R/atheism post with question for non-believers
Because I don't understand why you do believe in god when there is no verifiable supporting evidence one exists.
I haven't been asked yet, but I'd probably be tactful at first, and say something like the following:
For probably the same or a similar reason you do believe in god; you want to believe in something that makes sense to you. We just came to different conclusions about what makes sense.
I don't believe I need to address the problems with their logic unless they take the conversation in that direction.
I answer, what is God? Turn the tables and make them explain. And then challenge the various explanations that come up. I'm noncommittal about my own lack of belief.Put them on the defensive instead.
welcome to Unknown God ladies
and if you think athesits don't have beliefs, you're kidding yourself wadr
so a nicer way to put that might be "whatever force caused the big bang" or some other phenomena we can't explain
I have quite a number of replies/responses in my little 'arsenal' that includes some like,
When was the Election held to put your God into power?
How many Gods are there and which one IS the REAL God?
How can anyone expect a sane person to believe in something that they can never see, touch nor hear?
Why don't you believe in Fairies, Elves, Dragons, Pink Unicorns, Flying Elephants and all those other things as well?
“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer gods than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.” – Stephen F Roberts
"Because nobody has ever produced any falsifiable evidence to support the existence claim of any god.". Too easy.
Simple. "There's no evidence of any gods." And then I ask them why they do believe, just in case they're looking for encouragement to switch sides.
Which one? Your one, the islamic one, the hindu ones, the ancient roman ones. the celtic ones, the janism ones, the australian aboriginal ones from the dreamtime? Which god there are so many to choose from?
Believe in who?
My reply would be "Why do you?"
I usually tell them that I studied the bible too much. How it came into being as we know it today under Constantine in the third century. This is a long time after Jesus and many books were not included while others destined to be a part of the big book. How could anything like that be accurate in any way?
This is usually where believers start in with me "but the bible says." They don't get it at all.
Yes, and when they come up with the "Bible says so because it IS the written word of God" I often respond with,
So where did actually sign the book," or,
Who holds the Rights to the book and under which Copyright Laws,"
Bible is derived from the Greek word 'biblos' which means a book, scroll, parchment, etc, and NOT a collection/compendium of books," or,
If this bible IS Truth and Fact then should not ALL other books be held to be exactly the same?
I neither believe nor disbelieve. I'm an agnostic; I don't know.
@bbyrd009 Saying I or anybody else 'believes' (rather than 'thinks' anything is by definition a 'belief system;' that is, he or she believes IN the non-existence of 'god,' whatever they believe IT to be.
They set up the straw dogs of unicorns or purple dragons in your garage but that only has to do with a 'divine entity,' which we all know is ridiculous.
So from inductive reasoning they assert with certainty NO ''god' exists by any definition, and given the preponderance of the circumstantial evidence to the contrary, they have no right by the rules of logic to make such an assertion.
Not only is it illogical, it's depressing.
And if they don't know what that evidence is, they are willfully ignorant, and there's no excuse for that.
I'd rather be hopeful and well-informed.
And THAT'S what separates atheists from Agnostics.
As Matt Dellahunty would say, I apportion my belief according to the evidence.
Because I think.
It’s a long story..
DIng Ding DIng, WINNA!