What if you clearly agree to sex on demand as a condition to the relationship? This post isn't about this anyway... But under human rights are you correct or are you 1984 trolls at the dollar store?

1. right to free speech
2. buy a gun

Other documents sound better...

@BananaFlambe "demand"?
Anyone agreeing to sex on demand as a condition of a relationship, also has the right to change their mind.
What's your deal anyway?
Are you just trolling?

@BananaFlambe WTF are you trying to say in this last comment? "Human rights"? "1984 trolls at the dollar store"?, as well as the rest of the bizarre stuff about the two rights of free speech and buying a gun, "other documents sound better".. As a shrink would say, regarding schizophrenia, you are making a lot of what are called "loose associations", and it makes me wonder how well your mind is functioning...

Ding, ding, we have our winner!......

That's not what the op is about

Soooo, Deb, how long have you known my ex?

@BananaFlambe, as vague as the op was, there is way to know. Expecting specific answers to ambiguous questions is pretty manipulative.

I'm closing in on that in a few years, it's a scary thing to face...

@TomMcGiverin I don't miss it that much.

@xenoview Suit yourself. I really do, along with the affection I also had with her. To me, both are equally important and satisfying..

@xenoview Many things far more important and meaningful than sex.

From what I've read it is a symptom of something else and getting to the root of the problem can be a real challenge.

@LovinLarge true. I wish we had been mature enough to figure that out at the time but we’ve both moved on now.

Never heard of this?

@BananaFlambe Your link doesn't work and both of your comments on this thread are nonsensical. And you sound like a rape apologist.

@BananaFlambe Video won't play...

@LovinLarge I wonder why @bananaflambe does not simply make this thread clear in plain English, no cute comments, no videos that are broken, just actually speak plainly. If they are writing about being in prison, or if they are writing from prison, then they should just say so. If there is some annoying issue with whether or not they are allowed to say so (maybe they are on a prison computer and are not allowed to communicate in certain forums) then I don't know what to say about that, but IMO they should do a better job of clarifying whatever it is they want to ask.

@kmaz Very astute. I fear there is a very specific reason that he does not write clearly. By suggesting that something should be illegal or that it constitutes cruel and unusual punishment implies that it should be required, taken by force if necessary. I wonder if those who voted "yes" truly advocate that same position.

I think the question is referring to inmates... so by the justice system/ enforcers.

Didn't this happen in the English dept? Seriously...

I think this is a reference to inmates and not allowing conjugal visits...

@ChestRockfield well it's in the love and relationship section and as I noted you can have sex in prison you just might not like the kind it is. But if in fact it is a prison situation, it's called punishment. The Constitution also says you have a right to life liberty and property. But not in prison because deprivation of Liberty would be cruel and unusual punishment then right?
Here's are two cases on the issue:
Hernandez v. Coughlin
United States Court of Appeals, Second Circuit Mar 3, 1994
18 F.3d 133 (2d Cir. 1994
Lyons v. Gilligan, 382 F. Supp. 198 (N.D. Ohio 1974)

@lerlo I didn't say where I stood, I was just explaining what I think the post is about.

@ChestRockfield and I was explaining why it wouldn't be cruel and unusual punishment in that scenario

@OldMetalHead Thank you. I wasn't going to bother responding to that nonsense.

As my brother, the lawyer who is now a judge, used to say, " You can sue whoever you like, for whatever reason you want to, but actually having a case is a whole other matter"....

@OldMetalHead oh it has to be within the rules? Pretty sure it's sex and the questioner didn't say anything about what kind of sex. Guess I missed the conjugal visit part of his of his post

@OldMetalHead, @TomMcGiverin which is exactly why I posted the cases that say it's not cruel and unusual punishment

@OldMetalHead well to some people the rule of law means something. Shockingly the courts have found that prisons have deprived inmates of certain rights and required them to change things

@OldMetalHead I'm sure that has something to do with whether or not you should be able to have sex while in prison. I will eagerly await your post on whether or not the United States should have jails or prisons.

@OldMetalHead and I was responding to your comment that of course the court said it's not cruel and unusual because otherwise they couldn't justify imprisoning people. And that just because the court said it doesn't mean it's not cruel and unusual implying that courts here are wrong and apparently you and the poster are correct. Taking you're "just because the court said it doesn't mean it's right" statement to its normal course, we shouldn't follow anything a court says. Consequently the rule of law falls apart. Which is of course your choice if you want to be an anarchist or a republican who only follows laws that they like

I don't know what you talking a bout, willis

Sex is not foundational for all marital relationships and some are successful without it. Those marriages are just as valid as any other and participation remains voluntary. I don't think this is common knowledge, thanks for the opportunity to mention it.

@LovinLarge I could care less about each couples personal sexual relationships. Whatever works for them is their business.
The fact remains that she doesn’t “want” him. I stand by my comment regardless of your irrelevant comment.

@LovinLarge If sex with his partner is important to him, he should move on and quit whining about it. Because it clearly isn’t something that’s going to change.

@Buck There can be other causes than her not wanting him so no, that is not a universal fact or even necessarily a fact in this particular case.

You asked why people would stay in a sexless relationship which is why I explained that not all marriages involve sex. That is the opposite of "irrelevant".

You sound angry. I can see how this post would hit a nerve with some people, it did with me. Lashing out at people trying to be helpful is unwarranted. I was adding to your comment, not criticizing it. No offense intended.

@LovinLarge You we’re stating the obvious. And I’m far from angry about shit. This is my everyday charming personality, carry on……

In the words of the immortal philosopher Lou Reed, " I do believe, if you don't like things you leave".... esp. if young children are not involved....

I'm being prevented from having a relationship. It's whoever controls my computer and cell phone. Clearer?

@BananaFlambe Thanks for clarifying it. I have a computer, a landline phone and membership on Match.com for over three years now. I have been unable to find a long term relationship, tho I did date two women for six months each, at different times. That is the best I could do, with the way the numbers game of online dating works, how mismatched I am for most of my local online dating pool, and how much competition I face in that local pool, but I never blamed the people that run my phone service, that just sounds crazy, sorry to be so harsh. I do feel some resentment at whoever runs Match, because they keep making the profile formats worse and more limited over time, and that does hurt all but their most best looking members from connecting with compatible people. But I still don't feel that the folks running Match are singling me out for mistreatment, just that they only care about money and want to limit their member profiles as much as possible, because it saves them money in what they spend on IT services.

Join the club, almost all of us singles are screwed by the online dating sites, but it's nothing personal. The sites don't care about any of us or about helping us find partners, they just care about money and they aren't regulated at all, so we are on our own.

@TomMcGiverin dating is a real life thing in my opinion... Like going to the zoo or botanic gardens.. you expect real life to be there and not pictures of those things. Now why those matchmaking services are missing in real life might be the dark side of the economy

and for me, unacceptable.

@jlynn37 I agree