reason I haven't heard any religious BS in some time. Maybe I'm in heaven.

@ChurchLess Another example is a friend of my ex husband's. We all were in our 30s, but he always said he was "ready to go to the lord." One day he came to our house and was quite shaken because he had almost ran off the road which would have resulted in his car falling several hundred feet into the ocean which was very rocky. Even though I was still a Xtian at the time, i found his fear amusing and said, "Wayne, you always say that you are ready to go to heaven at any time--why didn't you just go?"

He NEVER said that he was ready again.

@Gwendolyn2018 Love it. Where were you living? Unless I have my geography wrong, you don't have an ocean in Missouri.

@ChurchLess I have lived in Missouri for 21 years. However, I also lived on the North Coast of Cali for 40 years. I miss the ocean.

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Furthermore, isn't it incredibly cruel to keep someone with a severe disability (perhaps paralysed from the neck down) alive in this world, when they could go onto the next and be fully functional again?

I've always felt this was proof that most religious people are really just playing Pascal's Wager. They don't truly believe. They're just hoping the promise of paradise is true, and hedging their bets in case it is.

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If you want consistancy never look towards the religious for it.

1of5 Level 8 Sep 12, 2019
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In my experience some of the most frightened people I know r these God fearing Christians that r scared to death of everything

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They panic due to the overriding, overruling and ultimately predominant FEAR OF DEATH, which is awarded to us all - by (gasp!) EVOLUTION!!!

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One would think so, chalk it to another inconsistency of religion and their brainwashed followers.

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This is a silly conversation
I deal with death everyday
Regardless of any belief system nearly everyone “scrambles” when they are presented with their mortality.

@Winkiedink54
Pity that I think your question is silly?
I don’t need pity
Death is scary to most religion or not

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I agree with your words totally. In defense of these Christians they believe that you cannot do yourself in or hurry up the process. Killing yourself is forbidden, and many today imagine they will end up as the small sparks surrounding god's big spark. That does not sound exciting. As for being in heaven with loved ones and reunited, this used to be preached as a big heavenly reunion. It all makes you think that deep down they do not believe this at all. It's just a big club that they belong to and not anything that is real.

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I actually heard a minister talk on this. Being a minister he was often called on to be with individuals on their death bed. He stated he was confused as to why some christians are accepting of death, and others just "fight it." He talked for about 30 minutes but never came up with an answer to his own question.

In looking back at some of his sermons, I really believe he questioned a lot about god, the bible, and christianity. I'll never forget his sermon on Abraham and god's request to kill his son. He stated to us, "I will never sacrifice my family upon the altar of god, so don't expect it of me." I remember thinking that he is a different kind of preacher.

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Excellent observation

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bradnyijuan pretty much hit it on the head. They're just as ignorant as the rest of us. Playing at religious convictions is all well and good when you're healthy. But when the chips go down and time gets short, we revert to what we know has at least some chance -- even if that chance is slim.

They have ample experience that prayer and faith almost never deliver.
They know that when it counts they have to stick with the real world.

My religious friend says he delivers. She prays for parking spots and often gets them 🙂 Who would have thought you could get a parking spot in a parking lot right😉

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It's extremely rare to find one who really believes all that stuff. Any more than they really believe all that "sell all you have and follow me" stuff.

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In my previous letter to all 3 of our local papers I mentioned that some people say they can't wait to meet Jesus, just not yet. This is the typical fear factor.

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Part of it is likely that they know they are not meeting the conflicting requirements laid out in their scriptures.

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Many iof them really are not sure that they have "earned their way into heaven."

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I think there is always some doubt. I think what they say and what they think are to different things! Faith really means you don’t know but you only hope.

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everybody wants to go to heaven..but nobody wants to go now.

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Good point, most people go to church for decades and don't really believe in life after death. I will say this, the unknown is bigger than the known.

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There was a popular song about that very phenomenon, "Everybody Wants to Go to Heaven, but Nobody Wants to Die." Maybe part of the reason is captured in the polka "In Heaven There is No Beer, That's Why We Drink it Here." But it's probably more complex than that. 😊

hahahahaah good one..

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What a great insite!! They can't see beyond their noses. Ugh...😜

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"The art of dying is the art of living." Sherwin Nuland, "How We Die." I intend to meet my end with few regrets, grateful for the life I have had. Maybe that's why I feel so little need for faith.

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Exactly ! If dying is gonna get them to heaven, where their supposedly loving god, and all their lost loved ones are, why are they not eager to go ? Leave already !

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It suggests a lack of faith.Many denominations consider less than full faith a direct, one way, and permanent ticket to hell. If there were hypothetically a heaven it might be full of zealots like mass shooters, terrorists, suicide bombers, pedophiles, and cruel dictators, oligarchs, and slave owners who really believe that all sins are forgiven by faith alone and fearlessly live without empathy and die proud and ready for the ultimate reward.

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I don't pretend to say I know if they think there is a heaven or not. However, as some have pointed out, they know it isn't supposed to be easy to get there. They have to make up for their sinful nature and other such b.s.

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