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We may never un-do what Republican law makers are doing, and getting away with doing, during this pandemic. Hidden inside a fairly benign article is this:

"On Saturday night, the Justice Department said it will take action this week against regulations on religious institutions, as states and local governments try to curtail gatherings."

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While millions of Americans celebrate Easter in unusual ways, every state is under a disaster declaration for the first time in history
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SeaGreenEyez 9 Apr 12
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The most striking thing for me, having gone through the comments bellow, is the polarization that Donald Trump has created in American society, the fact that some still feel he is viable as a president is testament to the utter stupidity of his staunch supporters. A great president would surely unite his nation against all adversaries and would protect his people from any harm, not divide the people with sham political divisions and financial considerations!

@SeaGreenEyez Yeah, what you said. Almost all the Trump supporters on this site are indistinguishable from the worst of Troll behavior. They advance no reasoning or verifiable information. This actually reflects how, not only is their philosophy bankrupt, but they come to it because of one or more behavioral disorders, most often a searing need for drama and attention. They must be utterly neglected and lonely, like the Incels; probably abused by their parents. They might deserve some sympathy if they weren't so hateful.

Does this mean that you measure a persons intelligence by whether their opinions align with yours?

@dumasarok could be a sign that your intelligence is not that high...

@dumasarok It is really funny if you don`t agree with them then you are a troll and full of hate,I think we must understand that for a few people the world is really just black and white...And they are clearly the good people, no doubt.

You can measure a person's intelligence by their ability to reason. If there is no reasoning attached to their rhetoric then you can safely determine that their intelligence is low. It's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of intellect and you can't hide your lack of knowledge no matter how witty or smart you are.

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Let them gather, infect one another and die.

This is just Trump deep throating his Christian nationalist base using Barr as his mouthpiece.

If you want to thin your herd, I have no problem with that. Just don't thin mine at the same time.

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CNN (communist news network) is nothing but left wing garbage. You might as well get used to Trump as he’s going to be president for another 4 years after his first term is finished.

@SeaGreenEyez A Republican will likely succeed Trump as people will finally realize how much better the country is doing without the looney democraps!

oh men THIS PEOPLE ARE HATEFULL. If I read the comments I`m only thinking, how can you be so full of hate,that you really wish people who voted different from you ,would die and bullshit like this,what is the point of that? Why are some people so angry??

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Unfortunately in our mad scramble to protect ourselves, we may well, be "throwing the baby out with the bath water". The ramifictions of this epidemic are going to rattle through history, we haven't even begun to fathom what's going to happen.
Now I can't say that I'm in favour of the churches being opened, but eventually the human race triumphs, in spite of itself, this probably means that there'll be a few less 'believers' on the path?

We live in hope, the bible says nothing about all the believers being wiped out, just the unimpressed not making it through the gates of heaven! 🙂

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Ahh yes,, more CNN Fake news... Hell, it says right there in it's own report what Barr says; "The attorney general said he'd "hate to see restrictions on religion continue longer than they are strictly necessary" and that when the Trump administration's recommended period of isolation ends April 30, "we have to consider alternative ways of protecting people." Key words there folks... "longer than they are strictly necessary"... Seriously folks.. take you TDS meds.. People out here with brains see how you try to twist words around to go along with your narrative.. It really is pathetic how you all are so dishonest..

Who let thus guy in here? We're FREE thinkers.

Well, SeaGreenEyez has beat me to the punch, as it were. Your rant is out of the fucking Twilight zone!

@SeaGreenEyez News and Links isn't a group, it's a page open to all to contribute and respond to,,, or is that concept too much for your brain to handle... 😂🙄 Perhaps you should post stupid shit like this in YOUR favorite 'GROUP' Trump Pinata or something.. This is for real news, not fake news... Ever think of that? Seriously, just 3 words for you... TAKE YOUR MEDS!!! 🤣

Dishonest? If you want to listen to dishonesty watch Fox(bullshit)news and the words of proven liars like Barr, Pence, Trump and all his sycophantic cohorts, shame on you and all who believe lies upon lies upon lies and fail to know the difference between fact and fiction. Trump, in his first test of real statesmanship that does not involve wealth has failed miserably, admit it, you backed a lame horse as president!

@Austin-Cambridge MEDS... pretty much all I have to say to you. 🙄

@Captain_Feelgood Ok, sorry about my comment about your sanity, you keep on taking the MEDS mate I'm sure everything will be fine when you wake up! NOT!

@Captain_Feelgood The only reason that CNN and others are called "fake news" is that Donald Trump said he would call them this because their reporting was not saying anything nice about him. OK, there is nothing nice about him. My explanation of how he coined "fake news" is right out of his Tweets which are on file for all to see. If you disagree with me on this it must mean you think Donald has a secret source for real news or simply pulls news out of his ass. I watch news from all over the world.

Here in Germany we have the same problem the whole media is left wing, everyone knows it ,they are a joke!! They always take people out of context,most of my friends are not watching the normal news anymore,if you want information, go online.

@Captain_Feelgood Did I understand it right this is the side for regressiv bs, TDS, Democrats and people that compare nowaday America with Nazi Germany. ok mmh. Honestly the worst are this holocaust comparings. It is really not very sensitive for the victims of this genozide and not even in the slightest appropriate. Ok,then to use one of the favourite terms of the left in Germany and in the US, we should make it a little bit diverse,cause as we all know Diversity is our strength...

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Republicans are dead set against social programs or public safety guidelines unless they need them!

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They are deliberately trying to eliminate science-based policy and regulatory systems.

domos Level 7 Apr 12, 2020
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Trump promised that the Country was going to re-open today. What a good idea that was! He'd have done it too, if the adults hadn't stopped him.

Now we learn that he wanted to let Covid "wash" through the country, kill a couple million Americans, and not do anything at all. He's a genius alright. Putin's genius.

The evilangelicals have blood on their hands, and a lot of it will be their own. But ....

Another delusional lie... He never said that and you know it.. He said "I HOPE we can do this by Easter" Not we will do it by Easter... But yeah, you keep spewing your lies if it makes you feel good.. 🥱

@SeaGreenEyez Key words there.. "I would love to have it open by Easter"... I guess you need to research what that "would love to" sentiment of hopefulness means.. But yeah, you go ahead and twist words around like you folks always do... You prove to the rest of us just how delusional you are. 😂🤣😎👍

@Captain_Feelgood - FOX's headline was that it was Trump's goal to reopen the economy by Easter. If one listens to his whole statement, it does sound much more definite than not. I would say racocn8's comment was closest to being accurate: "He'd have done it too, if the adults hadn't stopped him."

@Captain_Feelgood Trump does that sort of thing all the time, trots out wishes, which are harder to pin him down on, when he wants to have that action take place. It's his little "dog-whistle." Then "his people" can run it back and say "Oh, but that's not what he meant. He meant...."
He likes to make 1/2 statements, and let his followers fill in the rest of it according to their predilections, thinking that "That" is just what h meant. I's all part of his one human skill, manipulating!
Put down the Kool-Aid.

@Captain_Feelgood

The fact that Trump said he hopes the economy would be open by easter shows his ignorance and poor leadership.

Anyone who knows anything about how pandemics work would know better than to have any hope that it would be over so quickly. To even say that it could happen publicly is dangerous because it encourages people to not take it seriously and go about their business as usual which spreads the virus further. A truly good and decent leader would be doing the opposite. He would be using all of his air time and influence to encourage people to stay inside and take precautions.

Trump does not care about people. He only cares about his own image and he has tied his legacy to a booming economy so he is willing to put people in danger for the sake of his own political optics. He didn't take it seriously until it was too late, he dismissed the pandemic response team, and now the USA has more COVID-19 deaths than any other country. USA #1, Make America Great, highest death toll in the world! Wooohooo America Fuck Yeah!

@RoboGraham The same three words for you... Take Your Meds.. 😉

@Captain_Feelgood

I take them diligently.

Do you have any sort of rational argument to dispute what I have said or are you just going to rely on corny responses which are totally meaningless?

@RoboGraham - According to the coronvirus tracker, the US has just over 30% of the worlds cases of infection and has about 3 1/2 times the number of cases as Spain which is now the country with the second largest number of cases. I don't see the breakdown of deaths and can't report on these figures.
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@Captain_Feelgood I`m not an english native and I know that would love to not means we will....

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Incredible all the Trump haters out there. The country was doing just fine until the Chinese virus hit . SinSTFU

We would have been prepared for a pandemic outbreak, had he not dismantled the office in charge of it. He kept saying there was nothing to worry about until it became obvious even to him that there was! By then it was too late to re-order the necessary equipment. So then he tells us that we would have been much worse off had he not been at the helm! The man is totally delusional, and the most dangerous president we have ever had! This country needs him like they need a case of the clap!

Oh yeah, just ask the kids in cages

Here in the US, it is Trump's virus because his actions (inactions) have caused us to have the greatest number of cases and deaths in the world.
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Fine? You think that dismantling the institutions upon which our democracy is built, the constitution, for one, is doing fine? Firing people, like come, and others who were actually following their job descriptions is fine? Building a Cabinet with the very people who most wish to destroy the departments to which they've been appointed is fine? Putting kids in cages after splitting up their families is somehow, what, the American dream? Man, he would just love you! Unbelievable!
We are not radical leftists as your deluded friend, above, claims, we are people who want the country to live up to its promise of equality and caring for all. All who will treat others that way, not bigots and xenophobes.

We were already in an economic free fall, with the president and his congressional supporters trying to to away healthcare benefits, and lower taxes for the wealthy,
But sure .... STFU

Yes, everything was just fine until a natural disaster came along and revealed how unprepared and lacking of leadership Trump is.

@Trajan61, Maybe it would help. What is it? If it's what you're taking, no thanks!

@Trajan61 [theatlantic.com]

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Keep in mind ... The driving philosophy of the Republican party AND Cadet Bone Spurs is very simple and fundamental ... SCIENCE IS JUST AN OPINION.

@Chickenwing
Seriously?
😂

How about POTUS Bone Spurs?
He is a Malignant Narcissist who believes his ever thought to be some sort of immaculate conception.

@Chickenwing
I believe he used his father’s wealth and privilege to avoid military service, when others only had the choice to serve or go to prison.

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Is Barr treating secular governments like the kkk sheriffs 1960 ?

@SeaGreenEyez the idiots are killing their own voters

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Atrocious

bobwjr Level 10 Apr 12, 2020
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I think it is a good time to restate that over half the cases of COVID-19 in South Korea occurred within one religion which told its followers that God would protect them from pestilence based on passages from the Bible. The real question as we contemplate whether or not to allow religious congregation to gather here in the US is just how many of the other half of South Korea's cases of infection were spread from members of this one religion which defied the directives not to congregate? Religious freedom is fine, but its practice should not be allowed to be the vector of contagion of a deadly disease within the greater community. Disallowing a religious group to congregate during an epidemic or pandemic does not alter anyone's right to believe in the religion of their choice.

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you're correct, our country will never be the same.
And, even if biden wins, he isn't sharp enough or committed to the progressive movement.
I have no faith in him.

Baloney.
Biden will do fine if purists like you will actually vote for him.
Republicans left unchecked will lead this country to utter ruin.

@Storm1752 why should I or would I vote for someone who doesn't represent my values ?

Biden is a joke. He needs to be in assisted living not the Oval Office. If he is the best the leftists have—- that is pathetic.

@maturin1919 thank you Frank A.

@maturin1919 but Trump is?

@FrankA

The party is helping to re-elect Trump by nominating the worst candidate available.

You vote blue no matter who folks seem to forget that a leader must earn support and votes. If he fails to earn them, that's on him. Shaming the people who have reservations about him is the worst way to go about attempting to convince them to get onboard and is a great strategy to ensure a Trump victory again.

@FrankA

Democrats who selected Biden as nominee deserve to be shamed. He is the worst possible challenger to Trump and his nomination essentially ensures a Trump Victory.

You can scapegoat us all you want. The result will be the same. A weak democratic candidate in cognitive decline will be eviscerated by Trump. We could have settled on someone who both sides can get behind but instead you all chose status quo Joe, a completely intolerable candidate and anyone with a functioning set of morals will find it difficult to support him.

@FrankA

Good men don't touch women and girls inappropriately.

Good men don't stand with segregationists during the civil rights movement.

Good men don't write bills that cause mass incarceration and tear apart minority communities.

Good men don't enthusiastically argue in favor of an illegal war of aggression.

good men don't craft legislation which makes it impossible for people to get debt relief through bankruptcy.

Good men don't lie and plagiarize constantly.

Good men don't vow to veto a rational healthcare system if the legislation reaches his desk.

Good men don't lead in favor of wealthy donors and special interests at the expense of the people.

Good men don't attempt to cut medicare and social security.

Good men don't use their power and influence for personal gain and nepotism.

The list goes on and on. This is not a good man, this a man somewhat less evil than Trump himself and we will never support him.

I'd sooner shit on your kitchen floor than give this crook my vote.

@FrankA

I notice that, whenever I bring this stuff up, the Biden supporter I'm talking to doesn't bother to attempt to defend Joe or counter what I'm saying in anyway. You guys have just accepted that you have a terrible candidate and then you demand that we all vote for him without providing any persuasive arguments to do so. When we say we won't do it, you dismiss us and tell us to go vote for someone else, just like Joe himself does. It's really not a good strategy.

@FrankA

I have no doubt that you will survive. It's the people who have no healthcare, who have been kicked out of their homes, who can't afford their medications, who can't get out of debt, they are the ones who may not survive this mess.

@FrankA

What makes Biden a good man?

@RoboGraham i think that that is a misconception unfortunately...

@Buddha

Not sure what you are referring to as a misconception.

@RoboGraham that biden is a good man.. im not convinced

@Buddha

Oh for sure. His negatives far outweigh his positives. I don't think he is as bad as Trump but he is certainly not a good man.

@Storm1752 In Germany I´m voting for a party not for one candidate, isn`t it far more important to support your party?

@MyGirlMichelle if your party stands for your values, yes .But when they don't anymore, I guess its time to change parties.

@Buddha `that is absolut true,if you not feel representet in this party,then leave...Are there really only two options in the US. We got so many partys,some stupid like party of housewifes or bullshit like this. But the three left wing partys working together as a coalition, so there is only one party in the opposition( the so called right) so there are also only two choices. But in the US for example if you change from left to right,and the other way ,you will loose a lot of friends... Wich party represents you not anymore?

@MyGirlMichelle I'm considering going Independent.i just stayed with them to vote in the primary.
The dems with the corrupt DNC and hrc and now biden, do not represent values that I can support anymore. And for sure never the repubs.

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Leave it to stupid repubs to enable this virus to keep spreading!😡

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"Trump said Saturday night that he hopes to make a decision "fairly soon" on when to reopen the country currently shutdown by the coronavirus pandemic. He said he will set up a council to examine the issue and will base his decision on "facts" and "instinct."

ooooooh fuck!

Trump isn't able to distinguish facts from his greed. So long as he believes he and his family are protected from this virus, the rest of us are fair game.

Instinct is synonymous with market and polls. Without intelligence and his egocentric world view, we're screwed and not in the good way.

He's left this to Governors and local governments in all respects up to now, then thinks 'I'll open the country' Nah, the stage has been set.

@SeaGreenEyez Oh no Im German and I dont like this comparison with the Nazi time, this was an absolut unique time and as far as I know has every roup of people the same rights as the other in your country,no one is forced to wear a star, or taken from there homes and deported into ghettos or gas chambers. The jews from Germany 1933 would be very offended by your comparison. Wich Group that is legal in the US is suffering under different laws then the others, tell me about one,please.

@SeaGreenEyez I understand your position and think it is cool that we can talk normal about it,of course there where a lot of German and Austrias, who were big Hitler Fans,the times were absolute rough,people had no work and were totally desperate.Many of them only saw the new work under Hitler,that this was only for a future war, was something only a few figured out.
But it is definitifly not the case that every German knews about the jews and the gas chambers,at first it is a fact that the average citinzen was far less educated than today,I think school was only until six grade. In the highest time only ten % of Germans were members of the NPD,from this ten % perhaps two were activ in the party and they must have known it. I talked with my grandmother who was a early teenaer at this time and she told me that of course they noticed that they were deported, but they had suitcases and even they thought that there were going into working camps. I hope there were also a lot of germans on farms, who hide jews, by bringing themselve in Danger. If everyone would have known what happened the jews would have try to get away much earlier...If you doubt the 10 % I can look for alink,I remember beeing surprised ,too.
MY grandma said that they know that the jews would have probably must do hard work ,and that they don`t have it nice and warm,but some things are so cruel it is really hard to imagine them happpening. But where is the parallel to Trump,that some of his voters are as uncritical celebrating him?? Wich people will he have out of the US, or even better dead?

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Gotta vote all of them out! Blue wave in november!

What we need is a updated FDR. What the Democrats are providing is a Hubert Humphrey. I hold little hope for this country.

@Theresa_N I don't give a crap about names, whomever is the candidate I will vote for that, even if the candidate is a slug, and I am not even a democrat, I am a registered independent. It amazes me how democrats lose their elections becaiuse they are so wiushy washy about being there to support whatever candidate they have, like Repubicans do. shit, they even vote en masse for pedophiles and ex-convicts, racists, but democrats are all like you say, oooh, I don't like him so I won't vote I just write a name or do whatever. That's why democrats most always lose elections.

@Theresa_N Oh?
And you'd rather have Humpty Dumpty?
Hubert Humphrey was great, and would be PERFECT right now.
Biden will be fine.
FDR is not walking through the door any time soon.

@Storm1752 I rather have anything but Trump who is a danger to America. Yes, I will even take your ficticious humpty Dumpty if he is selected by the dems..

@SeaGreenEyez i disagree strongly and completely, Trump is a menace to our democracy. Biden isnt. Presidents nominate supreme court judges, cabinets, even if both houses are in hands of blue, you will always have Manchins there. No way!

@ToolGuy example?

@maturin1919 don't be a moron!

@Theresa_N
In large part FDR was formed by the times, and those around him.
If Biden were to choose Elizabeth Warren as VP or a cabinet position, she and others (us) might well push him into becoming a second FDR.

@maturin1919 you're being one now.

@maturin1919, @Haemish1 and by the real progressive force behind him that would never let him not do thebright thing, his wife, Eleanor. I suggest we check the PBS documentary on the Roosevelts. Great and very enlightening.

@SeaGreenEyez that's exactly the kind of thinking, very egocentric, that rewarded us with 4 years of Trump AND the right wing Supreme court that will haunt us for decades. No thank you. I will vote for the lesser of two evils and that is clearly and undeniably whomever the democrats select.

@Mofo1953
I’d suggest that Frances Perkins was the real progressive force behind him.

@Haemish1 she definitely was, but Eleanor was there with him 24/7, not so Frances.

@Mofo1953 100%

@maturin1919 that shit show you call Ameruca was doing not that bad, give or take a Dubya and a Trump, so no, I don't feel you are "putting the best person for the job in office" by allowing an egomaniacal dictator in training back to the WH. Who are you kidding except yourself?

@maturin1919 nice come back. Very witty and original you moron.

@Mofo1953
There have been questions about FDR’s marital relationship, and his relationship with Perkins

Your blue wave!

@Trajan61 not funny dude

@maturin1919 then fuck off bitch, you definitely need a lot of maturin to do asshole!

And you expect to make that blue wave happen with Biden at the head of the ticket?

@Haemish1

Biden has made it abundantly clear that he loathes progressivism. I suspect that attempting to form him into a modern day FDR would be a fool's errand.

@Mofo1953

I'd say the person who needs to do some "maturin" is the guy who isn't able to bring anything of real substance to the discussion and instead tells people to fuck off when he has lost the debate.

@RoboGraham I expect it to happen with anyone who is chosen, even if it is a slug, which would be definitely less dangerous than Trump.

@RoboGraham so does Trump, the difference is that Trump is a fucking traitor, a despot in training and should be expectorated from the WH pronto!

@RoboGraham your opinion is not a fact, yet based on your stupid position of not supporting the blue wave just because you think Biden would be as bad for America than Trump shows that your opinion is totally irrelevant and negligible because the end result is supporting a traitor and a criminal like Trump. So I could not care less about your inane opinion.

@Mofo1953

I totally agree, Trump needs to be kicked out.

Your method of kicking him out though is extremely naive.

Biden, or a slug, is not good enough. Trump is an incumbent now and he will be even tougher to beat this time around. The party has nominated a very similar candidate to Hillary, who lost to him. And Biden is even worse than Hillary was. He has sexual assault allegation which are believable because of his creepy touching of women and girls. He is in cognitive decline and it is very apparent. His record is horrendous. He has very very little support with the youth and he is offering nothing but status quo. This is the worst case scenario and Trump will benefit from it. I hope you boomers are happy with what you have created.

@Mofo1953

What blue wave? Your opinion is not fact. how do expect to create a blue wave with Biden at the top of the ticket?

@RoboGraham naive? Why? If he's the selected by the DNC that's the binary choice you will have. If anything mine isvrealistic, yours is the idealistic one.

@RoboGraham who said it was a fact. Dude, learn how to read. It is a hope, an aspiration. Something that has not yet happened by definition cannot be a fact. Duh!

@RoboGraham who is naive now?

@Mofo1953

"your opinion is not a fact" You said that too me. Well neither is yours. You are the one claiming that there will be a blue wave, your opinion is not fact.

It's not a binary choice, there are many options.

It was never in doubt that Bernie would be loyal to the party and endorse the DNC selection, just as he did in 16. That's an obvious call. The naive assumption is that there will be a blue wave with status quo Joe leading the party.

@RoboGraham wow, not only dumb but repetitive. I never "claimed" there will be a blue wave in the election, although there was a blue wave in the previous mid term elections, it is impossible and riduculous to claim something that has yet to happen in November, so one can hope or aspire but not claim you dumbass! There is no binary choice? Now who is not only naive but stupid. Tell me in the past century and current century how many Presidents have been elected that are not either Dem or Rep. Thats why ignorant people like you can't accept you've lost the argument. Go ahead then. Keep on embarrasing yourself.

@Mofo1953

You've got to be repetitive when the person you are talking to has a difficult time processing simple concepts.

Just because only two parties win doesn't mean voters have only two options. That line of thinking, that those two are the only two, is what causes those two to win every time and allows the corrupt elites of the two corporate parties to keep their stranglehold on power. If both candidates from the corporate parties are trash, vote for someone who isn't. If enough people do, some other party can win.

"yet based on your stupid position of not supporting the blue wave just because you think Biden would be as bad for America" You speak about the blue wave as though it is a foregone conclusion. My position of not supporting this blue wave, which you are claiming will come, is stupid, you say.

@RoboGraham give it up dude, you lost the argument but are too stubborn to admit it. Oh well, you can't cure stupid.

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