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Is it a comedians job to be vulgar sometimes?

Timmythinks 4 June 1
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There was a great come back by a UK comic called Frank Skinner. After a gig a young woman approached him and said "Excuse me but I think that some of your material was verging on the offensive" He replied "Sorry love but I think that the only virgin on the offensive here is you"

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Humour is good for us. Good comedy often challenges stereotypes; also good for us. Don't know that it HAS to vulgar, but I surely don't mind it when it is...

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Humour is good for us. Good comedy often challenges stereotypes; also good for us. Don't know that it HAS to vulgar, but I surely don't mind it when it is...

@Palacinky I would have thought that anything which "confirms stereotypes, bullies and demeans" could hardly be defined as remotely funny; ie, humour. The "us" was not conditional.

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Sure, for some it is necessary. For me the best comedians are the ones who are being honest about who they are when performing. I believe that is true for all people in the creative arts. It doesn't always mean you will be really good or successful, but you will feel good about yourself. Of course l could be totally wrong. ?

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Richard Pryor, Chelsea Handler, Bill Maher, Lewis Black, Wanda Sykes, Red Foxx,

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yes it is the best comics are the ones who aren't affraid to cross that line Lenny Bruce was arrested multiple times for being "blue" and George Carlin made a career out of it

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Comedians are often vulgar because life is so vulgar. We laugh at comedians because they are often saying the stuff we couldn't put language to.

And they can say anything they want- from apes to zebras. There are consequences to behaviors and a comedian is no exception.

My concern isn't the language used (well never mind, it is) but it's the ethics and justification behind it. Say it, own it, and suck it up if it gets you in trouble.

,,,yep agree

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Yes, if that vulgarity has a point. Look at the genuis of Richard Prior and Eddie Murphy. Both masters of comedy.

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Do you think anyone bothered to look up the word 'feckless' ? Or did they all just lose their collective mind (not plural-just the one), over the use of "cunt" ?

@MarvelAnn You are absolutely correct.
Roseanne's comment was racist and a lie. Nothing about it was remotely funny.
Samantha Bee's comment was spot on and rooted in reality.
Ivanka IS a feckless cunt. And tone deaf AF.

@TheMiddleWay Having one is quite different from "being" one.
Just as having an asshole is different from being an asshole.

How you choose to refer to anyone is entirely up to you. No one has
to like it, but again, that's your choice. Do I want anyone calling me a 'cunt'? I'd rather they didn't. I try not to act like one so they don't.

It's a common insult directed at both men and women in other countries.
Just because it's considered "vulgar" here, so what?
Besides, it's just a word. Even if anyone calls me that, I'm not going to
lose my mind over it.

@TheMiddleWay That is your perspective on the whole thing, which you're entitled to.
My perspective is different.

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Vulgarity is subjective.
Racism isn't funny.
Calling a feckless cunt out on her tone-deafness is.

@TheMiddleWay You do have a point, but blatant racism is still unacceptable, and should be called out.

Dave Chappelle uses racism in his comedy.

@NothinnXpreVails He does, and for some reason, which I cannot begin to explain, when he's doing it, it's funny.
It's like black people calling one another the "n" word, and it being okay, but if a white person does it, it's really, really wrong.
I really can't understand or explain the difference, and if I were to try, I'd end up looking like a fucking racist moron.

@KKGator I think it is funny because he makes a mockery of it. That’s the key, pointing out its shortcomings.

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People who think calling black people apes is funny, are people I don't want to be around.

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The comedian's job is to stretch the envelope of social intercourse, to test the waters of the forbidden, and to light fires under the seats of power. To poke fun at me and you. To poke fun at themselves. To scratch the underbelly of society. That they can do this while applying humor to the awkward is one of the crowning achievements of the human endeavor. They walk a narrow ridge line with sheer cliffs on either side, because society is made up of all sorts who take umbrage at the oddest things. Prudes. Religious nuts. Political wingdings. An array of hot buttons that makes the nuclear arsenal look like wet fireworks. Are there lines that should not be crossed? Sure, but I suspect that the lines are probably damned hard to see sometimes.

Hopefully, you don't think comparing a black person to an ape is funny.

@birdingnut -- The question was not about that, was it? The question was, "Is it a comedian's job to be vulgar sometimes?" It is that to which I responded. Nothing else.

Regarding Roseanne's unmistakable racist remark, that is not humor. Interestingly, I have been listening to some christian radio today and it is amazing how many of them are scrambling to find excuses for her and resorting to what about so and so arguments as if that would somehow make things better. As far as I'm concerned, she said it, she needs to own it.

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Their job has always been to push the boundaries of what acceptable in society. The best comedians ever were also foul mouthed sobs.

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Actually the challenge for them is not to be.... clearly not all of them can

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I feel comedians are the ones who define boundaries. If they didn't speak to the literal edge of tolerance, how would society know where we are at.

So, you think comparing a black person to an ape is funny?

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Define vulgar.

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Totally agree with all the others. We are in a weird time in society, where mixed messages are being sent about what's "ok" and not. It's all jumbled up, and I have a feeling it's because of generational differences, a loss of appreciation for recent history, and how the internet has changed us and the minds of those who know nothing else. Some feel it's not ok to have their faults pointed out, at all...everyone gets a trophy. Is it ok for a comedian to cut someone down? I can't imagine a proper roast these days. Chapelle quit. Hell... I can't even imagine Amy Schumer style comedy coming out right now. The question is...will it ever be "ok" again, to be raunchy, abrasive, and obnoxiously outspoken? It feels opressive to think that this raunch is currently being silenced...which leads to questions like this! Sadly, what you ask is: is free speech still acceptable? And the reason we ask is that some people have made it clear that their answer is "no"...at present. ???

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Yes, but not calling black people apes. That is never funny.
If you think so, you are also racist.

Not ever funny to you, and most people. Some do find humor in it, but such is life. If we start truly regulating humor, we'll truly be lost.

@SortaStoic Not regulating, just not accepting their shows. So are you agreeing that it's OK to compare blacks to apes?

@birdingnutI don't agree that it's funny but I'm not a comedian. just don't go and see them, simple. the question I thought was is it a comedians job to be vulgar? not are black people monkies?

@birdingnut i didnt agree with fuck all. you shouild learn to read before you jump down my throat.

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its just the nature of the beast but we are all adults and should know that. remember its just a joke.

Seriously, you think comparing a black person to an ape is funny?

@birdingnut what I think is funny has no reflection on what comedians say. they tend to be abusing someone verbally one way or the other.

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All comedians have a style that defines them. Some uses vulgarity to define their comedy style.

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Yes. If it was always between the lines it wouldn’t be funny.

You think comparing a black person to an ape is funny?

@birdingnut Why do you keep repeating this? No one has said anything about Roseanne Barr's overtly racist tweet. It's a question about comedians and naughty words, not "Is it a comedian's job to be racist sometimes?"

@Hermit To know who to block. Most of the people so far seem to have a "whatever" attitude about it. I've already blocked two from this thread. I have no interest in being friends with racists. I even have a black nephew and don't need to be around people who think calling black people apes is OK.

@birdingnut You're the only one who keeps shoving this in people's faces. Not one person here has mentioned anything close to thinking racism is ok. You're sounding a bit...unstable, and for me to say that, you have to be coming across as quite unstable. Please, check yourself.

@birdingnut I said nothing of the kind.

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Comedians tools are words. No words should be off limits

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