"Keep your friends close and your enemies closer"
Have you ever been successful at this?
no, i'm too old. it wasn't invented yet.
I think that it was mentioned in Sun Tzu's the Art of Warfare which is about 2500 years old.
@FrayedBear, frenemy?! i read that term for the first time on fb coupla days ago, so assumed it's one of these newfangled gen xyz things.
@walklightly Not the word but the principle. Sun Tzu didn't speak English!
@FrayedBear, ok, in principle i could never stand the air of tension that accumulates between people who dislike, loathe, detest, disdain, abhor, disgust, execrate, hate, disrespect, misunderstand, abominate, despise, disrelish each other. love & peace shall surround me!
@walklightly That is how you miss forewarning.
@walklightly By not being close enough to hear "pull the trigger and shoot the bitch" you don't get time to duck or run out of range!
@FrayedBear, other than online i am not close enough to be perceived as a bitch. so shoot me through the ether!
@walklightly LOL. it wasnt meant personally walklightly ... ? hmmmm unless .... should I be keeping you close? ?
@FrayedBear, whoahoahoah! are you sure you want to ask that question?
@walklightly Always!
Have one now. Fortunately, I will likely never see him again. He's a trumpanzee and went off on me the last time we talked on the phone, called me all kinds of mean things. I'd loaned him a fairly large sum of money a few years back, and to his credit he's paid most of it back, but I am afraid I'm going to have to cut him loose, even though I'm probably one of his only friends. Don't care about the $$$, whether or not I'll ever get the rest of it; I'm just not inclined to put up with any more verbal abuse from the guy.
Hence the reason you were one of his only friends...Some people burn bridges with their anger, but can't or won't do enough self reflection to see they are the problem
All women are a frenemy. Act like you care then fuck a man over and not feel guilty. You all should be ashamed of yourselves!!
Excuse me, not all women are like that and I do not like being put in that category! Shame on you.
And my ex husband cheated on me, the second one left me thousands in debt. I do not blame all men. Perhaps you should consider that YOU choose women with a proclivity for screwing people over.
Nada, I will not be disrespectful but there will be no cosying up to people I do not like.
Have you ever met someone you didn't care for at first but then later found you did?
@JackPedigo That may have happened but since I don't recall anyone impacting me that way I guess it is no. MY big 'problem', I take most people at what they present and I have been fooled my some who appear to like me and then kick ya to the curb. I find I am less trusting of other women - we are a devious lot. lol
@silverotter11 I noticed you said "we"?
@JackPedigo we, as in the female of the species - I think women can be much more devious than most men. We just have not been in as many positions of power as men. Look at the woman who trump put in - the one who was involved with torture.
I have an aquaintemy. He's a friend of my roommate's, who is an unironic gay neo Nazi, and I'd like to send him on an emergency trip to the dentist's. That being said though, my roommate has been on and on about how few friends he has in this town, so I tolerate this guy hanging out at my place for his sake. I can't wait until my mortgage is up and I no longer need roommates to pay on this place.
I just severed ties with one. It might have been more like an acquaintance than a friend, we didn't have much in common other than bicycle riding. For the last year(?), he would bring out the liberal/conservative difference. He'd say, "Got a picture of your girlfriend (Hillary Clinton) over your bed?", or "Liberals are angry. They're just angry they lost the election", or "I hate liberals!" You can see how I just couldn't take any more. His "teasing" was more tormenting, than friendly banter.
He just sounds like a total idiot - you're definitely better off without him in your life!
I can't take all this political shit just under the surface. By brother, who I get along with, and see eye to eye politically can't even give it a rest. It is not only, his lense through which he not only sees the world, but also frames his conversation and becomes his personality.
I don't have the Frenergy.
Clever lol
I did have a coworker frenemy. I was friendly with him only because he was close with and trusted by the boss, and those two would gossip like schoolgirls. If he said one bad thing about me it would have turned into a problem. Luckily, he's since left the company and I no longer have to deal with his multiple personalities and holier-than-thou BS.
Nope. I do have friends that I like to be faux enemies with. We call each other names and say really harsh shit to each other but help each other happily as well.
I have one friend in particular like that, esp during card games. we'd call each other evil names like you wouldn't believe. We have toned it down a bit, but we still call each other names when we meet
Iโm agnostic about the existance of enemies.
Good answer.
I certainly have. People are just jealous by nature. It was frenemies that started nonsense between me and my ex wife and some of them do their best to get me to hate her to this day. People just cannot leave people alone. I absolutely do not like drama. I hate drama. Yet, I deal with and talk about drama every day. Why is there drama? People are jealous and they just cannot leave people alone.
Drama. I hate it. One of the biggest reasons for the demise of my last relationship; she couldn't live without it, and I absolutely refused to get dragged in.
No. Can't say I have. But I don't try either. I'm nice to pretty much everyone even if I probably shouldn't be.
No,
Life is too short to put up with that crap.
I used to some years back. He was actually my best friend for many years and the person I thought was the most similar to myself when we joined highschool. But as smart people, we are driven and it became so easy to drive each other apart. Finally one day he cut the friendship.
It's been quite a few years since and we occasionally see each other, but don't do anything more than talk about the weather until we split into two different conversations with other people. A true frenemy is too much effort and it's easier just to interact with other people.
By letting the frenemy in, all you're doing is adding chaos into your life. There are so many more positive ways than to do that. Maybe one day we will be friends again, but we will likely be very different people then
As an adult I don't have any enemies. If I am at a party with a group of people I have some who are friendlier than others. Or on holidays in summer my GF has a huge party which includes an old friend that I dated 9 years ago for 3 months. He has a live in GF now and she freaked out on the 4th of July to keep us away from each other worried his GF would get upset. I don't get into drama so I stayed away from them.
It's really not all the uncommon in the music business. In some bands, egos tend to collide. I once played in a band with a guy, Tom (not his real name,) who was (is) one of the best, most talented guitarists and singers in the area. His problem was that he knew it and expected everyone else to know it too.
Tom came into the band when it was three piece -- myself, the bass player, and the drummer. I was lead guitarist for the band as well as lead singer for most of the material we did. One night, driving home after a gig, I dozed at the wheel about 10 miles from home, doing about 75mph, and went off the road. I clipped what was essentially a concete wall. It was just dumb luck that I didn't hit that wall head-on. Had I done that, I would certainly have been killed. As it was, I was fortunate that the crash resulted in only a single injury -- a broken left hand. The force of the impact had traveled up the steering column and ... snap!!
I continued performing with the band as lead singer while my hand healed, but could not play guitar with my hand in a cast. That's when the band brought Tom in to serve as lead guitarist for about three months, after which I was ready to begin playing again. Then he stayed on a while longer as I worked to get my hand back in shape and regain my previous level of play.
Once I had my skills back, we found ourselves in the enviable position of having two lead guitarists who were also singers, something that nobody else in the area had. So we made it a permanent arrangement, started doing material that few other bands had the instrumentation or vocals to do well, and the band started playing bigger and bigger gigs.
But there was a problem. Tom had the attitude that he was some sort of superstar and was extremely difficult to work with. He would show up at a gig, or a rehearsal for that matter, and twiddle with his guitar, or mingle with the crowd, or fuss with his hair, or just sit somewhere while everyone else in the band was busting ass hauling gear, setting up, tearing down. loading and unloading, doing the sound check, etc. Tom had joined the band as a substitute, but by this time acted as if we all worked for him.
Even worse than that, he was (is) one of these people who are obviously and obnoxiously Christian. God this, Jesus that, The Lord the other thing. Mingling around waiting for the gig to start, on break, at a restaurant after the gig, during idle time at rehearsal, or any time there was dead air (except on stage) it would almost never fail that he would say something related to his faith. Myself being an atheist, it completely rubbed me the wrong way and Tom and I knocked heads a few times.
Enemies? Yeah, pretty much. Friends? Well, we had a working relationship and had to act like we were friends when the band was out in public. Does that count?
After another few months, I would receive an unsolicited job offer in California that I could not turn down, and that was the end of my time with that band, which was probably the most successful band I've been directly involved with. Now I've returned to the area and am involved in a new band. No, Tom is not in it! I absolutely, positively, refuse to ever work with Tom again.
I've heard that a month or two after I left for California, Tom and the bass player got into a fist fight following a gig near Eau Claire, WI. I'm pretty sure I know where it was since we played at a place near Eau Claire several times. I'm also pretty sure I know what started the fight. I'm told the bass player threw the first punch. I wish I could have witnessed that!!
I won't even go and see Tom's latest band. One, I won't pay money to see him perform. Two, I don't want to chance getting into a fist fight!! lol
I'm currently looking for one.
Maybe two.
Please send references.
My brother who is just below me has been one. I didn't understand this until I was discussing our childhood with brother number 2. He said he would sit there and watch the two of vying for top dog (I was amazed at his astuteness). We have now had totally different lifestyles and when the 3 of got together last May I noticed the situation was still there. I finally had to say that even though we had differences he was still my brother and I still loved him. He was quiet after that.
Iโve come across women that have had different ethics to me . I remove myself from all people who donโt deserve my energy .