You really haven't a clue.. NASA is full of Nazis,butchers murderers and freaks of the Reich.. Ukraine is full of Nazi freaks, Russia isn't perfect but the western powers have given Russia a helping hand to get away with commiting to war as their last resort

I think it's all a game.. I think Putin is most likely in on it

You can't fucking fuck with people and not have war ..

Ethnic Russians arrested for just speaking a language? Children at schools bombed? Russia had to respond to it...

It's like they get game pieces to play .. andthe world taking sides in the game..

You think it's wrong Russia is using war tactics to fight people who are responsible for acts of war ?

They should all be peaceful Right? Takes both sides to do that ...

@laidback1 You're so badly brainwashed it's not possible to talk sensibly with you. Sorry not to be able to help you but the lapses in your education are too big for one person to take on.

@Gwendolyn2018 Thank you. I will block him once he's had a chance to see my response so he'll know why.

The same people who condemn the West for 'meddling' would be the first to condemn it for doing nothing. Their arguments are only logical in as far as they're preceded by 'patho-'.

@Gareth republicans John McCain and Lindsey graham and Democrats Biden ect ,funny how they are all together on this ? If you actually look into it you'd see Nazis are actually in Ukraine.. but you won't look .. you'll just be a little bitch

Putin ordered the Ukraine government to bomb a children's school? Putin ordered the Ukraine government to arrest ethnic Russians for speaking Russian? Putin ordered the Ukraine government to kill journalists? To order the death of a little girl for writing a book ? Okay Buddy

@laidback1 The moment you resorted to personal insult you lost the argument. You've chosen genocide and dictatorship, I've chosen democracy and freedom. I won't get down to your level - I'll leave it at that.

@Druvius I know Americans trying to get out of Russia who can't find a plane ticket because Russians are leaving as fast as they can to avoid the draft. In other words I think you might be mistaken about kittens popularity right now.

@TheMiddleWay Russia was an allie, until Assad invited them to Syria and they quickly stopped the truck convoys removing oil to fund ISIS (remember that? And the "Wests inability to stop the coveys after months?). That's when Russia entered the bad books. Proxy war 1.0 started in Syria. Ukraine is 2.0.
This talk of declaring Russia a terrorist state is the same "logic" warmongers in the US used when declaring wikileaks a non-state intelligence service. A new delegation of status will unleash new resources ie Is it not the role of the Pentagon to seek out and destroy "terrorists" compliments of the Patriot Act? They will be duty bound to attack Russia.

@TheMiddleWay Syria is an Arab country. If you wish to be a secular country in the Arab world, you need strong leaders to stand up to fanatics, mostly of the religious types. These leaders will be respected but harsh. Not to Western tastes but who is to judge? A different society/ culture is all, no need to judge. Up to them what works.
Ghaddafi, Hussain, Assad all allowed minorities to exist. Secular societies. Not nice people but respected, providing stability and security. All sovereign countries.
Remember, Assad was an accepted member of the civilized world before the Arab Spring. Damascus is a cosmopolitan city. Obama was arming al Nusra to help "moderates" topple Assad remember? The only extremists left can be found where the US bases are, not where the Syrian Army has control.
One common denominator is both countries are middle men for pipelines suppling energy to Europe. US was against both, Russia for.

It's hard to have diplomacy when one side is violating international law and insulting and threatening those who uphold it.

@Gareth No-one is upholding international law. Plenty ignore it

@puff Well, you're certainly not.

I would suggest the world's reaction to NATO moving into Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Syria and even the former Yugoslavia may have encouraged Putin he had a pass. Pity none spoke up. The reaction to the Saudi's murdering in embassies ie nothing again, also encouraged him.
Then when 3 permanent members of the UN security council, UK/ France/ USA, take it upon themselves to revenge strike Syria over a disproved gas attack without UN approval, and nothing happened, may have also encouraged Putin.
Putin is no angel, but he is not the devil incarnate either. To borrow your first line;
"How could it have been settled peacefully when NATO has stated, many years ago, it would not expand eastward.

@Druvius Now Obama is in it. Keep this up. Maybe Clinton had something to do with it too. How about Bush? I bet this goes all the way back to Eisenhower.

@puff "NATO has stated, many years ago, it would not expand eastward." Not true. Get your facts right.

@Gareth Ok, try this then.

Former leaders of countries comprising NATO gave Russia assurances the NATO alliance would not expand East at the fall of the USSR.
[eurasiareview.com]

@puff Various western figureheads at different times assured USSR officials that NATO did not intend to expand eastwards. That was not a NATO commitment. In case you didn't know, NATO is an alliance of independent states and nobody has any authorisation to speak on NATO's behalf without unanimous approval of all members. NATO never issued any such guarantee and no treaty was ever proposed, much less signed, which would have incorporated it into law. In any event, no intention expressed towards the USSR would have any validity after the dissolution of that entity. And remember that every NATO country is a member at its own request through a freely elected government and is at liberty to leave at any time. You may not like it, but that's democracy.

@Druvius You say both that Ukraine had no claim to Crimea and that Obama handed it to Russia. Make up your mind.

@Gareth Which is why agreements made with the US are not worth the paper they are written on

@puff My whole post was to demonstrate that there was no paper.

@Gareth and that makes it OK? Kurds disagree.

@puff Try to focus on what the other person has said before changing the subject.

@Gareth There are plenty of records/ transcripts of meetings between the USSR leadership and European (NATO) leadership where assurances were made NATO would not expand eastwards, rather than a contract or agreement as such. I mean what was going to happen if any such agreement was broken? Put the USSR back together?
Glasnost and Perestroika was Gorbachev's legacy which had to be sold not only to the Kremlin but Russian/ Soviet people as well. The fall of the USSR would not have happened if assurances regarding NATO expansion were not made at that time. For NATO et al to turn around 30 years later and say "We never signed any agreement" is a denial of what actually happened and a devious betrayal that may have severe consequences.

@puff Without treaties and signatures, politician's words are worthless, Everyone knows this. Putin himself publicly promised to respect the borders of Ukraine in 2006 and 2008 and even not to invade as recently as this year (never mind "30 years" ). Even in America, politicians have been know to lie - who remembers "No new taxes" or "We'll build a wall and Mexico will pay for it"? If people believe such promises and are disappointed it is entirely their own fault. If you don't have a legally binding contract you're just whining. Russia however DID sign the Budapest Memorandum guaranteeing Ukraine's sovereignty within its then borders. That alone would justify the US's unlimited assistance as a co-signatory. Liars are everywhere, but the worst of them is the Kremlin.