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Pet ownership. Do you ever think about how arrogant it is of us to breed and enslave another species for our own personal enjoyment? We keep them locked up, behind fences, on leashes. We dictate what they eat, where they go, with whom they interact. We strip them from their mothers and siblings as infants to be raised as our own companion and servant. I make this observation as someone who has a dog (dachshund) and whose partner has two cats.

By Jlangston70
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Not me. I'm a dedicated servant to my two cats. They live a pampered life.

Deb57 Level 6 Apr 14, 2018

My 2 cats rule the roost here!

Yep, guess that's what I am for my 3 dogs... dedicated servant!


If it wasn't for humans and us breeding them they would have never existed in the first place. I don't think there is anything wrong with having cats or dogs. Pet birds on the other hand is a different story. People love their beauty and how graceful they are so they buy one take it home and throw it in a cage and clip their wings so they can't fly.

mebeb32 Level 3 Apr 13, 2018

I personally love birds. I would love to own a parrot. Birds are not domesticated animals. Birds also require constant companionship and interaction. Very few people would be able to satisfy those requirements. Most responsible bird owners will agree they are not the ideal pet for the majority of pet Seekers

My Sweetie doesn't have clipped wings and she's never caged. She picked me, not the other way around. She's not what I'd call a pet, she's more like a small person with feathers, who I love very much.

@JimGreenamyer I didn't mean to make it sound like I thought everyone that owns a bird treats them that way but I do think a lot of people that buy birds do clip their wings and put them in a cage for most of the time.


In fact, the opposite is true. Humans didn’t domesticate dogs and cats. They domesticated themselves—and us.



Benthoven Level 7 Apr 13, 2018

Yes. I doubt the morality of it.

But as long as there are animals in shelters, I will support the adoption of those into loving homes.

stinkeye_a Level 7 Apr 13, 2018

I certainly agree with you!


When I die, I want to come back as one of my pets. They live the life!

SheThatB Level 5 Apr 15, 2018

Mine too!

My thoughts exactly!


No. I have never had an unhappy pet

ollieberry Level 6 Apr 14, 2018

I think on this often. I am against breeding for pets. All of my animals are rescues.
We currently have a dog and cat, both over 10. Yard is secure for both, Kat has a secure outdoor area via a cat flap. To be honest, I think they have a better life in some ways than I do.

Rugglesby Level 8 Apr 13, 2018

If I get animals in the future they will be older rescues that nobody else wants. Maybe like hospice care for old sick dogs

@Jlangston70 That's what my son plans to do. He was in Amsterdam a few months back and went to the cat boat. I immediately was inundated with photos and his plans.

Mine have it made!


Do these two look like enslaved animals? Not sure where you have reached such a conclusion.

atsguy14 Level 3 Apr 13, 2018

I can see where you're coming from, but in an ideal circumstance, we complement each other. I love that they have distinct personalities or characters (just like people).

Philosopearl Level 5 Apr 13, 2018

Yeah... my cats totally got a rough life. If only I could trade places for a few days.

brandon-scott Level 4 Apr 13, 2018

They are obviously mentally and emotionally disturbed by their captivity. 😋

@Jlangston70 the 50 dollar a bag food, expensive litter, meat scraps, spinach, cooked eggs, canned food, bottled water... they live better and eat better than most people. If one of them ever did complain.... haha


My dog, a rescue, and I are in a beneficial partnership for both of us. I supply him with proper nutrition, good health and love. He in return gives me love, emotional support, a friendly face to come home to and the Best darn tootin' alarm system in the world.
I am not his 'master', I am his human.

buzz13 Level 7 Apr 13, 2018

Rescue parents are the best! Good on ya!

@Jlangston70 Have you ever considered that mills & the one off back yard breeder depends on this mentality when they dump dogs at shelters? Vs an ethical breeder who will screen a home first and won't just let anyone with cash in hand walk away with an animal?
Someone who backs their animals should anything happen to you that they never see the inside of a shelter?

@Qualia Good point. Do you think domestic pet breeers should be regulated and inspected?

@Qualia I don't understand what you are trying to convey, please explain

@buzz13 has the best answer on the page!


In our house we have cats. We dotn' enslave them, but they tned to try to enslave us.

snytiger6 Level 7 Apr 13, 2018

No. You're going full PETA with this argument.

jperlow Level 7 Apr 13, 2018

Nope. Like I said, I have pets. Just a topic for discussion. Not everything has to be a cutthroat argument.


NO. Fences and leashes are for our pets well being, safety, both for them and others.
I own two purpose bred dogs, one a rescue, probably my last rescue, and a well bred one from a breeder of the highest ethic. I searched long and hard for him. He had plenty of time with his mother, we didn't pick him up until he was 14 weeks old.
Funny story I'll never forget. For the first time in my life I witnessed a family reuinion with his dam & siblings at a year old during a breed national convention. They all remembered each other. After a cordial Hello from Mom she was done with my boy, snarled as if to say "I remember you you little shit GTF away from me"... LOL

Dachshunds are purpose bred dogs, meant to be vermin control and companions.

My breed is one of the few created specifically to be a personal dog and protector.

And btw, even wild animals sometimes have companion animals of other species. There's nothing weird about it. I don't know what I'd do without mine. I love doting on them. They sleep with us. When they're doing well I'm happy.
Now is that to say that everyone who has one should own a pet? No. There are no shortage of people who shouldn't have so much as a pet rock. Furthermore I feel sorry for kids who aren't allowed to have pets and aren't taught good animal husbandry. There always seems to be something off about them. Case in point my MIL. She shouldn't be around anything living, period.

Qualia Level 7 Apr 13, 2018

My pomeranian wouldn't survive if I didn't tell him what to do. Anyone who owns cats knows they own you. I don't think of it as arrogance. It's a partnership

LadyAlyxandrea Level 7 Apr 13, 2018

I evidently hoard/adopt cats ( 6 ). I also have 2 dogs (Husky and a hound.) They're family. My cats weren't stripped from anything, They were rescued from a crappy life in a cage at a no kill shelter. Now they all have a reliable food source, a safe house to call their own, acres to raom and rubs, pats, cuddles, toys, treats, etc., whenever they want. The hound dog was also a rescue. His future before I adopted him was a death sentence. He now has regular food, gets petted and played with every day, sleeps on a big ole bed, or anywhere else he wants. He's friends with all the cats... ok, there is that 'one," goes to Day Care once a week and plays with a dozen other dogs all day long. Has a kick @$$ Siberian Husky for a "sister" who plays with him all day long. Enslaved.... no way. At least, not them. I'm more of a slave to their whims at times. I love all my critters. They are my family.

Suffolkian Level 4 Apr 13, 2018

Believe me my dog is not my severant I am hers. She barks I have to move. I think she realized how to turn the tables. My cats as well. I got them way after they were babies maybe that is the reason why I serve them

Rhonda873 Level 5 Apr 13, 2018

Now that's funny! Human slave!


NOT my dogs! I only have rescues that have already been rejected and abandoned by others and live wonderful lives with me. Rarely on a leash, never behind a fence, eat a varied mix of fruits, veggies and meats, sleep where they want, have the run of the house at all times, go almost everywhere I go and get more medical care than I do. They run in the woods, ride in the car, swim in the rivers and pool and interact with people daily. Not a bad life.

mtnhome Level 5 Apr 20, 2018

Interesting comment that I will think more on. But humans are animals too and I love that just as animals bring joy to us, we can bring joy to them. I watched a youtube clip about dog personalities. They were trained to sit still in an MRI. When their owner walked up to them, the parts of the brain that release dopamine (the feel good hormone) lit up in the brain. This was evidence that they felt joy to see their owner.

MsDemeanour Level 4 Apr 15, 2018

Agreed. There's no doubt that my little guy is happy to see me when I get home. Also, when I'm traveling his behavior changes because he misses me.

When I come home I get celebration and love! Barking, tail wagging love.


My cat comes and goes as he pleases.
I just feed him and love him.

And I agree with @Benthoven.

AMGT Level 8 Apr 13, 2018

This is a neat topic. I hate to say both "yes" and "no," but I'm running with it for now. I can see how depriving an animal of its family could be unethical, particularly when it's sufficiently self-conscious to experience the pain of loss. But there are animals that have been selectively bred for years. I think those animals, such as your dachshund, would suffer more and perish faster in the wild. Maybe we are even morally obligated to adopt domestic breeds as pets, considering the role of direct human intervention in their evolutionary development. It's not a perfect arrangement for our furry friends, but at the moment, I can't think of an alternative.

ADistantShore Level 5 Apr 13, 2018

Thanks for your input. My dachshund definitely could not last in the wild. He has no idea where doggie treats grow in the wild!

I agree with you. I’m in the yes/no category. In addition, I’d love to see fewer domesticated animals in the world. I 💜 all animals and have had my share of pets in my life but it’s a practice I’d like to see phased out to a large extent. Especially birds, reptiles etc. that are not injured rescues.


All of my pets (2 cats, 1 dog), including 17 chickens, are rescues. At 1 pointed I had rescued 3 goats & 18 ducks (all rehomed). Its been interesting.


I don't know about arrogant, I have pets that are like my family. Humans have been living with dogs since the stone age, and I don't know what I'd do without mine. They are small dogs, Poms, so they would die without my care. I really think our relationship is more symbiosis than slavery.

JimGreenamyer Level 3 Apr 20, 2018

When I retired and moved here , my plan for myself included , "No more pets." A female cat moved onto my side porch and had a litter of 6 kittens , before I discovered her . Approximately 6 weeks later , she was murdered . I had seen that at least one of the kittens had been eating some of the food I set out for Momma cat , so set out more and water and the little ones survived . I did not breed these , I did not enslave them . In fact , I think it was the other way around .

Cast1es Level 6 Apr 13, 2018

Bravo to you for taking care of them! I'm sorry to hear about her tragic death. People can be right c***s sometimes.


If you mean that it would have been better for humans to have left wild animals alone and never try to domesticate them, I agree.

These domesticated breeds couldn't survive in the wild, and feral dogs tend to form packs and attack livestock. We literally breed animals to be our companions, and the original wolf ancestors made their own decisions to trade freedom for free food.

Here in Thailand they have wild Thai Dingos that live amoung people are semi-tame, and fed by Thai people, but have no masters and breed and fight at will. I have my favorites, and they are excellent hunters.

Once they start seeing me around they tend to start following me at a short distance, pretending they're with me, and even drive game (wild birds) toward me to kill. I only take photos of the birds, but appreciate their help in flushing them from deep cover. I respect the dogs and never try to touch them.

birdingnut Level 8 Apr 13, 2018
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