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ok, this is gonna stir in some problematic commentary and divide the opinions, but i'll say it. i saw "the phenomenon 2020" 2 days ago. the film is scary when it comes to understanding the high possibility that an alien maybe watching you closely when you are taking a shit in the toilet or kissing your girlfriend or even waiting for the bus at the station. however, the actual problem is that i don't think the mainstream science is telling the truth all the way. they are in a way lying about some historical events that have happened in the ancient past such as the flood but they deny it because it was mention in the so called "holy books", maybe these scientists do not want to shift the accepted theory from what people have learned to what it actually is.
i read the “holy books” from a historical point of view. and i know there are things that maybe “true” there, not because a god wrote the book, but because its a book that documented what happened and that people wrote such events tried to explain them using a celestial dimension that was the easiest for people to do back then. we must be smarter than just denying whats in these books: the koran and bible when they could and do actually contain some facts.

Randall Carlson is a master builder and architectural designer, teacher, geometrician, geomythologist, geological explorer and renegade scholar. he was hosted on Joe Rogan’s podcast #606 and there he stated that the floods have happened with evidence. which makes me as a thinker ask the question: why are the scientists denying it?

the reason i brought the aliens in the post is because there is a possibility that they have “created” us to serve a certain purpose according to Zecharia Sitchin in his book: The Lost Book of Enki. which is why they are coming more frequently in the recent few centuries to “check” on us and see how are we all doing or something.

I know this is not the strongest argument, but i think people on this website are openminded enough to understand the thought behind the post and provide a constructive opinion rather than just refusing it. thanks.

Basem 7 Feb 22
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@Basem there should be an award for superlative, thought provoking contributions such as yours.

  1. The possibility that the "aliens who created us for a purpose" watch us on the toilet.

  2. Mainstream science is not telling the truth, "they are ... lying about some historical events that have happened in the ancient past such as the flood".

  3. It's a conspiracy that science has cooked up to thwart, stymie and trammel the aliens and god in their righteous desire to receive the credit for our existence.

it is not a superlative contribution at all. why does it feel to me that you and many others got electrocuted when i made an alternative argument? i am a man of science my self and i try to know facts as much as anyone here on this platform but making such Exclusionary judgements such as yours and some other comments here makes it look like another intellectual bias when the claim is to freely think!
this is not fair and not good as well.
did you watch the documentaries about the aliens? did you watch any documentaries about aliens? can you be sure that there are no other life forms out there? or is it because scientists said that we could not see them means that you and all of us have to repeat blindly what they say?
yes, it is a provoking thought, and i stated that from the beginning and it does not have to appeal to you!

@Basem you are far, far too modest. Your post is superlative, peerless, nonpareil: it's rare that "a man of science" such as yourself asserts "there is a high possibility that an alien may be watching you closely" and "why are the scientists denying" the flood.

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Calmly, step away from the conspiracy crap, put down the joint, take a deep breath, engage your brain, check for traffic, and slowly release the clutch....

when was the last time you did that?

@Gwendolyn2018 put your brain in gear, then release the clutch to get it moving....

@Gwendolyn2018 🤪metaphors-are-us

@Gwendolyn2018 no kidding

@Basem Most intelligent people do that every single day, myself included even though I no longer drive a motor vehicle,. since as the old adage goes, " Only the Foolish seek to engage the mouth/fingers BEFORE ensuring that the brain is operating first."

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I don't know but it seems to me that in your head there is just so much flying around that it must give you an awful headaches, most of the time.

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Okay, I want you to replace the tinfoil hat & return to the basement, Now! Mom will bring you some cookies, milk, & Prozac soon

maybe you can breastfeed milk while it contains fluoxetine!

@Basem NOT your Mother! Although i can see you are easily confused about lots of things, such a remark pretty is very disrespectful to your Real Mother.

@AnneWimsey just so you know how it feels to make a remark about people in public! tada!

@Basem uuuummmm, what?

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When you read those books you should curb your imagination and fears, or just leave those books alone until you grow up a bit.
However, my advice is just don't read those books at all, because they're all full of shit and designed to make you afraid, and they seem to be working with you.

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The problem with books or documentaries is they set out to inform you and get you to think like the author wants you to think...to take their own theory's and make them a fact in their and your eyes...therefor selling more of the books or films,,,I do not believe that aliens have ever been here or ever will be...the problem with stories and conspiracies is that is all they are stories and conspiracies... you need 100% fact before it becomes real...

you are absolutely correct. thank you.

Well, I'd say both a Yes and No to some of your comments here.
Since some docos and books are, more often than not, FACT based, though some are somewhat biased on occasions as well, many. many more are very reliable and often true.
As to visitation s from Extra-terrestrial Beings, well now, I worked in the Commonwealth Police for 4 years under secondment to another Government Department know as A.S.I.S.
There is an 'object' in Level 17 of Pit 4 in the Illawarra Escarpment that has been guarded 24/7 x 365 around the clock since it was uncovered by Coal Miners in 1956.
Level 17 IS one of the richest Coal seams in Australia and has been dated back to the Cambrian Epoch of Earth History btw, so that tells how old the layer/seam is.
I have actually seen it, as have everyone who was/is ROSTERED to guard it, it IS NOT natural in shape, size or of known materials, has no entrances visible and NO support structures holding it in place either.
It is approx. 3 metres in length, 2.5 metres in width and 1.89 metres in height as well, very very shiny on the exterior and looks very much like a tear drop in shape.

@Triphid The problem with your story is to me, just a story...if you provided pictures or a bit of it or a schematic of the interior or even a drawing of it in crayons then it would be of interest..sorry...lol

@James121 Taking photos when everyone is searched BEFORE gong on watch and afterwards as well.
Pit #4 IS the ONLY Coal mine on the Illawarra Escarpment that has a 10 feet high Chain-wire Mesh Fence encircling it, more floodlights than a maximum Security Prison and guards patrolling both outside and inside the fence PLUS 2 guards at the entrance-way into the Pit, 2 more at the entrance to Level 17 and 4 more patrolling the excavated object.
In 1978-79 when I was there you WERE required to SIGN the Secrecy Act, change from your uniform into a WHITE boiler suit and take NOTHING of a personal nature down with you NOT even your meals.
You did 3 hours on Level 17, 3 hours at the Level Entrance and 2 hours at the Pit Entrance for every shift.

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One more time........

Put brain in gear before putting mouth into motion.

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Why do we need to think that something or someone created us?

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Reading this made me think of Kitty

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How do we know there was no world-wide flood? Boyle's Law (PV=nRT) has specific ramifications for that much of a change in water volume. Also, not enough water on the planet to turn us into water world (despite the movie). While I haven't done a deep dive, I seem to remember that some cultures don't have a flood myth, mainly ones that were far inland.
Aliens watching us, need the proof. Documentaries are not proof. I have made crop circles for a laugh and they got local attention (though never national attention) when I was in high school. Is it possible that there is a race of being from another planet watching us, sure. Is it possible we are in a simulation and not "real" as we would define it, also sure. Next question is where is the proof for either claim. Until the evidence is there, and it lines up as the best explanation, we do not accept them as such. I love Tolkien, have read all of his books, seen his major movies, and even biographical shows/movies about him that included info about Middle Earth. It doesn't mean that his fantasy world is a real place.

You could have warned us with a spoiler alert.

Randall Carlson brought a geological proof that the flood happened. he was hosted by Joe Rogan in his podcast, the episode's number is 606.
Please also know that i am not on the side of the religious story that says that noah build a boat and shit like that.. i am only saying that the flood may have happened. thank you.

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You want constructive opinions? Ok, here they go: if you are going to be posting crap like this in the future no alien or holy book or any other of your bs books will save you from ridicule.

i have the right to post what i want. however, seeing it as crap happens to be your problem not mine, sir. it is a subject to talk about not to describe it as crap. thanks for constructive feedback.. it tells me a lot.

@Basem continue posting crap then.

@Mofo1953 i wonder why you got attracted to crap then?

@Basem you gotta read a lot of crap in this site unfortunately, like kissing lots of frogs before finding a princess.

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Sounds to me like a series of books called "Chariots of the Gods" and "Return of the Gods" that were around back in the 1970's and 1980's.
Oh, and plus a liberal dash of the Sci-Fi movie " Prometheus" thrown in as well imo.

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pseudo-science

A.K.A. Woo-woo.

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I think you're confusing scientists with religious lying sacks of stupidity

no i i am not. i know i am talking about.

@Basem apparently not

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History refutes a world-spanning flood that wiped out nearly everyone on the planet. The supposed biblical flood is said to have occured around 2400 BCE. Yet civilizations existed during that time that have no record of being wiped out. The Mesopotamians, civilizations in what is now Pakistan and Afghanistan, the ancient Egyptians, and the Mayans all somehow survived this supposed flood.

That's aside from the utter nonsense of believing that animals from all over the world traveled thousands of miles to the Middle East to ride on a boat, then afterward all returned to their homes. Utter preposterous.

As far as aliens... it's quite plausible and likely that life exists elsewhere in the universe. Does intelligent life exist elsewhere in the universe? That's very plausible. But intelligent life that has created interstellar travel and found Earth becomes a bit of a stretch of the imagination.

Is it possible that life or human life was created by alien intelligence? Sure, it's not impossible but likely impossible to prove. And since homo sapieans first appeared about 100,000 years ago and our predecessors appeared some 300,000 years ago its equally plausible that if aliens did create us they might be long extinct.

thank you very much 🙂

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"alien watching "? good! here's my chance to sell out humanity. i wonder what i can get for it? i want at the least...an ice cream sandwich

I'd go for a Klondike bar.

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Any alien who has watched me shit would immediately leave the Earth never return! Especially if he's able to smell…

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Sounds like a well made SCIENCE FICTION movie.. for entertainment.

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Do you have any objective evidence that aliens come to earth?

no i dont.

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Let the alien watch. It doesn’t particularly bother me, and maybe she/he/it will learn something. I have skills ...

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oy vey

Leelu Level 7 Feb 22, 2021

i,ll raise you an oy guvalt!

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Where did you see this documentary? What has been your prior experience with the subject matter? I am curious though, as well as thinking you a bit naive to believe there is open mindedness of people on the web

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Did the walls of Jericho come tumbling down ? Yes they did, according to archeology, many times, because its a big earthquake zone, and they never mastered earthquake proof building. Did they come tumbling down because someone blew trumpets ?

There are not just factually accurate accounts, and false accounts. There are also, once factual accounts garbled to the point where they are no longer of value, and the older they are the more garbled they become..

Is it necessary to trumpet the specious historicity from the ramparts.

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If there is a "high possibility that an alien may be watching you closely ... in the toilet ..." then you should speak to your doctor.

why do you think that and how can you be sure that there are no aliens around? the documentaries are showing us all evidence about them. i think it is you who need to see a doctor. please don't personalize the talk.

@Basem you stated your beliefs, I succinctly stated mine, and my psychiatrist concurs.

@waitingforgodo good for you.

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If, as you surmise, we are being watched. There is nothing I can do about it. So, tell me, why should I care. If it gets its rocks off by watching me in the carzie doing the necessary; then so be it. There are people on this planet who enjoy watching shit of any kind so that makes them no different than a lot of other people. However, having said/typed that, I seriously doubt that it occurs.

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