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Is 'god' an impersonal force of nature, a 'universal consciousness' similar in quality to other natural physical laws, like electromagnetism or the speed of light?
As such, would it not amount to a 'governing principle' describing and limiting the extent of our freedom of thought and action, much like, say, gravity or heat limit what our physical bodies can do, beyond which it encounters resistance?
If so, did men and women then give human thoughts, feelings, and motives to something which is purely impersonal?
Many scientists now believe something like this could be true.[mindmatters.ai]

Storm1752 8 Dec 23
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The basics on god is that god is myth. Thousands of years ago the god idea explained things to a lot of people. Today it is nonsense.

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Unless you can prove consciousness amongst those physics, then all you've got is another projection by humans onto the universe and calling it god. Not real scientists but pseudo scientists might go on about this stuff.

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What you describe I would be more inclined to call "Mother Nature", before I called it "God". But I'm not even inclined to go that far.

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This come across similar to the following:
This rock rolled down the hill. Did something make it roll down the hill? Gravity! Did gravity intend to make it roll down the hill? If so, gravity must be a god. facepalm

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test everything, and keep what is good yeh

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Is what...?

sorry, that's as far as I got.

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Then explain why there is no objective evidence for a god?

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I hope 'god' is universal consciousness and that we contribute to it in our small way. I think of it as having innate consciousness, like Gaia or the bodily (motor) intelligence of a human being. I think it is impersonal, having a way about it that works and we can fall in with it or not as we please.

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Anthropormorphism

bobwjr Level 10 Dec 23, 2019
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There are no gods, they have all been created by us humans, ergo, fictional.

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Probably. The anthropomorphism of such a force provides the problems we face with anthropocentric beliefs.

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not science. but enjoy 🙂

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God doesn't exist, it's just nature. Nothing more and nothing less.

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I read your comment as a fanciful steam of thought, then straight to pseudoscience with the last sentence. “Many scientists now believe...”

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I think we need to stop worrying about what happens after death. We simply cannot know that. Instead, focus on this life and all that happens... the good, the bad, and the ugly. We start with us, since we do know that humans play a major role in all of this. But we learn to live with the paradox of life, and learn to live with the 'unknown.' And if that doesn't work, Vodka.

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This is just a rework of the God of The Gaps argument mish-mashed into the Intelligent Design argument with a little bit of "What Is Consciousness" tossed in for good measure. That which cannot be fully explained must be the work of some extra-dimensional consciousness, and that consciousness itself is some kind of proof of extra-dimensional existence. Yadda yadda. It's a fun exercise but gets you nowhere. Philosophers are not scientists but this article really wants to conflate the two fields with out-of-context sound bites from somewhat prominent members of both communities.

Alan Watts and Sam Harris do a good enough job in each of their respective fields, as far as I'm concerned, because each understand (understood) the boundaries.

I don't understand why people try so hard to marry these ideas. Are we really that impatient with science?

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All claims of all gods are absurd.

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Mind matters appears to be associated with the discovery institute. Steven Meyers, a proponent of intelligent design, is a senior fellow at the discovery institute. [discovery.org]

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