Two million-year-old skull of human cousin found by Australian team in South African cave [theguardian.com] HOW MUCH MORE EVIDENCE DOES RELIGION NEED?
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.Not all religions are young-earth creationists that deny evolution. Of course, this opens an entirely new can of worms for Catholics, for example.
p-nullifidian
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Nov 12, 2020
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CuddyCruiser
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Nov 11, 2020
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That is gorgeous!
@SeaRay215ex HOLY COW 
Sounds like a song I know, but I love it!
Wanting to get logical thinking from them is like wanting to get a candy by inserting a dime into the SD card slot of your laptop.
Rodatheist
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Nov 10, 2020
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Every one knows you need to get a quarter sd slot converter.
I love your analogy!
@anglophone Thank you.
@PondartIncbendog I’ve been praying for one of those. 
That's been put there by the devil to confuse us. Don't you know that?
Dorkyndaft
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Nov 10, 2020
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Ohhh, you know your A B Cs. Very good!!
Could you explain, I'm confused............
Mvtt:
Yeh like dinosaur bones. It’s a test of faith lol
CuddyCruiser
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Nov 11, 2020
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CuddyCruiser
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Nov 11, 2020
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Word:
Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
That is sooo good!
Their “faith” is their “evidence.”
They have no “evidence” for their “faith.”
We have evidence, no faith needed.
Willow_Wisp
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Nov 10, 2020
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Religion doesn't need any evidence at all. That's kind of the point.
UpsideDownAgain
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Nov 10, 2020
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It requires blind obedience.
If their Jesus would come to earth and tell them that evolution is true, they would not believe him because they would think their faith is being tested!!!
Rodatheist
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Nov 10, 2020
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They will not accept evidence because they do not understand and do not want to understand. Even though their bible has a dating system made by Catholics they believe the actual time listed that everything was created. That's how we get a 6000 year old Earth. They also argue repeatedly that man did not come from monkeys which means they do not understand evolution. The most fundamentalist of them think dinosaur and early man skeletons along with aging of them is a trick of the devil. This fixes it because "god said it, I believe it, and that settles it."
You cannot argue with or convince a fundamentalist Evangelical Christian.
DenoPenno
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Nov 10, 2020
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Very interesting!
My current fascination is why/how are they so convinced the Bible is the word of God/divinely inspired. Many would say because Jesus believed in it. Of course the only reason to think so, reasoning circularly, is because the Bible says so. It all hinges on the Bible. For this reason I feel that the number one line of attack for getting through to the religious and undermining their faith is to expose the bible - it's dubious origins, development, contradictions, and errors. I think it would be more fruitful if more of us focused on the Bible, rather than on the lack of evidence for any god.
@Rossy92 When some church person pushes their dogma on me, I repeat what most evangelicals say: The bible is the unerring inspired word of God. I then ask about the king James version, that does it have any errors or completely error free. They always affirm that the KJV has been guided by God and therefore is error free. I then ask they where are the unicorns that are mentioned five times but do not appear in the fossil record nor exist today. Some then try to backpedal, and say that the mention of unicorns must mean a different animal...perhaps a rhinoceros to which I tell them that no, that would then be en error in that the Asian rhino (the only one with a single horn), was known back then and was never called a "unicorn". Quote from a church lady: "I don't like all those new versions of the Bible...if the King James Bible was good enough for Jesus, it is good enough for me." 
@dahermit Lol about that poor doubly ignorant church lady. While I've heard mention of the unicorn issue and intend to look further into to it just out of curiosity, it's one of those arguments which I personally would avoid in making my strongest cases. Just like the argument that the story of Christ is copied from so many other prior religions, it requires too much prior knowledge for the most people to even begin speak on, and in the end its not really a devastating argument because so much of it is speculative, and inconclusive.
@Rossy92 Yes, this is the best approach. I have no problems in not believing because of the idiocy in how the bible came into being. This includes time differences in the individual books, order of the books when made into one big book, and the many, many contradictions. The bible and the other so- called "sacred writings" all prove that man has made it all up. No gods have spoken or inspired anything at all.
When you have the unchanging word of God (No, not that version, the other one!) you don't need evidence.
GeorgeRocheleau
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Nov 10, 2020
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Faith avoids evidence.
Alienbeing
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Nov 11, 2020
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And blind to it as well.
These morons are so brainwashed they aren’t capable of understanding anything. They’re incapable of reason.
CuddyCruiser
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Nov 10, 2020
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Yes, they are incapable of reason. The reason for that is that their prefrontal cortices have been terribly damaged by the way they have been brought up.
@anglophone On the money!
Scientific models are always subject to revision as new data is discovered.
Theistic models never change. They are impervious to evidence not consistent with their beliefs.
there is no point in trying to reason with a theist. They process information differently than we do.
dumasarok
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Nov 10, 2020
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Theistic models do change but not because of evidence. They change as cultural understanding of the model shift and possibly require a change to remain relevant or to retain adherents to the faith. All the schisms within religions represent certain changes or resisting certain changes within a religion. Evolution of religions necessarily occurs even though most religions (if not all) try to deny the process.
They will just say the SCIENCE IS FLAWED
phoenixone1
Level 8
Nov 10, 2020
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That what evangelical folk already think.
They are lauded and even compete for retaining belief in the face of crushing evidence to the contrary.
Healthydoc70
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Nov 11, 2020
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It will make no difference. Evidence is a scientific term. They believe because of faith. The beginning of faith is the end of reason.
Mitch07102
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Nov 11, 2020
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It should be fully obvious by now that for them, evidence means nothing if it goes against what they believe. But just as Trump, they would accept evidence if it confirms their beliefs. Their minds are fully dysfunctional beyond repair.
Rodatheist
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Nov 10, 2020
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