I’ve always been a huge fan of the Atheist Experience and Matt Dillahunty but after the Woodford incident, it seems that there may good reason to remove Matt from my list of intellectual role models. What is everyone’s take on this? I have watched some videos that represent both sides of the argument, however it’s hard to tell who to trust. My intuition seems to indicate that Matt is on the side of moral opposition, however as someone who has been a member of the ACA Facebook page for years, I know how toxic the environment can be there so it leads me to believe there is more going on behind the scenes than everyone may possibly know about.
Welcome to the asylum. Enjoy your stay.
I have to be honest with you.
I don't give a flying rat's ass about Matt Dillahunty or what goes on in Austin.
It's up to those members to deal with whatever situation they have.
Being an atheist doesn't automatically mean I share the concerns of other
atheists, or have any interest in atheist organizations.
The truth is I generally don't like most people, and I'm not much of a "joiner".
This site is probably the closest I've come to being a member of anything
resembling an "organization".
Sanders can't make this much simpler; All these facts are checkable; please; try to prove me wrong....
of the 36 most advanced nations, only one is declining in life expectancy.
...and it's that same one....the USA ...that also has more than double the cost of health care per person.
...and it's that same nation that treats "bankruptcy" to cover medical bills like it's normal; with numbers of bankruptcies in the hundreds of thousands compared to zero for the other 35 nations.
Tax those making more than $250k per year more. Create a sliding scale that taxes the wealthy a little more....the lower and middle class less....so we can finally say we've MAGA...
The only thing ACA people agee on is that there is/are no god/s. Everything else should be open to debate.
Their treatment of Stephen Woodford was surreal, especially when they have a history of misogyny themselves. Woodford was protesting trans-women from competing in sport. (yes he originally worded it rudely and insensitively but this has been rectified). The ACA have no place being the moral police except when it comes to religion. I think it immoral to eat meat, but I'm not suggesting ACA should expel atheist carnivores.
I found it amusing that considering this forum is about atheism/ agnosticism, most Americans didn't recognise the poster's topic.
The ACA finally gave healthcare to millions who had none. It started out with good intentions but was altered and watered down by Republican party at the behest of health insurance companies who paid them off. The republicans are rabid about wiping it out because of hatred for Obama and everything he did
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Essential health benefits are required.
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Coverage of pre-existing medical conditions.
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No annual limits on coverage.
Health insurance companies must spend 80% of total premium dollars on healthcare services.
Congress must shop on the Health Insurance Exchanges.
I only knew ACA for Affordable Care Act which was murdered in broad day light by the Republicans...... and knowing this fully well Bernie is again fooling people by selling them cat's pee in a bottle and telling them it is holy water. The Republicans will win the Senate and House in midterms and neuter Bernie for the rest of his life and his voters.
I see Matt as a debater and show host.
I am utterly uninterested in the private gossip in the nuts and bolts of running such an enterprise. I am ignorant of the details and as such any opinion I had would be misinformed by default.
I do not know what "the Woodford incident" is.
I do know they had some personnel changes, I neither know, nor am interested in the gossip around that.
Do you see humans as B&W or nuanced?
In my view a person can be spot on in one area and full of crap on another, we all struggle against bias and ignorance and we all err.
So does this unknown issue somehow taint all his other efforts?
I am an atheist YouTuber and know many on the community. This is old news. Stepehn made a few mistakes in a video from ignorance. He was called out on it and addressed his mistakes publically. As far as Matts involvement I have heard no whispers about it. I think they are both great humans.
Recently the ACA had a big shakeup and several people are not there any longer. Jen and Traci among them and I liked both of them. I watch the Atheist Experience every Sunday. Some of this shakeup had to do with the LGBTQ people and where this show was going. I can accept that many of them do not believe also, so I do not understand this and I like and support Stephen Woodford. He did nothing wrong and it appears they threw him under a bus. It stirred up a big storm. Imagine the outcome here for a moment - the ACA supports LGBTQ people and community but now none of this is discussed in any light whatsoever.
As for Matt, my logic is very similar to his and I'm with him on most things, but he is currently the president and I'm sure he wants to stay there and also protect himself as well. Matt has his divorce and a lawsuit with Silverman going, and info on that can be looked up and should not be discussed on the show. I agree with Matt about 98% of the time on most issues.
I was also into the ACA Facebook page and then they threw me under the bus also. I'm on a desktop computer and nothing handheld where you can get instant messages. I made a remark that someone's logic on a certain subject was "sort of lame" and that did it. Suddenly I am making fun of people who cannot walk or have difficulty walking, etc. This is not what was said or what I meant. "Lame thinking" has nothing to do with crippled people or a 1611 translation KJV bible. I do not know any "lame" people. Horses go lame but in modern times not people. Anyone could see that I am not making fun of crippled people but the board of the ACA had spoken and I was banned from that Facebook page for not correcting my statement in time.
My best thought here is that it makes you wonder who is on the ACA Board of Directors and what have they been smoking?
I have a few friends that this is the only way that they have insurance at all. One's son will die without it and they won't be able to be covered because it will be a pre-existing condition. Those that only see their own impact and not consider others...not my type of people. We need to get rid of the making a profit from healthcare. More industrial nations have healthcare than we do....because we let corporations make our government decisions.
My take: Matt is still an excellent resource when one is searching for truth on the subject of atheism.
If you saw him debate some of the other great thinkers in the "Intellectual Dark Web," then you ought to be able to answer your own question.
Furthermore, the ACA ought to be precisely what it is - yet another excellent resource for knowledge. Nothing more, nothing less.
People love politics, and even more they love stories and gossip. It's unrelated. Fuck that noise. I steer clear.
I used to love The Atheist Experience back when Russell, Jeff Dee, Tracie, Martin and Jen were in rotation as hosts. With just Matt it has gotten so there is no conversation anymore. He'll start yelling as soon as someone makes an invalid argument and end up hanging up on them. I still listen hoping they'll get an interesting call like they used to have, but in my opinion it's just not as good as it once was.
With atheism by core definition being illogical and atheist attempts to add or change the defination to make it appear more logical just so they can hold onto their title "atheist", it would seem to me that no atheist could be truely held as an intellectual role model by any person with any integrity.
I listen to many of the ACAs podcasts. Ive been a a fan of the Atheist Experience for years. I feel the same frustration with some callers as Mat does. I think many of them are just trolls. "If religions people could reason, there would be no religious people"(House). However, some of the acrobatic reasoning people use is truly mind bending.