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Holiday Blues Depression? I'm curious if anyone else feels these annual blues kick in? Do you just let the depression resolve itself when the weather changes?

This is a long post - sorry - it helps me to write things out. If depressing subjects isn't your thing, then scroll on by. Happy for advice from anyone else who suffers from holiday blues though.

I know myself, so I know to expect some self loathing and depression during the holidays. It happens every year, and so I do what I can to just go with it, with faith that I'll return to normal come January 1st.

I give in to my self destructive behavior for a month or so. My body can handle that. Someday, maybe I'll be able to get through the holidays without all the sadness and disregard for self care, but I give myself a pass due to personal grief during that time.

So, I always look forward to January 1st, the day of new beginnings, a re-invention of my better self.

Sadly, that hasn't happened for me yet this year. I was all geared to get a head start on my happy new year, but I hit a bump, which set me back a few days in my "new start" so I'm thinking now, that will be January 8th or 9th before I'll start my self love and care toward getting back to the me I like to be.

Giving myself a deadline for my blues usually helps, but this year, I'm going to delay that deadline. I like to envision a light at the end of the tunnel.

I used to attribute it to Seasonal Affective Disorder, which might still be the case even though I live in Hawaii now. I still just stay indoors during the holidays and only get out for my walk or bike ride as the sun is going down. I'm still dealing with the same personal memories and the anniversaries of the deaths of people close to me, along with feelings of deficiency that I can't seem to be the happy jolly person around the holidays people expect, though I do try. I tell people in advance not to expect that of me and that has helped immensely with my feelings of deficiency in the "Joy" department.

This year, I made the mistake of spending a few hours on NYE with my covert narcissist ex-bf, out of pity that he was all alone while I always have a good seat at the best party in town. All fine and good, until the next day when the nasty emails started up again - there's a reason he's my ex.

So in addition to my usual holiday funk, I had this personal drama to suck the joy out of my life for a few more days. I'm so looking forward to getting out of this funk within the next week and back to my usual happy outlook in life. I'm just lamenting that it's taking longer than usual this year.

I will need to do some healthy remedial work to get back there this year with better diet, exercise, more sunshine, etc., but not today. It's raining, but also, I'm just not feeling the "self care" just yet. Gotta get over feeling stupid first. I have faith that I'll feel better in a few days time.

Julie808 8 Jan 4
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Sorry, but if you know the ex is like that, why engage, and for sure why engage for 3 nanoseconds after he again reveals himself to you? BLOCK
him Immediately ferpetesake, when or if he calms down you can unblock him IF there are children involved...otherwise Never.
Nobody can abuse you if you do not let them!!!!!!!!

Yep, 99% of the time we're able to keep our distance. It only takes him passing me in a car or seeing something online about me that will set him off in a rant with insults and accusations. I usually end up blocking him.

On a small island where friends help friends, we agreed to be there for each other in an emergency. We know better, but there is that one percent of the time that we think we can be decent toward each other, but nope! Just doesn't happen.

I normally have big walls up where he is concerned, but I fell for taking pity on him for NYE, which was a trick he played on me that I shouldn't have fallen for. Guess I could have stayed home, but I also didn't want to curtail my activity just because he's in my neighborhood on my turf for the week.

@Julie808 Only you can decide who earns your trust. You can teach people how to treat you and if they don't treat you the way you should be treated then, it is up to you to create the boundaries. Take care of your mental health because they won't. Be good to yourself. 🙂

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Hoping you get out of it soon.

I detest the "holiday season" for multiple reasons. None of which I will bore you with.
Basically, my course of action is to withdraw. I'm done with putting on a happy face for others. Other people's expectations are not my problem.
I'm not spending another minute worrying about what anyone else thinks.
My peace is all that matters.
If you detract from my peace, I will cut you loose. With no remorse.

I know my way probably won't work for anyone but me, but now that I've figured it out, I refuse to go back.

Yep, that's pretty much how I handle things. I've been dealt a sad hand and I make the best of it, for the most part, but also feel comfort in keeping some days special alone to myself to give in to grief and feel comfort in my surroundings.

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Seasonal Affective Disorder may still be contributing to your mood, changing latitude may not be enough to cure it. Mine lessened a bit but it is there every year.

The winter holidays are brutal for many people. Anniversaries of negative events don't make it easier. The expectation that all should be in good spirits and/or in a Norman Rockwell painting is just plain bullshit! Take that idea out with the trash and watch the truck pick it up and take it to a landfill where it belongs. If avoiding others for a few days in December makes your life better that is what counts. If others feel differently about that choice let them, it's about your mental health and not theirs.

Be kind to yourself. A bit of exercise outside in daylight is a good strategy. There are lights that you can use that simulate daylightr that many find helpful. Light therapy may work better if started early in December and used through winter. It's ok if some years the crappy period is longer or shorter as we are human, not calendars. Tossing the expectations and being proactive will help immensely. Giving yourself permission is being kind to yourself.

MizJ Level 8 Jan 5, 2023

Hear! Hear!

Yep, that's my strategy when I can stick to it. Even though I live in a sunny climate, when I'm depressed I end up just being lazy inside and not going out in the sunshine. I try to get out for a walk or bike ride each evening, but it's probably not enough daylight to combat the seasonal depression.

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Treat yourself to nutritious healthy food and get some exercise. Maybe take some apple pectin to cleanse the heavy metals out of your system. Hope you feel better. Resolve to minimize and eliminate contact with toxic people. Good luck.

Yep, my intentions are good for the healthy food and outdoor exercise, but sometimes I just can't make that happen. I think just writing it out helped a bit as well. Thanks.

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There is a tried and true way of coping with the silly season that works.
CONVENE WITH THE SPIRITS!!!!!
They will guide and comfort you
Jack Daniels. Johnny Walker, Pernot et al

Yes, that's sadly I do let the "spirits" comfort me during particularly hard days. I don't get a lot of guidance from them though, haha. Guess that's why I ignore them come January.

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My holiday season is actually several events. December 5, my son’s birthday, December 16 was my wedding with his mother. We have been separated/divorced for 23 years. December 25 Christmas, December 26 the day said wife went into a comma 5 years ago and died several weeks later. January 1 New Years, or as I say same shit, different calendar. And finally January 5 my birthday. Add to those finding out my first son was diagnosed with leukemia at 11 months old about two weeks before Christmas. Several Christmas’ while separated from my wife when we spent Christmas as a “ family” instead of being with the woman I was actually seeing at the time. My third wife announcing she was leaving me after the holidays because she was in love with a coworker about 15 years ago.
I basically go into a mind comma for a month, I participate as little as possible in family celebrations, not at all in non family events. No shopping! Cards and checks. I make a Prime Rib dinner on Christmas Day, Pork and sauerkraut New Years Day and dinner out on my birthday. Often by myself, but fine if someone wants to join me. This year it was the ex that dumped me 15 years ago. We are friends and neither of us have anyone else.
So I sympathize with you and the others who don’t like the holidays, but I don’t let it depress me. I just patiently wait for it to be over and life to return to normal.

Yep, that's me, just waiting for the holidays to end. If it were me, I'd rip out the whole month of December out of the calendar.

My dad died on Christmas Day and my mom died on the Day after Christmas, on different years, plus there are other sad anniversaries and happy birthdays during that week. I just like to give myself time to embrace those feelings and try to have patience until those days are over. Just human feelings everyone feels, but it's a bit hard while everyone else is celebrating. I can only handle one feeling at a time.

@Julie808 That is wise. One at a time. Allow yourself to feel and express those feelings. I like to write when I feel overwhelmed and I have also punched pillows and screamed and cried into them. Whatever you are feeling it is okay. It will pass, and hopefully the next time it might not be as bad. You are never alone and you will always have someone here that will hear you.

Happy escape from the womb day! It's my b-day also!🥳

@silverotter11 Happy Birthday to silverotter11 and Barnie2years!!!!

@silverotter11 I knew there was something I liked about you!! 😁🎉🎂

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To the contrary,I am pleased when the holidays are over,as I have had my fill of the over the top feeling of enforced cheer,simply to disguise the rampant commercialism and greed behind this.I used to enjoy this time of year,but,it no longer means what it did,and,has been rendered unenjoyable.

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The holiday season was hard for me as well and I ended up in a dark place for a little while. I found talking and sharing with a trusted and valued friend help me to get through it and set me back on track.

Take care of yourself, you are not alone. 🙂

Betty Level 8 Jan 4, 2023

Yes, I suppose that's why I posted here, since I don't really have anyone I feel comfortable sharing with at this time in my life. I usually just wait it out, but I think I'm losing patience with myself this year. 😉

@Julie808 I understand the feeling.

@Julie808 To have someone you can talk to that is a good listener and will understand why the withdrawal is preferable at certain times can be very comforting. It is nice to be heard. Share what is comfortable, build the trust and make a friend. It will help. Take care of yourself, you are important. 🙂

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It sounds like you know what you need to do and you will do it when you feel the time is right.

Stop beating yourself up for acting in a decent way to your ex. There's always the possibility that someone has given him a lobotomy.

A lobotomy? Probably not; he very likely has been doing the same to others.

Yep, I know what to do, but just have a hard time doing it and am losing patience with myself, since I'm still in the doldrums a few days longer than usual.

Can't help beating myself a little for my stupidity in taking pity on my ex-bf every year or so. Get burned every time I try to do him a favor as a friend. He knows exactly what he's doing. He does have problems, but doesn't seem to want to get help.

Yes, we had a bit of a discussion about why he treats women the way he does. He revealed some things about his childhood, so I can understand, but gosh he's in his mid-sixties and has had plenty of time to recognize his problems and get help.

Unfortunately he is drawn to people who are helpful and empathetic, and that's how innocent people like me get hurt. He apologizes and then does the same thing again. I know better, but keep getting snookered.

@Julie808 I believe you have found yourself a support group. We will be here for you if you need us. 🙂

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I like the festive holiday season. To me it is one holiday from Thanksgiving to New Year's Day. Not blue afterwards , but I do not look forward to the winter months of January and February. I always feel much better when the warmth returns.

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Yep. Every year. But I start watching the ground for new sprouts this time of the year. In between the power outages and the cold, I'm just waiting for the sun. I want to feel my feet again.

Yep, the darkness is temporary and new fresh life comes shortly. Just need patience for that to happen.

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I think the first resolve would be to never have contact with the ex again ever. BTDT, I gave my ex 2 second chances. I was finally done, rebuffed 2 attempts to woo me back. The final attempt turned ugly, the true colors came out, even he knew he'd blown it. The moral of course is stay firm, do not give in. There can never be a friendship. Stop letting him suck the joy! Don't beat up on yourself for letting him suck the joy. You can NOT change HIM!! The only one you can change is you. Never let him near you again. The best thing I ever did with my ex was go out to the woods and sit on the ground amongst the trees and resolve to not give any energy to him/the relationship ever again. It really did work!
It's a boundary issue, you have set your boundaries too low. Toss any old "lesson" about caring for others before you care for yourself out the friggin' window. Look in the mirror and smile at yourself then go outside and breath. I also think you are not breathing well when in this funk. Relax, breath and release the shitty feelings.

@Gwendolyn2018 I KNOW! Just one of the most annoying things about narcissist! There is no looking inward.

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In an earlier post you said words to the effect that there are some people that you just have to cut out of your life. If I find that someone is not willing to be reasonable and prefers to indulge in psychodrama, I give that person a wide berth. Life is too short to spend time in the company of someone who drags you down and is a drain on your energy.

Yep, I've cut him out of my life, but it's a small island and he makes a re-appearance now and then in the same space I am. Each year I'm able to dispatch him more easily after our short interactions, and I'm not nearly as emotionally invested in the interactions as I once was.

I'm successful 99.5% of the time avoiding him. I just get too optimistic that he can be normal after running into each other, but it's just not in him to be. I'm handling it the best way I can. I was just venting - I know that distance is the best thing - but hard to do in a small community.

@Julie808 I totally get where you are coming from and in such circumstances it is not always possible to avoid someone. Some people take longer than others to let go of someone and move on but it is all just a matter of time.

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I withdraw from societal interaction as much as possible from Thanksgiving to NYE and am good with it.

That's me too, also Thanksgiving to NYE. Usually that's my way of coping with things. Both sad and glad to know I'm not the only person who withdraws from social interaction for the most part.

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As @Betty says, take care of yourself, you are not alone.

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I know a few who absolutely hate the winter holiday season. They equate this time to a loss of respect/separation of family members as a result of being treated with disrespect during the holidays.

For me, this season is just another day. Usually a friend from the coast comes home (I purchased his childhood home when his parents died) to visit his sisters and their offspring that live in town. During his stay he takes over one of my spare bedrooms and the kitchen. We usually talk for many hours and catch a few movies in my basement theater. This year he had surgery so he did not make it to town. I haven't fired up the projector in over a month.

Yesterday I attended the funeral of a 20-year old who died on Christmas day. I can imagine his mother will forever hate the winter holiday season.

Hope you find a pleasant method/experience to cope with this not pleasant time.

Yes, I've adopted several methods to get through the hard days, but I usually snap out of it by now.

@Julie808 You will. We are here for you. 🙂

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Not the right person to ask, I guess, because I never get depressed, I don't dislike much less hate any time of year, I don't revisit anything or anybody out of pity or out of any other reason that is unhealthy, because I choose not to do so.

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The seasonal thing is something many of us deal with, wish I could afford to move to Hawaii. At least it's above freezing here - 33 degrees. Be well, we're all here for you!

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I have had my problems with depression around the holidays for years. My problem is a combination of Seasonal Affectation Disorder and Dysthymia, which means that for me normal is slightly depressed anyway. Not only is this time of year dark, but all of the focus on "good cheer" and the pressure to always be happy tended to have the opposite effect. To make things worse for years I worked in a windowless building where I worked a lot of overtime and there were days where except for a brief lunch break I never saw the sun at all. Memories of Christmas from childhood were always good ones, but as an adult I put too much expectation of a fantasy holiday that could not deliver. That just made things worse.

Things are different now, though. Being retired from a stressful job helps that, but using Sam-e every morning and getting more sun helps a lot. I don't have the negative associations with the holiday that you do. I have come to terms with it all and do my best to enjoy the time that I have. You can't change the past. You can only deal with the present. Don't do things that are bad for you, and if that includes the holidays and your ex then you don't need them. Find the things that make you happy and avoid the things that don't. That is not always possible, but you can make it a goal even if you fall short occasionally.

I mostly credit the Sam-e, but I could be wrong.

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I'm sorry that you have trouble getting through this. Rather than have holiday blues the way most people do, it's always getting past the monetary elements of this for me, then getting back on the right track in January. I do have holiday blues but they are of a time past for me. No gifts, no trees, no nonsense. My reasoning is that Christmas time is for kids and I'm way past kid age now. Of course this would all change if others lived here with me. Years ago I thought of myself as a watcher, an observer. This seems to have blended in with my way of thinking totally. I live alone and have no resolutions of "getting back on track" that I must do. One cheery thing for me was that my ex called the 3rd to wish me a Happy New Year. We talked through some issues together and I made her laugh as usual. Maybe that is why she calls. There are times we all just need a laugh and to get back on track. This time our phone call was just over an hour but they have been known to go 4 hours. If anyone has the blues over high food prices I just found out everything is really expensive in Dallas. Good thing my ex has a good job. At one time she worked for Raytheon Corporation but has moved on.

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I like the festive atmosphere, but I don't like it when it starts feeling like Groundhog Day. After all, we do a lot of stuff 'by default', and I'm not good at it - I get bored quickly. This could contribute to depression. I find breaking routines, even only in a small way, helpful.

Ryo1 Level 8 Jan 5, 2023
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There is so much pressure to be happy and jolly and spend time with family at Christmas and other holidays. Well not everyone has family that they can or want to do it with. Far too much emphasis on this. Just remember This too will pass. Take care.

Yep. I think that's why I cry when listening to Tim Minchin's "White Wine in the Sun" song, because he talks about seeing his 'Dad, his brother, his sisters, his Gran and his Mum. They'll be drinking white wine in the sun...'

Hard for me, but also comforting in a way, because I actually live in the very space my parents would always spend Christmas. They've all been gone for decades now, and of course, my "gran" is also gone, plus I lost by brother a couple of years ago.

So, that song makes me cry -- but also laugh because of the wonderful lyrics of the song I agree with so much. Kind of a ritual for me to listen to that song and have a good cry. The other family members, I'm fine doing without, and they all have happier ways to spend their holidays and that's good with me.

It's not that I feel alone, and not because things aren't as they were, which is actually a good thing, but they never will be how they could have been either. I'm sure all children of dysfunctional families mourn for the family that never was the kind of family we see portrayed in movies and on TV.

@Julie808 Yes, movies and TV has a lot to answer for. It is all just bollocks. Most families I know always seem to have a lot of pressure at Christmas time. There are always or almost always someone who will start an argument.

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I always find Xmas & all the commercialism & forced joviality that goes with it to be depressing.
Fortunately we have been able to spend 13 of the last 15 xmases in Mesa, AZ where it is almost always sunny & warm & less depressing.

Yes, I think if I were to travel away from my home, it would be more of an adventure rather than a sad trip down memory lane.

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Hopefully writing about your experiences made you feel better.

I had a challenging time a while back, I just checked out for a year to recover. Some ups and downs, but finally building some resilience and motivation.

Wishing you all the best in your recovery.

Thanks. Yes, knowing this is a temporary thing for me helps, as I know I'll get through it as the season changes. Seems to happen every year. I'm already feeling better, especially as the additional unexpected stress has been removed.

I've designated today as the day to take small steps back to my normal happiness and actually got a head start yesterday, so I'm going the right direction.

I'm usually a very happy person and I know the steps to take to get back to that frame of mind. It does help writing it out and sharing with others.

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I'm feeling it as well, like a heavy viral load

Yep, but we know the seasons keep changing and life returns to more normal and happier routines.

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