And if EVERYONE was vaccinated, 100% of all deaths would be vaccinated people, and 0% of all deaths would be unvaccinated.
Congratulations on being an idiot.
This is like the stats people post who believe the earth is flat.
This is not the same kind of figures we are getting in Australia. Mostly unvaccinated people end up dead or in hospital.
If one listens to people that know their ass from a test tube they know that the vaccine is very good at preventing serious illness and death but that people may still get infected.
Anybody can make graphics and type claims. Can you provide a direct link to a CDC page that says the same thing?
My source is the Keep Maine Free Substack Page, they interperated the Maine CDC Data.
Keep Maine Free
COVID Hospitalizations at 3 Month High, as ME CDC Neglects Breakthrough Data
I don't think he is willing to do that, he wants to keep the info limited to his state's Libertarian, anti vax organization's site, not the CDC. Sounds like someone has drank the Trump Kool-Aid about the deep state...
COVID-19 Vaccine Breakthrough Data has not been updated by the ME CDC since August 16th.
They provided that data up until 16th, which that last date in the graphic.
@TheMiddleWay Confirmation bias...the source is irrelevant as it reinforces the opinion.
Months ago I explained peer review and my cat paid more attention.
I had the Pfizer double shots and double boosted too, am high risk because of high blood pressure, overweight, aortic dissection, etc. Just last month I got COVID-19, probably the omicron 5 variety, was treated with plavoxid, symptoms were less than a cold, no fever, nothing out of the ordinary, same as Biden I got the rebound after 10 days, even less symptoms, now I have the Pfizer protection, next month there will be an omicron booster already approved by the FDA today, I also have natural immunity for being positive twice, always wear the N95 mask when working, so I guess I'm really happy I got all shots regardless of any research, didn't go to any hospital or ER, much less die, so my body tells me to get the next booster and perhaps soon the virus will become totally manageable like the regular flu with yearly shots.
Most people I know have had covid at least once. Over the summer many people in my family had it. They were all vaccinated fully and their experiences were very similar to yours. My husband and I have not yet tested positive I think because we are still staying in seclusion as much as we can. However, I am a teacher and I did not work this summer. Now that summer is over I feel vulnerable. I am 60 years old, I have high BP, COPD, and diabetes . I am the only one at school who wears a mask regularly. I am aware that around half the kids are not vaccinated and I suspect a lot of the adults are not either. It scares me to see a chart like this because I feel like I am going to be a vaccinated person in the hospital.
@MyTVC15 you should be fine if you get the omicron booster this month, it was approved yesterday by the FDA, I'm 69 and an Uber driver full time, didn't get it when Uber had strict rules on mask wearing and sitting in front seat, not allowed. Then in July they relaxed the rules, masks optional and people can sit on front when it's a party of 4, that's how I think got infected after a couple of years of no contagion, you wouldn't believe the amount of passengers who don't wear a mask because optional for them means no mask and cough or sneeze while riding, don't even cover their mouths, anyway, after I got infected I decided unilaterally not to seat people in the front. Don't care what Uber says, I just don't want to expose myself again.
@Mofo1953 I really hope that I do not catch it before I am able to get the new booster. I just did a search and find that they really do not know when it will be available or how much will be available. We have scaled back the vaccine effort, I suspect it is going to be a slow roll out. We are really screwing up with monkey pox. We lead the world in MP cases. I really worry that our disease control mechanisms in the US have declined in recent year.
I'm not sure whether you're stupid or intentionally trying to mislead people, but here, per your request, is the actual data in a meaningful way.
OK so if I put up a bar chart of people with blue eyes and split it by vaccine status I would expect to see that since 81% of the total population of Maine are are fully vaccinated(1) then the bar showing vaccinated people with blue eyes would likely be 4 times the size of the bar for unvaccinated or not fully vaccinated people with blue eyes. Would you then conclude that vaccines cause blue eyes?
If you look instead at deaths and hospitalisations per 100,000 (2) then you get a more sensible indication of the effect vaccines are having
Hey ... I'm vaxxed and double boosted! Where are my blue eyes ?!?
Oh ... I forgot ... I have to move to Maine first ... damn.
@AtheistInNC what make you think you don't have blue eyes? Surely you don't fall for everything "Big Mirror" tells you?
Whodafuck keeps letting @BDair have access to a Keyboard???!!??
You probably can't understand that this statement is saying that they don't actually know what the vaccines are doing .cause of LIMITATIONS.. and then go on to claim what it says it's doing after this statement .you just want to believe they work ,all the athletes that never dropped dead before...you just ignore .. from the CDC "Summary
Several factors likely affect crude case rates by vaccination and booster dose status, making interpretation of recent trends difficult. Limitations include higher prevalence of previous infection among the unvaccinated and un-boosted groups; difficulty in accounting for time since vaccination and waning protection; and possible differences in testing practices (such as at-home tests) and prevention behaviors by age and vaccination status. These limitations appear to have less impact on the death rates presented here. CDC is assessing whether to continue using these case rate data to provide preliminary information on vaccine impact
@laidback1 we need another anti-vaxxer "researcher" on here like a fish needs a bicycle, to quote Gloria.
@TheMiddleWay I listen to scientists that aren't connected to Jeffery Epstein and have merits, multiple award winning... Robert Malone and so many others that you dismiss.. you're all fools ,you think you know so much more than these real scientists who aren't connected to Jeffery Epstein ...
@TheMiddleWay seriously not this many athletes have ever died before like this .. I'm surprised you're not blaming the unvaccinated,oh wait you can't cause they were vaccinated.. so you grasp at straws that aren't even there
@TheMiddleWay, @AnneWimsey stay standing with scientists connected to Jeffery Epstein.. I'll go with multiple award winners - who have helped invent advanced medical technology . Kary Mullis, Robert Malone.. Sanjay Gupta apologized to Joe Rogan .. get a clue already
@TheMiddleWay if I took the time to do that,you would suffer from cognitive dissonance and dismiss it .. you're so far gone..
Before jumping on the bandwagon on either side of this issue it would be best to go to the source of this data.
When I looked up "ME CDC" it took me to the state of Maine "Maine center for Disease Control and Prevention".
There is a great deal of statistical data there. I did not do a deep dive but I did not find this specific chart.
I will remain neutral here until this is verified or part of a larger body of data that may modify any conclusions.
Fake news. A total fabrication.
Get a degree in immunology or virology, then come back to apologize.
Ignant. Jus' ignant.
You mean like Robert Malone? And Gert von Vanderbosshe? Who have said these vaccines are no good . Gert predicted the variants would come from the vaccines way before it happened
The variants don't come from the vaccines. That isn't how nature works.
Please, as requested above, get a degree in immunology or virology, and come back to apologize.
@AtheistInNC a vaccine maker said that variants can come from the vaccines,fucktart.. it's called immune escape.. fuck tart... Loser
OMG you have no clue what the vaccine maker said. How sad, but so funny.
That is why you need to get an education, mr. too laidback.
The variants come from mutations of the virus, not the vaccine.
Please, as requested above twice now, get a degree in immunology or virology, and come back to apologize.
What a maroon.
@AtheistInNC he Said the vaccine caused immune excape , fucktart ,if course the fucking virus is partly why . You fuck tart .. he said it's a leaky vaccine!!
For anyone who is interested, here is the actual CDC data: [covid.cdc.gov]
You read this ? It's basically saying that they don't know what the fuck is happening and then after this Summary ,they spout Information that they just said they don't really Fucking know ... How fucking stupid are people? "Summary
Several factors likely affect crude case rates by vaccination and booster dose status, making interpretation of recent trends difficult. Limitations include higher prevalence of previous infection among the unvaccinated and un-boosted groups; difficulty in accounting for time since vaccination and waning protection; and possible differences in testing practices (such as at-home tests) and prevention behaviors by age and vaccination status. These limitations appear to have less impact on the death rates presented here. CDC is assessing whether to continue using these case rate data to provide preliminary information on vaccine impact"
Intentionally misleading. First, the time period is cherry picked. Second, since a large majority of the adult population is now vaccinated, a simple number comparison is deceptive. Redo it as a percentage comparison to get a true picture.
But, if the 'vaccines' are working you should not be seeing so many fully vaccinated people hospitalized and dieing. You are welcome to present the data in any manner you choose that you feel gives us a clearer picture.
@BDair The actual data. [covid.cdc.gov] you probably will not note how drastically all the numbers fell after the vaccines became available.
Enough of your propaganda
And just like that, NPR says Covid is dead. The CDC guidance makes no distinction between vaxxed and unvaxxed.
@TheMiddleWay What positive changes in the overall status would inform the change in precautions?
The 'leaky' nonsterilizing 'vaccines' have not been effective for the last year as they were not geared for the current viral strains. In the accompanying graphic, the trajectory of the case rates is still steeply upward. Can you point to where on the graph the dramatic effect of the 'safe and effective' biologic injections is indicated.
The death rate, although not granular enough on this chart is there.
It appears as a straight line with a consistent rise. I Could not get the chart for cumulative deaths to load.
So the vaccine was never intended to prevent infection or transmission at all? That does not sound like an effective intervention. How can they base mandates on that?
Also, the death rate never reached 'emergency pandemic' proportions. All of their prescriptions and mandates were based on elevated and exagerated case rates.
Pfizer's Emergency Use Authorization was contingent on it 'preventing' Covid.
VACCINE INFORMATION FACT SHEET FOR RECIPIENTS AND CAREGIVERS
ABOUT COMIRNATY (COVID-19 VACCINE, mRNA), THE PFIZER-BIONTECH
COVID-19 VACCINE, AND THE PFIZER-BIONTECH COVID-19 VACCINE,
BIVALENT (ORIGINAL AND OMICRON BA.4/BA.5) TO PREVENT CORONAVIRUS
DISEASE 2019 (COVID-19) FOR USE IN INDIVIDUALS 12 YEARS OF AGE AND
@TheMiddleWay They just keep changing the definitions and they have moved the goal posts so far that they are not even in the stadium. No 'vaccine' has ever failed as badly as these. Not only do they provide zero protection from anything, the adverse effects are off the charts. The NIH, FDA, and CDC have all participated in criminal malfeasence. The proverbial excrement is about to hit the fan.
@TheMiddleWay I am perfectly capable of understanding the distinction between Relative and Absolute Risk Reductions, and how they are calculated. The graphic is not comparing them, it is highlighting them and demonstrating that using only the RRR is deceptive.
They are supposed to assure you of a milder case of Covid if you are vaxxed and do get the disease. You know, sort of like the flu vaccines. At no time or place did anyone say get these shots and you will not get Covid. Being vaccinated is called an immunization but it does not mean you become "immune" from Covid. Antivaxxers want to argue that one forever and they know what is going on. It's just that they will not shut up. People behind the vaccines want you to take them because some people actually do have to pay for them and the companies make money this way. It is also believed that if you do not die you might be a candidate to buy many of the useless products being pushed worldwide these days. Yes, they make a profit when you buy products.
On the other hand, my cousins friends uncle knows a man who got the shot and died an hour later. There are many of these stories. Then you have my real cousin who got Covid and went to the hospital with it, then died later after they approved him to leave. Then there is myself who got Covid 2 years ago and I did not work for a month but I survived. I also had 2 doses of Moderna. BTW, Covid is slowly sneaking back. My son-in-law has it pretty bad right now.
Biden is on record saying the shots will prevent infection. Rachael Maddow said the jabs would stop the virus cold.
Countless times they said that the vaccine would work.. Wtf is wrong with you .. fucking a ...
There's so much missing here which makes it useless, except to the person who took this most narrow view. They obviously jumped to the conclusion they wanted by selecting data in a way that seems to support it, leaving everything else out. This isn't science, it's manipulation and coercion. It's like throwing a rock into the air and concluding you can magically defy gravity and levitate solid objects. Not buying it. (coercion = attempting to influence by using negative power. Lying to people by way of omitting the whole truth is a form of negative power.)
Several factors likely affect crude case rates by vaccination and booster dose status, making interpretation of recent trends difficult. Limitations include higher prevalence of previous infection among the unvaccinated and un-boosted groups; difficulty in accounting for time since vaccination and waning protection; and possible differences in testing practices (such as at-home tests) and prevention behaviors by age and vaccination status. These limitations appear to have less impact on the death rates presented here. CDC is assessing whether to continue using these case rate data to provide preliminary information on vaccine impact" ... Yup... Yup...
@laidback1 Yes. I had a girlfriend who was a medical technologist and who became a pathologist. She was constantly studying. I'm also a fan of science and liked to talk about what she was learning. I understood it but grew bored with it by the end. You have to be in that headspace to keep from falling asleep after awhile, but mainly you see where something is going and it usually doesn't change the more to verify. Most people don't go to the extreme lengths of learning as someone who becomes a pathologist, that's why they make the big bucks and get all the respect - it's for good reason and because they can reason. This guy only knows enough to dig himself a hole he can't get out of. He's just silly.
The longer the fools continue to double down on listening to scientists connected to Jeffrey Epstein ,the worse things will be .. it's unreal how they can dismiss real scientists with merit because the news media smears them.
As the news media was caught on hot mic , Megan Kelly I believe it was ,was bragging how she almost got to interview a victim of Jeffery Epstein and the prince... It's like wtf.. some will probably think oh yeah fox news would cover that up ..as all the media most likely knew . Where is Ghislaine Maxwell's client list? Yeah no one cares about that .. children being raped to control people is totally okay with them
Well no, actually. Resident people who can see the inherent error in your statement, and the fact that it makes your statement fundamentally invalid, have pointed out that error to you - and you are, yourself, 'triggered' by the fact that you cannot make false statements without people telling you they're false.
Unfortunately that's the way reality works.
You have two options. Either stop making inherently false claims, or get used to being called out on them.
Oh sorry - option three, just keep going as you are and hear people laughing at you.
@TheMiddleway you presume that your positions and opinions are correct, but it ain't necessarily so. My opinions are backed by medical research and literature. Not all scientists and experts agree with one another.
Nobody really knows the correct answers to CDC covid data. The Courts order the CDC to release full covid data. CDC said they are not ready to release full data for 75 years. Meanwhile our owners use lack of information as a weapon against the public.
Or perhaps not.
COVID-19 cases among individuals who have been fully vaccinated are referred to as vaccine breakthrough cases. Hospitalizations and deaths among these cases are referred to as vaccine breakthrough hospitalizations and deaths. A person is considered fully vaccinated 14 days after completing a primary COVID-19 vaccine series (e.g., 2 doses of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines, or 1 dose of the J&J vaccine). FDA-approved COVID-19 vaccines are extremely safe and effective and prevent many infections, hospitalizations, and deaths. However, these vaccines are not 100% effective, and vaccine breakthrough cases are expected. Studies elsewhere in the U.S. have found that people who have COVID-19 infection after vaccination are far less likely to have severe disease (including hospitalization and death) than people who were not vaccinated. Additional and booster doses, when recommended, provide additional protection against infection, hospitalization, and death, and are not reflected in the figures shown here.
He's either an idiot or intentionally trying to fool people; either way it's dangerous thinking.