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A pastor told me today that he is sorry that I have not felt the love of god. Pastor, I am the one who is sorry.
I'm sorry you believe a god who does not seem interested in loving everyone.
I'm sorry you feel the need to apologize for this "all loving" creator.
I'm sorry your religion would have you believe people are incapable of loving each other without this watch-dog divinity.
I'm sorry your happiness in this life relies on hope of the next.
I'm sorry you can't see that we don't need a god to be good, or loved.
I'm sorry for all the wonder your faith would have you ignore in favor of fairy tales.
For all the confusion in doctrine.
For lies of zealouts.
For the guilt brought on by your own humanity.
For all the delusions your mind has been forced through fear to accept, you have my deepest sympathies.

Foxonaut 5 Dec 8
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Well said!

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I'm sorry he's wasted his miserable life.

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I always want to respond to that line of talk with "I am sorry you're wasting your life misleading and wasting other people's lives with your faith in your religious fantasty." But I don't out of respect for freedom to do whatever stupid thing you want with your time on this rock.

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The love of god, ha

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Ok so the pastor is sorry/feels sorrow. do you have to? do you have to respond in the pastor's terms? I'll bet you're good. You have an authentic life and belief system (feel free to specify). YOU ARE GOOD!!. go forward

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God is a stalker!

A stalker. Sir may I suggest you got this wrong. He is nothing.

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So sad their god allowed the Holocaust to happen.

Funny way to show love alright. James

"But we just HAVE to TRUST that God knows what he is doing and we don't understand". That's what I hear from Christians.

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You can't feel what is NOT there!!!!! True story: I was standing out in the entrance of a church during the church service. In walked a transvesite (we call them Mahu in Hawaii). I welcomed the person and encouraged them to go into the sanctuary and join the service. I noticed the reluctance in her body language and told her it was ok...please come in.

Unfortunately she took my advice and walked into the church sanctuary. Upon her entrance, the church folk turned around in their seats and gazed at this person as though she had walked out of a sewer. Facial expressions and all!! No love of god anywhere to be found. Embarrassed and hurt, she left the church and never came back.

The Bible encouraged.."Whosoever will let him/her come" Ironically that churches motto was..."YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO BE FREE"
The biggest line of B.S. I had ever heard!!!

One thing for certain though, I did have a right to be free from religious judgement, condemnation and B.S. I left the church!!

That book, which as a non christian I have read says let you who are without guilt throw the first stone. The Bible is full of yarns. They were handed down tribally around campfires generation to generation. There was no written language during the time "Christ" was supposedly on Earth. It was between the 5th/6th when the apostles were written down. Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. The John that wrote Revelations fasted for 2 months on an island when he came up with that crock people try to find symbolism in. It does have some point historically, but by no means can be read literally as the UMMM Gospel. It is filled with stories to frighten some or teach something about how to live. It is by no means a book to base a belief in a GOD on. God is never seen in the Bible, but only speaks or is seen through others. It is just what it is, a book that uneducated people seen the earth go black, thought a GOD must have did it. Not the knowledge of an eclipse then. It has to be put into perspective. I am sure Noah and the ark is a cute story people told their children that put a pretty little bow on the existence of men, but that is it. There is still no reason to rain on another's parade, unless your lack of ability to believe makes you jealous. Me, I intend to die and become a particle in the universe.

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If your god is ok with all the suffering in the world. Then your god is a Tyrant who needs to be brought down. That's just my opinion

What would you have God do? Execute Judgement on he wicked?

Your right my friend. But in reality he’s not, who? Because he doesn’t exit.

Your right my friend. But in reality he’s not, who? Because he doesn’t exit.

@wmou he done a good job on doing it to the good.

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That is some 'read'...thank you!

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Amen!

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I shall relate the story of my older brother. We grew up in evangelical type church which was fun as a child. When we were teens an evangelist came to town on a slavation tour. That service went on and on and on. I was twelve. I wanted to be saved. So I prayed and prayed. At the end the preacher asked had anyone received salvation. My brother raised his hand. I was shocked. He hated everything that church stood for. I recall my parents were happy about this, while I sulked on the way home. To me my brother was the incarnation of evil. Years later we are sitting in a bar. I said to him, what did it feel like to get saved that day. "Oh that. Remember that girl Rhonda"? I did because she was very pretty. "Well she said I would never get in her pants until I was saved. So I faked it". Again I was shocked. "You mean you faked being saved in church"? "Yeah", he said. "Why not, everyone else did". Then he told me to ask my mom what went on there. Only later did my Mom tell me the truth of the what was really going on. Of people having sex with other men's wives, of all the adultery taking place. Even the preacher was in on it. That is why he suddenly fled the church. One of the men found out about him and his wife and went to his house with a gun. "And did you", I asked my brother "Get in her pants". "Yeah, she was alright".

That sounds like a novel. Simply amazing, but my mother would never tell me if those things went on in our church. When I was older I saw similar to your story. It would make no difference to most believers though. They say a church is for sinners. Then they'll turn around and say a person wouldn't do the things if they prayed more. Theres no data check.

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I hope you didn’t give him any money?

Leon Level 5 May 7, 2018
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God seems like a disturbed ex-girlfriend.

What God?

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I really believe a high percentage of pastors really don't believe in the Bible or in what they are teaching.
You might google a story about a woman pastor in a church out west that finally admitted she is an atheist. However, the members like her so much they want her to stay anyway but the national Baptist (or whatever religion) said she has to go. funny

Why should they, there is nothing to believe except the tax free job they have.

If you haven’t seen the movie Marjoe I would recommend it.

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I hatearguments that are totally emotional appeal.

Emotion, that’s where your problem is my friend. Simply apply logic, this quickly sorts out the shit. James

All 12’s. Just as well they were not bakers as with a backers dozen it 13. If this was the case there would be more of them. Spare me the thoughtplease. James

i hate judgemental arguments when no one knows on any level of emotion or science who is right or wrong. Treat them like humans for that is what they are, don't kick and beat them and make fun of them. None of what you do is productive. Perhaps you should volunteer at children's? A child dying is the loss of a human life at a minimum and should not be mocked and made fun of. This behavior is horrid.

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You could always show him this video:

The REAL Truth About Religion And Its Origins

Is this a new TV drama fiticius

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Do you know he thinks that way? What denomination? The Bible does not teach such things.

wmou Level 4 May 11, 2018

Your right. The bible doesn’t teach anything. It’s even confused itself with contradiction. James

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May I suggest that you don’t even bother yourself making yourself upset. Simply get the switch in your brain and switch it off, for your sake and it’s only about you. God won’t mind, he’s not there anyway. James

Leon Level 5 May 12, 2018
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Great comeback. Far more sophistcated than my "Oh do fuck off" 🙂

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Theres a lot of insight in your post.

Some people's "happiness in this life relies on hope of the next" and they fret about how awful this life is compared to their fantasized next. Therefore, their happiness is robbed.

Perhaps these people should get into the real world, deal with the cards they have and not with the cards they wished they had. James

I could give a rat's ass what you, any of you, 45 the demonic hawg leading the free world, the queen, any dukes, princesses. duchesses, any of that upper 2% of American mobsters that steal the small man's money while the lie and live in luxury. I am for humanity. NOT their race, their belief, their money, or their status. I fight for those of us who cannot be heard. If I help or save anyone, I am a happy person. I allow NO one, not a mother, father, or some GOD to run my life. I prefer to fuck it up myself.

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The only part of the Royal Wedding (which, let's face it, was different) that I couldn't stand was all the religion. They did fly the Countess of Sussex's flag though (AKA the stars and stripes). Megan's mum was a bit tearful though donchathink?

Also I found out today that someone I thought was a friend has ripped me off £1900 over the last couple of weeks (I leave my door open, she knows where my wallet is and must have watched me putting my PIN number into an ATM). Still hard to believe it but there's no other possible explanation.

OK, she has a previous criminal conviction for fraud but it still hurts.

Blackbird came to see me in my garden and sat on the fence looking hopeful. I am an angler and we use maggots as bait. I feed them to the fish in my pond. Threw the blackbird a few. It hoovered them up and then sodded off without so much as a backwards glance.
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Sodding fucking sodding criminal woman brought me a black tomato plant. Probably deadly nightshade.

OK, I'm upset.

(Good post BTW)

she will be a Duchess of Sussex. Harry becomes Duke. Duke and Duchess of Sussex.

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Copycat kings

Christianity is nothing more than a patchwork quilt of ancient pagan and mystery religions.” The Church borrowed heavily from pagan deities already in existence or long before the time of Jesus. Rejected by the academic community, because historical facts don’t support it, it lingers as a vague idea in popular culture. it’s quickly apparent that the differences are actually much greater than any commonalities.

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I was raised in Puerto Rico. Because the public education sucks and it can be even dangerous, my parents put me on a private, American, Catholic school. The nuns were from an American order and I cannot remember the name. The priests came from Spain and there were also lay teachers that were not religious, meaning that they were not priests or nuns.

One time they took all the male students in my class to have weekly lectures about masturbation. Most of us were laughing at it. It took over two weeks and this priest could not really explain masturbation. Under pressure of the students, one of them gets up from his chair and asked directly to the priest if masturbation was bad or sinful. The poor priest did not know where to put his face, totally embarrased. He said masturbation was not really sinful and other stuff that I did not understand. This was a long time ago so my memories of this are fading away.

This was in a time where the priests were getting away with sexual molestation and no one would dare to point out that some students were getting molested. I still don't know what the purpose of these anti masturbation classes was. I am glad I got out of that school the moment I had a chance to get out.

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