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I came across this yesterday on Facebook and I found it interesting in light of the legal problems the orange turd is embroiled in that also surface yesterday, I am sure many of you have seen it already. The last statement in it I found particularly troubling; so, here is my question to the American rational socialists in this group. How dangerous is a martyred Trump backed by the white evangelicals? [themaven.net]

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Sounds to me like a lottery -its scary over here too with our Brexit negotiations - what I don't understand really is are our 'leaders' playing at being thick or are they for real - Theresa May is hopeless and pointless . My grandmother would have said "we are all going to hell in a handbucket' (Not that she believed in hell as she lived through WW1 & WW2 and knew thta hell is what we do to each other.

jacpod Level 8 Aug 23, 2018
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I would simply state the old saying that an animal is never more dangerous than when cornered. Trump is becoming a dangerous cornered animal with each passing day. Once he is finally discredited and removed I think his martyrdom will not last long, even amongst his core rump people. He will be a "loser" and they will walk away, like when Nixon left in 1974. But until then the danger he poses in office everyday cannot be underestimated. He capacity to deflect and divert attention away is beyond doubt, no matter the cost. His allegiance to Russia is also beyond doubt and very probably more insidious than we know. We still don't know what he and Putin agreed on and discussed. He is a clear and present danger to the US and the western alliance, and his removal cannot come soon enough. As regards the Christian Right, they dropped Nixon as soon as he was finished. Same with Trump.

David1955 Level 8 Aug 22, 2018

I hope you are right but I don't recall the same kind of support for Nixon his christian right support was not nearly as linked to race as Drumpf's. Nixon never promised their churches political rights and the ability to preach politics from the pulpit.

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Basically, Trumps die-hard supporters would back him even if a voice from "Heaven" declared him to be giant turd. Making him a martyr to them would change little for the vast majority. They have their pride wrapped up in that support. (I just heard that something like 52% of Republican voters back in Nixon's day still supported him even after he was impeached.) For the few who might feel an inclination to threaten violence, I say a Martyred Trump is still less dangerous than Trump with unconstrained authority, which is what he is trying to claim already. It is time to "Lock him up!"

As long as we can get the trumpturd out of office. The damage he is causing will haunt us for a long time. Little by little his people are getting indicted and we got three including Trump's attorney. They are facing jail and will probably talk to make a deal with the prosecutors

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I can't really comment because I am not fully aware being on the other side of the world that is also in deep doo-doo but I agere he is an orange turd !

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