Jesus was a Capricorn.

There is no definitive evidence that Jesus Christ was ever a real person.
There is absolutely no mention of him in any records of the time that he
was supposedly alive.
The Roman occupiers in the region were meticulous record-keepers.
Yet, there is not one single mention of anyone by that name, or the names
of either of his "parents".

The writings of Titus Flavius Josephus have been deemed notoriously unreliable.
The majority of the earliest christian "history" is attributed to him.
So, basically, he was a writer of fiction which the believers adopted as historical fact.
There is absolutely nothing that backs up any of his writings in relation to the existence of Christ.

The stubborn insistence that Christ was a real person is nothing more than myth.
No different than Paul Bunyan and his blue ox, Babe.

It could be a combination of the two. Jesus could have been a myth based on a real person (but exaggerated quite a bit) who became "historical" to those who exercise blind faith in him.

At age 13, I became an atheist when I realized the Bible is just a book of stories or fables written by men. Like Grimm's Fairy Tales.

Jesus rose from the dead, a woman turned into salt, parting of the Red Sea, Noah's Ark: ridiculous fables or myths.

I honestly think that there was no historical Jesus that went through all the trials the xtians claim. There is no independent corroboration of the any of the events by others from a time where those in power (at least) knew how to write. No dead people came out of their graves during crucifixion to walk around a town as the bible claims, because I think that alone would have been noticed by the town's folks and someone would have written about it somewhere. I don't know that anyone needs to know the situational context as to why there are now zombies walking down the street, they would have just reported it. Same goes for parting of the read seas, healing miracles performed, vandalized temples, and so on. There are no independent accounts from outside witnesses to the events spoken of in the bible any more than there are outside witnesses to the events claimed to have happened in Harry Potter. Fiction. The bible is a work of fiction, and a harmful fiction at that.

Now when independent, fool proof, corroboration is found and presented, I will reconsider my stance on the xtian myth according to the evidence presented.

He wasn't the son of a teenage Jewish virgin and a being that created 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars, so there is no reason wasting time worrying about him and all the nonsense associated with him.

Don’t really know. Don’t really care.

There is no archeological evidence this person ever existed as a historical figure. The same goes for David, Moses, etc.

Revisionist history.

The more I learn, the more I lean toward myth...

When you consider that there are no historical records to indicate that a Jesus ever existed during the time that he was supposed to be alive and that he only shows up in biblical texts centuries after his death and supposed resurrection, it seems unlikely that he ever existed. The Romans were methodical about their record keeping, even in their vassal provinces, it's all about the taxation.
Could there have been several 'prophets' preaching in much the same way that tent preachers have always done and perhaps these were amalgamated to constitute one messiah? Maybe or maybe not?

There were many messiah figures during this time. There is no reason to doubt that one of them was probably named Yeshua (Jesus) who had a small, but faithful, following. And, he was likely crucified just as others were. But, almost everything about his life was mythicized: virgin birth, miracles, place of birth. drawer of large crowds etc...

This man, whoever he was, was fully human and a Jew. When Paul took this message of Jesus to the Gentiles, because the Jews were not very responsive, this man had to be palatable to non-Jews; thus circumcision was no longer required, strict dietary laws were no longer necessary, keeping the Sabbath was done away with etc. And, the prevailing myths of these people became part of the Jesus story. *Christians are actually Paulists and they don't even know it.

Over the course of a couple of hundred years, this Jesus went from being a man, albeit some sort of special one, to being THE God of the universe. This transition can be clearly seen in the bible, but it is simply ignored. They cannot see the forest because the trees are in the way.

I cannot believe that this person was completely fabricated because there are too many contradictions about him: his life, his message, even his name. Supposed prophecies would have been clearly fulfilled and would not be the contradictory mess that they are. According to the OT he was supposed to be named Immanuel, not Yeshua; and, in order to have him born in Bethlehem, some wild story about a non-existent census had to be fabricated. This makes it seem that this real person was born but not in Bethlehem, so the story had to accommodate that-- and other problems with fulfilling prophesy. Also, the stories about him show a progression of changing beliefs about him. This would not be true if an organized story had been created from the start.

In the time of Jesus, it ws common for there to be "preachers" who woudl go around speakign to people aobut god, and also it was common for some of them to claim to be a messiah. The two "theives" that died next to Jesus on the cross were more likley two other self proclaimed messiahs, as the word translated as "thieves" better translates as "criminal against the state", and it was common practice to put the self proclaimed messiahs to death once they cross the line and contradict state authority. From that context the trial described in the bible makes a lot more sense.

Jesus probably was a real person, who was exceptionally charismatic. However between his death and the time the stories of his live were written, his life was mythologized with familiar themes and stories, that sprang out of stories about astrology, and old gods.

Here is s video that covers the mythologies behind the Jesus story.

Even if he was real, and all the stories true. Not some one I would even look up to let alone worship. No matter how good of a person I am, just by not taking him as my lord and savior, I burn for eternity. That's the will of a psychopath.

I haven't a clue. He might have existed, might not. If he did, he might have been a madman, high on drugs. He could have been a preacher that was more popular than the thousands of others that existed at the time. All we come is theories about what he might have been.

Wasn't anything but a fictional character from a book.

Why not both. Or all three, because you can also throw in, that there may have been several persons involved and some deliberate falsification. Its just a mess, and anyone who thinks that they can unpick the threads after all this time, and the many attempts deliberately made to hide the truth over the years, is just deluding themselves.

Not mentioned yet are the dozen or so characters running around the Middle East a couple thousand years ago with tellingly similar attributes. Jesus wasn’t unique, just one of many. AronRa has a good video about em. I think I heard Richard Carrier talk about them also. Check out the story of Mithras, written down first like 1.5 thousand years before Christ I believe. I understand none of that is evidence but I still feel it makes it more unlikely there Was a real Jesus as depicted by xtians.

I don’t know. I see credible scholars arguing both sides and everything in between. I, personally, don’t think it matters much. Somebody who did live wrote those stories, and all the allegorical/mythological wisdom they may contain exists independent of the historicity of the main character in the stories.

Food for thought here. The bible as we know it today came into being some 300 years after the time of Jesus. Paul is credited with writing almost two thirds of the NT and claims he met this Jesus but it is not true. Jesus was an apparition in the sky only but did speak. How would this said Jesus have had an audience with Pilate and in what language did they speak? Prophesy in the bible appears to have been contrived and made up, or in some cases the events mentioned are after 70 AD. The man, Jesus, could have been a Roman invention and Paul was part of this. There is no way to actually check it out.

Why did Jesus have a tomb when most crucified people were put into a mass grave? The bible says a guard was placed at the tomb. I suppose they were afraid that he would actually rise from the dead. In Israel they value tourism and will gladly show you the tomb of Jesus. None of this is what the bible thumpers of today think it is. Why would anyone ever think that Jesus would like crosses and have you wear one as a religious symbol? If there was a Jesus he was a Jew. Not at all what his cult following has come to believe today.

Myth.

Who knows. No evidence of any of those things. No evidence that Jesus existed at all. Evidence is not rumour, conjecture, someone said this, someone said that. So..... Jesus is the same as God. No evidence.

If this was such a amazing miracle, why didn't they preserve the cross, or the ark, or the manger, or know where the cave is, or the body? They seem to have lost everything.

Was the Cookie Monster a hand controlling a puppet, or a puppet being controlled by a hand?

It all comes down to the same thing. Who he is and all he represents depends on whose hand is controlling the story.

I'll answer that question with a series of questions. If you had to write a story about Paul Revere without a library, the internet, a history book, or the ability to read, how would you go about it? Remember that was three hundred years ago. How did the "prophets" get their information? By word of mouth?

Imho? Both and neither.He was a man, that committed unknown crimes, that the romans decided to make an example of by executing in an horrific way... Either to make the seriousness of the crime known, (which has been forgotten), or to prevent others from standing up to their authority. "They are a good person, that did many good things", is still the plea from friends and relatives of people caught committing crimes... and the game of chinese whispers began, until people started writing them down. Jesus acknowledged his crimes, (by getting John the baptist to baptise him, so he was clean in the eyes of god, and saying, "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" ) but they appear tohave been pathological, as he sought to control himself, (facing his demons in the desert), but when he failed, he told Judas to betray him... So, man myth? Both, yet neither.