you look neat, wish you lived in Illinois....

HA! I have ALWAYS referred to the godbots as "The Borg"

The all powerful god cannot intervene as it would screw up his perfect plan. This is why prayer doesn't work.

I don't know, I have no proof, but I know I loved my mother when she was here. It's all about Mom's.....we are their lives. Most men don't want kids, they have kids to keep the woman happy. If you don' t give a woman a kid, they will dump you and find someone that will. Woman have to have their little babies. It's their destiny, part of feeling whole. And kids give us purpose. It's pretty amazing when you look at teh sky at night. It's all pretty magical. We are here to learn, we are here for a reason, not sure what the reason is at times.....but I do know life is more fun when you have a load of money and gorgeous woman hanging on your left arm.

I agree, completely......look at what he did to his son!!!

sounds like a real politician

@Xena unfortuntely they do exist.

Yeah, actually. It was really hard.

I fully agree and that it also applies to devotees of political ideologies and dependent partners in marriages who internally 'know' about betrayals but out of insecurity and fear, pretend externally to be ignorant. Seems to be another of our human weaknesses. Truth and the resulting change and growth carry some pretty hefty and often humiliating price tags.

I believed in Jesus and all that bullshit until God took my dad from me when I was 8 years old. I prayed to Jesus to "bring Dad back" like he did Lazereth. Needless to say, the great and wonderful, powerful all knowing JESUS DIDN'T DO IT!!!...so that was the end of that. I figured they were lying to me at church, which they were. Organized religions are about '' control " and getting your money.

@FlyingEagle1952 By come back to life rules Lazereth is like 10-11 times more powerful than Jesus.

@DragonDust I'm not sure what you are trying to say to me, but all in all.....life is getting strange, and we are all getting closer to the end every day as time goes on. it's important to control the mind, keep hate, anger, and depression to a minimum.....and enjoy life. I keep busy but most of the. time I am lonely and sad. Politicians are full of it, religious leaders are full of it, corporations are full of it.....you can't trust anyone........my mother used to say," at the end of your life, if you can count the number of friends you have on one hand.....YOU ARE LUCKY!!!

@FlyingEagle1952 It's kind of a Point Of View thing. If coming back from the dead makes you all powerful then lazerus should be more powerful than Jesus. If it was only the numbers that count then we'd use Stalin as our stand in word for evil rather than Hitler. Some people are terrified of the idea of there being nothing after death while others take comfort in it. Struggle and understanding infinity. Australian Aboriginals have a historically beneficial relationship with fire (hunting, agriculture, earliest bakers lots of stuff) and had many words for it. Fire is powerful but only lasts for a moment as does the usefulness of knowledge. so the lake of fire was like a lake of knowledge rather than something daunting. Aboriginal translation of the bible didn't beat down like others did. Some stuff is serious and some is not so serious. Shower thoughts if you will. What will you care about at your deathbed? Friends, family, how you spent your time? What was the last thing you ate? That's something only you'll find out though we all will eventually for ourselves. I kind of went off there. Anyway is POV. Positive, negative, somewhere in between?

@DragonDust Once again, I don' t know what your point is. call it The Universe, call it The Void.....whatever. It's bigger than me, ha ha! Stay away from the evil doers!!!

@FlyingEagle1952 Haha. I can agree on that.

I try to control my anger. I'm not gonna be here much longer, I'm pretty much ready to go. This place is boring and our president is a complete idiot.

@FlyingEagle1952 what does that have to do with my comment and what does the president have to do with this group?

@Ktruin I was just making the point that I don't feel sorry about anything either. BUT.....this place is getting to be a drag. Not that impressed with this dimension anymore, as I said I'm pretty much ready to go. As far as the president goes, it is people like him and all the greed that is making it harder and harder to make sense out of the world today. The Agnostics on this site are basically still trying to figure it out of why we are here and what we are suppose to do. We have to try to leave something for our grand kids and hope that their dreams come true, they get good jobs.....and have success in their lives. I don't need to go to some church and listen some asshole tell me what is gonna happen to me when I die. Been there, done it. There's plenty of people who died and came back, just get on YOUTUBE and listen to the testimonies. My experience was 1994.

I think our lives are temporary and our only afterlife is a temporary (if you're lucky) hit of dopamine after death where you'll imagine something created entirely by your mind(death is a process just like life). If you push on an area of the brain you can provoke religious visions. A boy was born with pectoral muscles (and guess what adopted what's the chances you'd adopt a super-baby by chance?) but he's actually the sweetest thing and helps child-care workers during nap-time because he has so much energy but because he's literally as strong as kids twice his age some parents are scared of his natural advantages (He'd be 7ish now?). There is a family born that only feels pain momentarily (which actually leads to a lot of unnoticed injuries) and another with no fingerprints. I remember when I has a child my siblings and I looked very similar but we all look so different as adults. We're all unique and we have our own time on this planet and in the future different planets. I think no life is wasted, just not lived quite how the individual wanted.

@DragonDust I agree with you. It all fits in with what happened to me. I lost 14 years of my life "validating" my experience. My so called "career" went to hell.....but I lived. Still ended up being a software engineer at Motorola.....and always did music gigs. We are spiritual beings having a human experience. And you are right, out time is short. For myself, I do believe it is important to be a nice person.....it's all about L O V E!!! And it's about MOMs.......Moms rule.....

@DragonDust I basically agree with you, BUT.....I was just like you in 1994, well....after my experience, I asked 'them' to do something to prove to me they were real. Well, they did it. So it had nothing to do with chemical reactions.....dopamine....or whatever.......hallucination??? Well, I have some news for you.......This whole place is a hallucination.......HOWEVER, our souls, our beings, our consciousness.....well, it is something else.........My experience scared the piss out of me.....but there are a lot of testimonies on YOUTUBE......watch Dr. Alexander on YOUTUBE......WOW....his NDE really changed him. He is a Neuro-surgeon too, not dumb. You have to keep an open mind and be a little prepared for the next world, otherwise it all happens when you die!! Which is what my mother went thru, she thought there was nothing after you die. Well, you are in for a big surprise. It has nothing to do with the idiotic god they talk about in the Bible........most organized religion are a joke, just after your money and wanting to control you. I blend better with the atheist and agnostic than Christians (by the way, I met many atheists who met theirs Angels, I went to IANDS meetings for 10 years......met Dannion Brinkley there and Dr Raymond Moody)

@FlyingEagle1952 It is true that the reason we don't see a 'shaky camera' when we're looking around is because we're slightly behind in time imagining everything we see and putting it together. Our empathy can make us feel the effect of something that happened to someone else or phantom pains for legs that were cut off. So we do kind of live in our own simulation. When both your eyes are open you 'kind-of' look through your nose. What I imagine approximates to similar things that some only experience when under psychotropic drugs. But maybe that's adaption of epilepsy I don't know. Schizophrenics or people with Dissociative disorders (I know these are two very different things) can believe they are part something they aren't or think they are talking to god or an anime character or something but unlike us there isn't something there to differentiate the hallucination and the reality as both seem legitimately real in a not weird way. Our brain simulating what isn't actually there. We decide to do something well before the action and that can be shown in the brain. If neurons make sounds they sound a little like Morse code but a seizure sounds a little like a scream. Birds have hollow bones that help them fly. Lots of information out there and a lot of it will be unproven while a lot won't get peer reviewed but taken way out of control (e.g. - fat makes you fat won instead of sugar is what is related to all this weight gain and heart attacks, that falsified tiny study on the mmr vaccine still held up despite the surgeon losing his license for it and it getting pulled and the thousands of contrary studies).100 years ago we weren't washing our hands. 500 years ago we wared over spices not oil. All that information can be overwhelming though so find whatever interests you. If you find out your wrong, don't feel bad just learn more and think of it as expanding your mind by breaking through assumption.
I'm all over the place. To me everyone has whatever purpose they give themselves still I think of a quote from a youtuber...
Whoever you are and whater label/s you hold; know that it is only meant to describe you. Not define you. - I feel the same way with 'purpose'.

I enjoy watching two dudes beat the absolute crap out of each other, and after the fight, guy comes to the mic in a bloody pulp, and thanks god for being able to help him win the fight.

And the fact that many believers credit bad things happening to good people as a test of their own faith. How arrogant can a person get?

malibu64...Huh?

As I've said for a few years now, "nothing fails like prayer"......