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It's Muuundaaaay
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 10, 2019:
Glad I'm retired. I remember how some working days I almost needed to be reminded that stabbing people is wrong, lol!
Nothing beats being single except being single and living alone! I had such an experience for 2 ...
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 10, 2019:
It all depends on how you are wired emotionally and whether the situation is by choice or not. Some people prefer being alone for the long term and some don't. I am the latter. Also living alone is more attractive, at least to me, when you are young, have more hope about your future and are new to the freedom of living alone.
WHO’S DATING “LOCAL?
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 10, 2019:
Not me, and I'd wager that damn near nobody else has either.
A series of studies published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology show that ...
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 10, 2019:
I've often wondered if this sort of thing was true of many of the most anti-gay Repubs, and sometimes it has turned out to be the case with some Repubs who got exposed as actually being gay. Now we know why some Repubs act like they hate gays in their political speech and policies, besides the other reason, which is that it raises money for them and fires up their supporters.
I would welcome the opportunity to try psychedelics, to counteract my suicidal despair, which has ...
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 10, 2019:
I recommend a really interesting book about exactly that stuff that someone steered me towards recently. It's called A Really Good Day and it's a woman's personal story about a month in which she took microdoses of LSD to treat her depression and kept a journal about it. She was already a published writer so this book is very easy to read, funny and interesting. I hope it is helpful. In her case, the microdosing was helpful for her depression, where before nothing was really working very well for her on that.
I have tried a couple of other date sites and so many profiles start out with must love Jesus, or ...
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 10, 2019:
As far as meeting people to date on this site, it all really depends on where you live or if you are willing to date someone LD. Some locations allow local dating options with members of this site and some don't. I am not familiar with the concentration of Agnostic's members in Colorado, but my guess is that your chances of local dating options there are probably about average, which is, it's possible but not good. Visited your profile and checked the listings of nearby female members. Not good, just as I guessed it. You have one female member your age, practically the same as you, in your area, but she hasn't been on the site for three months. You may as well message her and see what happens. Good luck, hope you have more success than me on here.
I realized something today about myself.
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 10, 2019:
I wish I could help man, but it would be the blind leading the blind because I have never been good at talking to single women either when I am single and on the market. I am fine at talking to female friends and to a woman that I have been dating for a while when she has given me enough encouragement and affirmation for me to feel secure with her. But that whole salesmanship stuff that guys are expected to have when they first encounter them online or in person, no, I am a total bust and klutz at that. Maybe women need to be a little more realistic about what they expect from men conversationally in the early stages, because the truly sincere, nice, and healthy guys are not going to be slick, confident, smooth, or as calm as the guys that are actually players, jerks, and such. And that's because maybe the truly nice and caring guys have more genuine feelings about women vs. the players and jerks because they feel something more is on the line besides a conquest. Something else to consider is that before women decide to be so critical of how smooth and charming a man needs to be in talking to them at the start they should try it themselves a few times and see how hard it is. I bet they wouldn't be so critical or demanding of how confident and smooth a guy needs to be. Stay strong man, I doubt the problem is all you...... Talking to women when they are attached or you are attached and all there is is platonic friendship is easy for me and should be easy for all men because there is nothing on the line or any risk of rejection or blowing an encounter or opportunity where you feel there is attraction and maybe also compatibility. In that scenario, esp. if the man has not had any success and acceptance from new women in quite a while, confidence and smoothness is very hard to have, so men are expected to fake it, which makes a truly nice or sensitive guy even more uncomfortable. So women who want guys who are nice, genuine, and appropriately sensitive might think twice about how much confidence and smoothness they expect. Conclusion: Women should consider whether they are more interested in dating a man who is a good salesman and actor who can put out charm and confidence or do they want a man who can actually be a good partner. There is a difference in the skill set needed to do each of these things.
Just curious. Who would not have joined this forum if it was called atheist.com?
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 9, 2019:
I would not have cared. Living in a conservative, traditional values type of US state, I do think that calling the site Atheist.com would maybe deter some potential members who live in areas like mine. Here in Iowa the term atheist has such negative connotation and stigma, very similar to what communist still has and what the term homosexual had a few decades ago. The term Agnostic seems somewhat less extreme or harsh compared to Atheist in areas like mine, probably because it is less known than Atheist., so that might make it easier for non-believers to feel comfortable with identifying with the community and the association with other non-believers. Most people in Iowa really are too ignorant to even know what agnostic means, so that way the term has not been as poisoned and loaded with stigma here like Atheist. A side note, at a meeting of a Meetup.com group for singles called Dating After Divorce, we were discussing online dating profiles and I said that I listed myself as Spritual, But Not Religious, which is one of the categories you can choose from on the profile for yourself, even tho I told the group I was an agnostic. A woman then asked me why I did not list myself as Agnostic. I told her it was for two reasons, one, Agnostic seems more off-putting to most Iowa women who are believers than Spiritual But Not Religious, and I am tired of being rejected for ignorant assumptions on the part of other people. And that my second reason was that most people in Iowa are too ignorant to know that the term Agnostic means. She and about all the other women in there were very offended by that remark on my part. But I answered that maybe sometimes the truth hurts your feelings and that their reaction proved my point, namely that both terms for non-believers are very foreign to their experience and makes them feel threatened by being unknown and different from their experience. BTW, almost all the women in that singles group are also members of Christian Singles Meetup groups in my area, so, big surprise there..........NOT....
Religion in a relationship
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 9, 2019:
Depends. Only if the believer is not strongly religious and also tolerant of the atheist or agnostic's non-belief. In my experience, that tolerance is very rare, and since I Iive in Iowa, which is pretty much the same as Nebraska, all I can say is good luck with trying to date in rural Nebraska. Because even tho I don't live in rural Iowa, because for me that would be unliveable even with a partner, trying to date as an Agnostic here in urban Iowa is damn near impossible at my age. Fortunately you are a little younger than me, but you may find you need to date LD to find someone compatible. It's likely you will need to date someone from Omaha or Lincoln, maybe even out of state to find a partner.
[lgbtqnation.
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 9, 2019:
Hope he carries a good, high dollar type of comprehensive coverage on his truck so he can afford all the vandalism that he is in for....
Very challenging week, the ex and his girlfriend (they live across the street from me), started ...
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 9, 2019:
Glad I have never been divorced. It has to be tough continuing to see someone that you know is a dick or bitch around that you can't get out of your life no matter how much you would like to.
"No more traveling! Unless you take us! This is now OUR duffle!!:
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 9, 2019:
Squatter cats...
Don't tease Opera Cat!
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 9, 2019:
How could you ever get a cat into that?
Not in a cats vocabulary🤣😂😅
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 8, 2019:
I love the cat's puzzled expression of " What?"
Not in a cats vocabulary🤣😂😅
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 8, 2019:
Very cute and true. Cats are so loveable and admirable in how they will do whatever they damn well want to whenever they want to. I think cat lovers envy and admire that in them. Hence, the expression about "trying to herd cats" as the idea of attempting something that's difficult if not impossible......
It pains me to block ladies. Women need to support each other.
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 8, 2019:
I guess I am different than you because I have blocked 16 people so far, both men and women as I believe in equal opportunity, and probably have been blocked by just as many, maybe more. I don't lose any sleep over either of those situations. I have strong opinions and I state them without mincing words and without apology, so I'm not surprised I get blocked a lot. I, like you, take pride in my writing ability and usually edit my comments at least once to make sure they are correct and understandable. Sounds like this person was being petty, spiteful and full of shit. I have seen much of your writing and I can see why you are published. I also think that Deiter's writing also rocks... As far as female solidarity, I can see why that is important to you, but character should always matter more than gender. Gender should never, at least in my book, trump character in how I judge people nor should it ever excuse bad behavior. I wouldn't lose any sleep over blocking this woman if I were you, but that's just me....
Spirituality in Film & Literature
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 8, 2019:
To be honest, I really don't watch much in the way of TV shows or movies about sci fi, fantasy or supernatural stuff. It usually doesn't interest me. Most of what I watch is about actual mortal people, altho with some imagination thrown in so it is more interesting than real life, as well as biopics or movies based on true stories as well as documentaries. To give you an example of my tastes, I think that Mad Men and The Sorpranos are the two best TV shows I have ever watched. The Shawshank Redemption and Office Space are both two of my favorite films.
Joan Baez. [youtu.be]
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 8, 2019:
This is such an achingly beautiful, haunting personal song. It was her only real hit, and I sometimes sing it at karaoke. I like to genderbend sometimes and the song's key works perfectly for my baritone voice singing it a few octaves down from Baez. Crowds always seem to really relate to the song and like it, even if they have never heard it before.
Being agnostic and being a close-minded dick are 2 different things
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 7, 2019:
Agreed. As I have said before, I really don't care much what others believe as long as they don't hassle me or try to legislate their beliefs towards some kind of theocracy. Live and let live. I'll be me and they be them, esp. now that I am retired and don't need to be around anyone anymore that I don't want to be. And yes, being a believer or a non-believer, neither entitles anyone to act like a dick about it or act that way most of the time. Some of the time, sure, it's unavoidable, at least for me and in my experience, most people. Most of us are not good enough people to do otherwise.
Am I being unreasonable?
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 7, 2019:
As thin-skinned as I can be about some things, esp. these days, I really don't get irritated about trivial stuff like this. I just consider the positive motivation and vibe behind the gesture and blow it off, or, better yet, take it as a sign of friendly neighborlyness. Maybe I'm wrong to feel that way, but when you live in a place like Iowa and are so surrounded by Christians and a culture where at least appearing to be friendly and neighborly to others is so revered, I maybe just feel unable to bother making an issue of such things. It certainly won't get me anywhere when I am so outnumbered here and in most cases would only leave me feeling frustrated and ostracized and probably banned from the coffeehouse for making a stink about it. In other words, when you live in a place where you are way outnumbered by members of the majority culture and are such an outsider culturally and in lifestyle, you have to pick your battles over when to speak up and buck the mainstream. This whole debate reminds me of what a junior high teacher told me back in my hometown of Ottumwa Iowa. We were talking in his history class about race relations and the teacher related a conversation he had with one of his few black students in my very typical white town that had only six black families out of a population in the high 20ks. The teacher asked the black student in one of his other classes if Ottumwa had any racial problems. The student answered him that " We sure do but the whites are never going to hear about it because there aren't enough of us to do anything about it or risk making trouble about it". I think a lot of privileged white folks forget about this dynamic, esp. when they live in a place that is diverse and more progressive and secular than Iowa. So, in the final analysis, it depends a lot on not just you, but the environment you live in. Imagine how blacks have felt all these years whenever they lived in a place that was majority white and white dominated? Were they being unreasonable to be offended at racial slights and want to fight back or change things? It all depends on your situation and perspective. Of course, my analogy of non-believers with blacks is very loose because color is obvious while being gay or non-believing is not. Which is why we have more in common with queer folk than racial minorities as far as being non-mainstream, alto most straight people still think they can spot gay and lesbian people just by their look based on stereotypes. Much harder to do that with non-believers just by looking at us. In the words of Bruce Hornsby, " That's just the way it is, some things will never change..."
R.
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 7, 2019:
Wow, that had to be such an experience! To me Lou Reed was always the man and I never got to see him live. In fact, he only played one Iowa concert in his life, and I was way too young at the time, back in the early 70s or so.
How considerate. 🙄
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 7, 2019:
Cats simply can't help being cats and doing what they do....
What do you look for in a man or a woman if you want a long term relationship, and whats more ...
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 7, 2019:
When you get to my age and retirement, ambition is probably or should be, out of the picture. I am getting to the point that what I look for doesn't seem to matter anyway, so I will pass on sharing my priority here. I also think that many people, including some on these boards, are less than honest about what they really are looking for in a partner for an LTR because they are lying because they don't want to look shallow or else in denial about how they really choose and evaluate potential partners. I think this is especially true regarding online dating and somewhat less true regarding who the meet IRL.
Any advice?
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 6, 2019:
Mariane- Please PM me. I respect your opinion and would like it on Kathleen's criticism of me below. Thanks.
What are some reasons you are afraid to commit?
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 6, 2019:
I can tell you, Jama, that you are very different than the women your age in my local area, even tho we are both in the Midwest. The women my age, about ten to twenty years older than you on Match, are almost all so damned family-oriented that they would ostracize you for a remark like yours about a guy being too wrapped up with his adult kids. I am totally ok with your attitude and wish I could meet someone like you my age in my area. I have no idea what the guys your age are like in your area, but you and me seem to be very unique for our local areas. The more time I spend on these boards, the more I realize how much people like us are fish out of water in places like Iowa and Indiana. But the problem is, how to find someone compatible without moving away and also without knowing anyone but maybe the person we met online from Agnostic who lives there, or else staying where we are and trying to date LD with someone from Agnostic, knowing that in most cases they live in a much better place for people like us than Iowa and Indiana and would never move to be with us? It's a hell of a bind when you live in a backward area with bad weather compared to the coasts.
Any advice?
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 6, 2019:
I have heard several stories on this site about how women found love and physical attraction later with guys that early on they had no physical attraction for. I have heard almost no stories on here about that happening for men with women they knew. I know myself pretty well and in that respect, at least, I am like most men, even tho I have had many platonic friendships with women and I am very patient about sex with women when I date. I just know that for me I either feel it early on or it's not going to happen. I don't want to lie to anyone, including myself, lead anyone on, or purposely friendzone someone from the start if I know that they are physically attracted to me and want to be more than friends.
What are some reasons you are afraid to commit?
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 6, 2019:
I think my problem is being too willing to commit, if anything, because it seems like most women my age are nowadays just as reluctant to commit as men. And, on the other hand, it seems like if a guy like me is open and willing to commit to a relationship after dating for several months, it also seems like women are so cynical about men that even the women who want to commit with a guy won't believe me even if I am sincere about it. In fact, if the guy brings up commitment before the woman these days, it seems like the women will assume the guy is needy or desperate, assuming they even believe he is sincere about it. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I have never gotten further than a few dates with anyone since I was widowed, so these comments about the dating scene now for people my age are based on discussions online and offline with women rather than personal experience. So take it for what it's worth or not worth.
I had an experience this weekend that made me consider that there may be a God and he must hate me.
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 5, 2019:
I have only had food poisoning once, but it was a ghastly experience where I feared I might die, but also felt like it might be better than what I was experiencing. Got some bad spaggetti and meatballs from a grocery store deli that had been at room temp for too long. I came back there after I was ok with my receipt and complained about my experience. They believed me and said I had not been the only one, so they gave me a refund for the meal.
Today would have been our 15th wedding anniversary.
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 5, 2019:
He looks like a cute man with a good sense of humor.
Any advice?
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 5, 2019:
Would like to, but can't help you. I have never had the looks and confidence, unlike you, to have women often and easily attracted to me, so I haven't dated that much in my life. Not that much before my late wife and not at all in the couple years since. I think my standards have always been ok, but I haven't had your type of background or experiences with dating. I got lucky finding my wife. I worked briefly with a dating coach recently and she concluded my standards are fine and appropriate. She wasn't much help to me really, because it appeared that my main problems with finding someone esp. thru online dating, were going to be my average looks and my being too offbeat in lifestyle and culture for my local area. The reasons behind that is that looks are huge, at least in the initial part of online dating and not only are there few female hipsters my age that are single, they are also not likely to use online dating compared to more mainstream women.
I like this, but I'd feel a little bad about eating it.
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 5, 2019:
That cake is hilarious! It reminds me of Marjorie's home on the TV show Mom. She is a crazy cat lady who is an AA sponsor to one of the show's two lead characters.
Petition to rename Munchie to one of these names. LOL
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 5, 2019:
Munchie's name is just fine.
A rare cat born with four ears. Yoda his name is... [twistedsifter.com]
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 5, 2019:
Really cute. Glad it was a positive mutation.
Fishing for a compliment. Squish. Has this ever happened to you?
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 5, 2019:
I can't remember the last time I fished for a compliment from someone offline or IRL. I just do the best I can on things and hope it works out. I don't get compliments very often offline or IRL, at least that I have noticed, so I guess I have just given up on seeking them or depending on them, as far as things I do offline.
Tony Awards are this Sunday, June 9th. Any thoughts about the nominees? [tonyawards.com]
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 4, 2019:
Haven't a clue. I honestly have not been following Broadway for a while now, just attending local theater productions.
This question is prompted by a conversation I had with a coworker at lunch today.
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 4, 2019:
I have learned the really hard way this decade that there are not certainties about the future. Once you reach my age or even 50, you have to start doing things and enjoying what you have as much as possible (easier said than done, of course) because the health of you or your SO may suddenly go at any time or one of you may even die. So from age 50 on, we really need to take the trips and go ahead with the bucket list, etc., rather than assuming we have another 30 years or more left with good health the whole time.....The stats show that is often not the case.....
Team Biden? Yikes! [youtu.be]
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 4, 2019:
I hope it's true that most likely Dem primary voters are waking up and realizing what I already have known for years, namely that he is Repub-lite, a corrupt, warmongering, corporatist jerk. The Dems will lose for sure if they nominate him and if so, I won't cry a tear for them or vote for their lesser evil candidate. We will see if they care more about keeping a progressive out of the White House and maintaining the status quo or about winning the prez race. I already know which the party leaders and superdelegates care more about. Sorry about the accidental italics, don't know how to undo it.
No problems here, man.
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 4, 2019:
Reminds me of that cat OD'd on catnip in the commercial for The Secret Life Of Pets movie that's out now.
Feeling nothing?
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 4, 2019:
I am definitely more sensitive than most people, esp. other males, but that is both a good and a bad thing. It's a good thing, for example, that when I go into a place like Wal-Mart, I can pay attention and be aware enough to see how bad most of the people there feel about themselves, esp. the ones working there. The place has the mood of a prison, at least as I see prisons. Nobody really enjoys being there, the look of weariness and defeat on the faces of many people in there, etc. I think it is good to have that kind of empathy and compassion for others. On the other hand, being too sensitive can be exhausting and unhealthy if I am getting regularly overwhelmed or worn down by feeling negative stuff about what is happening to me or others I care about. It can start to be somewhat like the John Coffey character in The Green Mile, feeling the weight of the world upon you with all the negative stuff going on around you. You definitely have some mental health issues. So do I with depression, so do most of us, if we are honest, because it is not easy to live so far out of the mainstream in culture and lifestyle from the society around us. Hang in there and give yourself some credit that you don't live in denial about your feelings and who you are or, worse, blot all that out like many Americans by escaping into recreational drugs or alcohol.
There are points in your life where you make decisions.
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 4, 2019:
I'm amazed that back in the day Match had a long questionnaire. Nowadays, I think about the only one that still does is E-Harmony. I would rather use a site that had that than one that didn't, but I have a couple issues with E-Harmony that keep me from using them. One is that the site is for people who want marriage and I have no intention of doing that again, simply because it isn't necessary or something I want at my age without kids. Secondly, they have a dysthymia scale as part of their personality survey and I would undoubtedly get rejected by them as a member because of that, so I'm not going to bother with them.
There are points in your life where you make decisions.
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 4, 2019:
We are all different Robert, so it's hard to judge someone else's decision on a situation such as yours back then. I can certainly relate. After I had already been dating my late wife for a couple years, she and I learned that her mother had dementia and my wife had already known or maybe suspected that her grandmother has also had it, so I was in a position around the time we got married of either deciding to cut my losses and split with her, or instead, choose to live with hope rather than fear, that she might not inherit the family genetics of dementia like the women before her or at least not develop it until age 75, like her mother. If I remember right, my wife was in her mid-50s at that time. I chose the latter and she didn't begin to develop dementia until almost age 69, in 2011. So we had 16 good years of dating and marriage before it went bad with the dementia. Regrets, sure I have a few, but they are more about how I handled her dementia some of the time, esp. in the early stages as I was trying to accept it and figure out how to cope with it. But as far as, should I have stayed in the relationship or not after finding out what was probably going to happen with her? Not a bit, it was hell for much of the time during her dementia, but that relationship was still worth it, to me at least. I cannot speak for anyone else as to if it would be worth it. We can only make those choices for ourselves and not judge or choose for others because, in the end, we are the ones who have to do the suffering for those choices and live with the results, esp. not somebody else sitting in judgement who hasn't been thru it. Thanks for sharing some very honest, genuine stuff. You are an ok guy, Robert.
I'm finally here after all these years.🤗
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 4, 2019:
Sounds cozy and like living the dream to me......
It looks like I have messed up yet again.
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 4, 2019:
I can relate to a lot of what you said. Getting to know some of the women on this site thru the discussion boards is a double edged sword. On the one hand, it proves to me that I am not undateable at all, unlike my experience with Match, which only makes me feel frustrated and discouraged about the process of finding someone compatible to date. And I think that is because the vast majority of people on here are very different, mostly in a good way, from the mainstream population of the US, particularly that of my local area. However, that's probably why there are very few active members here from my area, and those that are skew more towards being male. The result is that while the site provides me some validation that I am not undateable and am compatible with a decent number of hipster non-believers, it also probably provides me some false or artificial hope that is not very realistic for finding someone compatible in my local area, where there seem to be very few women my age, at least on Match, who are available and looking to date who share the same qualities as most of the women my age here on Agnostic. And one of those qualities, if the women on Agnostic are being honest here on the boards, is that they are more open-minded and less shallow about looks than most women on sites like Match. It almost feels torturous at times. I don't blame this site for my frustration, but the difference between it and sites like Match is huge, tho much of that is because this site allows people to get familiar with others more deeply and naturally instead of the very impersonal, competitive, and brief introduction process of the paid sites, as well as the fact that is attracts a very different, non-conformist type of member than a paid site, which will attract more often people who are more mainstream than us in culture and lifestyle.
Ever have a desperate dater? Ugh.
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 3, 2019:
Stalker alert.......
Why do you use agnostic.com?
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 3, 2019:
It serves some of those same purposes for me too. Yesterday I shared about my father's death both here and on FB. It was interesting to see the differences between the responses on the respective mediums. I got some very sincere, touching responses on FB, but I think the ones on here were more helpful, meaningful and comforting, probably because the commenters on here share my non-belief and are more honest and outspoken.
I am sure there are more out there! I still have hope.
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 2, 2019:
With your looks and personality, you've got nothing to worry about. It will only be a matter of time and numbers....
The artwork of R. Crumb - who else had this album?
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 2, 2019:
I do, on vinyl.
Helocopter Parents & Bulldozer Parents cause great damage to their children's ability to function as...
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 2, 2019:
I had never heard of the term bulldozer parents. Did the article define them?
I was offered a faculty job in Panama City Fl yesterday.
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 1, 2019:
Good for you, should be somewhat of a cultural improvement for you compared to Kansas. I've heard that about the only cool area of Kansas is the Lawrence area, due to the university there.
Just Change the Key Below, a guy takes minor key metal tunes and converts them to major keys ...
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 1, 2019:
I guess I would not want the key or mood changed of the music I like. Maybe it's dysfunctional, maybe not, but I don't want my genuine feelings about my situation invalidated that way. Honest feedback from others and taking meds for it are one thing, but denying my reality by altering the mood of the music I listen to is not something I want to change. Maybe varying the mood of what I listen to would help, but I don't want to change the character of the songs that I like and have connected to for many years. Funny thing is, I don't listen to metal at all, never have liked it.
Justice for Cat Raped by Arizona Man [idausa.
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 1, 2019:
I guess you can't make this shit up. That guy is one sick puppy (with apologies to puppies) with some very serious issues. I'll need some time to get that described image out of my mind.
Are we living in a cocaine era?
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 1, 2019:
I think you are on to something. People's choices of mood-altering chemicals, whether in drinks or in drugs makes a big difference in their behavior, whether these chemicals are legal or not. Social media, the internet, and smartphones are all part of that as well as they affect behavior, personality, and perception of the world as well at the individual, group, and societal levels.
What does “beauty” or “desirability” or “attraction” mean to you?
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 1, 2019:
This is a hard thing for most people to be honest about, not me, but most people, because they don't want to be seen as shallow or hurt anyone's feelings. But in doing that, they are actually doing a disservice to others by giving them false hope about how open-minded most people are about looks in the dating game. The last two years have been a real education to me about the dating world after being out of it for almost 25 years. I applaud you, Amy, for posting this subject and being very honest about yourself. I will try to do likewise. When I first started to look at dating two years ago after being widowed, I had a decent amount of confidence in my looks based on my marriage to my late wife and her being attracted to me. But I also admit that before I met her, most of my adult life I did not have great confidence in my looks, even when I had a decent head of hair and was athletic. I thought my looks were still average at best. The last two years I have learned that most women in online dating can be just as shallow as the men are known to be. My confidence in my looks is now very low after the beatdown of all the rejection on dating sites. I have usually had a type or two that I was attracted to based on looks as far as who seemed attractive enough for me to want to approach them or meet them with dating in mind, but that has always been just a beginning part of it for me. Because if they were not also attractive in their personality, easy to talk to, and had some things in common, the looks no longer mattered enough to attract me. Looks do matter at the beginning with someone because I do not want to waste my time getting to know someone that I am interested in for dating if there is no potential for sexual attraction with them on my part. I don't want to disappoint myself or them, which is a real miserable experience if that happens later on after going out for a few times. I have tired of platonic friendship being offered by or accepted by me as a consolation prize after meeting someone and learning weeks later that either I or they had no physical attraction for the other. I have also learned that women that I meet thru online dating feel the same, they are not that interested in making male friends thru that process to keep as friends. What I and they really want is romance, companionship, and eventually sex with someone thru the dating process. Saying that making some more friends thru that process is worth the time and effort is really just rationalization, in my book, in order to not feel as bad about failure in the search.
Help, help!
TomMcGiverin comments on May 31, 2019:
Good one, that's funny.
I'm interested in getting opinions on the places in which you live. Do you love it or hate it?
TomMcGiverin comments on May 30, 2019:
I like the Des Moines area of Iowa because there is a lot to do and the cost of living is affordable as well as the traffic not being that bad and crime also not bad either. There is a Unitarian church in the area too if I ever get motivated enough to return to it. The whole problem with living here is that it's very hard to find someone my age to date since almost everyone is Christian, family-oriented, and not many hipsters my age. There are many hipsters in this area if I was young, but not many at my age, so I will probably be alone. If I were younger and not so dependent on my friends while widowed, I would probably move to Portland, OR.
Trump will get re-elected President of the USA.
TomMcGiverin comments on May 30, 2019:
I think Bernie would beat Trump is nominated by the Dems, which probably won't happen. If the nominee if Biden or some other centrist, Trump will win again. I am not hopeful about how this will go.
So glad these folks aren’t my neighbors!
TomMcGiverin comments on May 30, 2019:
You live in OK Madison, so I'm guessing these yokels are local?
If you have not figured it out by now . . . .
TomMcGiverin comments on May 30, 2019:
You are correct. They both serve the same masters who want permanent war and continued economic inequality. With the exception of a very few on the Dem side who will never likely be allowed to lead or have real power in the Dem party.
When i was single, and looking to get married, I had certain stipulations that was a deal breaker.
TomMcGiverin comments on May 29, 2019:
I have several dealbreakers, but it doesn't seem to really matter anymore because I am not meeting anyone on Match for the last few months.
WOODSTOCK REMEMBERED I was only 14 15 years old when the hippies came to NY for Woodstock.
TomMcGiverin comments on May 29, 2019:
You are right around my age and look younger than that. My late wife was 27 when she attended the festival. Glad you made it there. She would agree with you that it was worth a lot.
Story of my life lately. What’s yours?
TomMcGiverin comments on May 27, 2019:
I can totally relate. I consider it a success if I can get out of bed in the morning and stay out of it until the late evening. Yesterday I forced myself to join a friend at a blues concert and talk to a woman sitting near me that appeared to be single and gave her my phone number after talking a while and confirming that we were both single. I will probably never hear from her, but the whole point was taking the risk and making an effort offline.
This Memorial Day, Let's Learn From Our Mistakes and End Illegal War
TomMcGiverin comments on May 27, 2019:
If you really want to honor and support the troops, living and dead, you work to end the permanent wars for oil, empire and profit. Anything else is just mythology and distraction from the real enemy, as Casey so well puts it. The reactionaries with their Support The Troops bumper stickers can shove it....
A nice relationship story.
TomMcGiverin comments on May 27, 2019:
It is well known that long and successful relationships are rare in Hollywood, so I give them props for beating the odds. At the same time, rich and famous people like that live on a different planet than the rest of us, at least as far as I'm concerned, so even tho they are just as human as us, I do not look to them as role models for relationships or really concern myself with their lives and problems. I guess that is why I would not be a good Brit, because I really have little to no interest in what the royalty, real or figurative, are up to in their lives. I'm more interested in my friends and neighbors, real people that are actually part of my world.
Sme question for the ladies - Is this sexy and if so why? [youtube.com]
TomMcGiverin comments on May 27, 2019:
Cohen is like Dylan. The beauty is in the poetry of the songs and the heart and interpretation each of these men bring to the songs, even if other people sing them better than them. I like hearing each of them sing their own songs because it gives me more of the original emotion and feeling that inspired the song. Unfortunately Dylan has been unable to do anything but croak for the last few decades, but Cohen could still sing coherently even on his final album.
Due to this morning's empty dish situation....
TomMcGiverin comments on May 27, 2019:
Every cat considers their human staff replaceable.
Is it gone?
TomMcGiverin comments on May 27, 2019:
Poor scared kitty.
I saw Cohen in Sheffield 1974 - this guy shuffled onto the stage, dressed in a pullover and trousers...
TomMcGiverin comments on May 27, 2019:
I could not date someone who did not enjoy the music of him or Bob Dylan. Like someone who really liked country music, they would be incompatible with me.
Black Dems in vastly white Iowa poised to play 2020 role
TomMcGiverin comments on May 27, 2019:
Iowa has a 3% black population, but last time I checked something like a fourth of its prison population is black. Not a great state to be black in.
[buzzfeednews.
TomMcGiverin comments on May 27, 2019:
I'm amazed this kind of thing still happens, but glad that it does. It's also really cool that it happened across racial lines in Georgia.
I am watching vice. Damn I was depressed about trump. This is making it worse.
TomMcGiverin comments on May 27, 2019:
Cheney is America's version of Dr. Strangelove, the evil, secretive Nazi genius played by Peter Sellers in the movie of that name. I only hope that the movie Vice pisses Cheney off as much as it was meant to. When he finally dies, I bet his death will be celebrated here by progressives the way Thatcher's was in the UK.
Why is it people that say "I hate mean people, stuck-up people, people who can't take a joke, and ...
TomMcGiverin comments on May 27, 2019:
Projection.
“I’ll show you politics in America.
TomMcGiverin comments on May 27, 2019:
It is. The two major parties perform a version of Japanese kabuki theater between them pretending to be opposing each other while behind the scenes they enact a shared agenda of permanent war, shared rule by the rich and corporations that bleeds the rest of us dry while enriching those groups, and lastly letting the environment decay.
He Pope compares abortion to 'hiring a HITMAN' as he says it can never be condoned With the ...
TomMcGiverin comments on May 26, 2019:
This kind of bullshit always sets my mind to hearing Monty Python's song "Every Sperm Is Sacred". Maybe someone will post a link to it on YouTube for those who haven't heard it.
According to this video on preventing workplace violence my entire personality is cause for ...
TomMcGiverin comments on May 25, 2019:
I can relate. Good thing I'm retired, no one needs to worry that I'll come to work and shoot up the place. It also helps that I'm non-violent and not interested in owning or using guns. I'm being fairly facetious about fitting the profile.......But that's not to say I haven't been in jobs where I fantasized about doing harm to a boss or co-worker, but then again most of us males, at least, have done that. I never fantasized about killing them, just punching them out. I am also only referring to other males.
Pick two..
TomMcGiverin comments on May 25, 2019:
I would be happy with single, smart (not necessarily even well-educated) and average-looking. However, in my local area and age group, those qualities do not seem to come without the woman being a country music-loving, family-oriented believer and not a hipster at all, instead they are mainstream culture and lifestyle, unlike me and my friends.
Do you believe in friendship for no reason?
TomMcGiverin comments on May 25, 2019:
I think there is always a reason that we become friends with people, whether it's shared interests, likeable qualities, etc.. It's merely a matter of looking hard enough to see the reason or reasons.
AOC and Elizabeth Warren want you to know that Steve Mnuchin is a total dirtbag.
TomMcGiverin comments on May 24, 2019:
These two women and Bernie are the only ones in congress who will tell the truth about the rich and corporate America, about everybody else is just in politics to enrich themselves and cash in after politics for loyally serving both the rich and corporate America. As Michael Moore used to say, corporate America and the rich are our enemies, anything else like the culture wars, is just distraction away from the class war and to make it seem like the major parties are actually that different. If Bernie were not in the race and AOC was older, they would be a dream ticket.
Pete Buttigieg Ignored Mourning Mother [youtube.com]
TomMcGiverin comments on May 24, 2019:
I hope this goes viral and hurts the phony Mayor Pete with black and progressive primary voters in the Dem race. He is no better than Biden and is just in the race to stop Bernie.
Selfishness as a virtue?
TomMcGiverin comments on May 24, 2019:
I chose not to have kids and that can be taken either way, as selfish or generous. The selfish part of it was that I didn't want the burdens that come with parenthood. The unselfish or generous/altrusitic part is that I felt I would be a terrible parent based on what my father was like and the similarities with him that I saw in myself as a young man, so I didn't risk inflicting that on any children. The other unselfish part of being childless is knowing that without children I am likely to be left alone and with no one to look after me when I get older and sick, except for friends and possibly another life partner if I find another one and don't outlive them.
Tribalism: An exploration of the mechanisms that drive tribalism - and that offer a way out of it.
TomMcGiverin comments on May 22, 2019:
Tribalism explains a lot of what is wrong and bad in our politics and our society overall.
Is it a comedians job to be vulgar sometimes?
TomMcGiverin comments on May 22, 2019:
Professional comedians have the terms "working blue" and "working clean" to designate when they are performing for an adult audience that is expecting and ok with some vulgarity, while the other term applies to performing for an audience that is more restricted in what they will accept, like a Christian, conservative, or underage audience of kids, or for a broadcast TV audience where censorship standards don't allow vulgarity.
This is a man sharing his Family Values (Republican) with his wife. [usatoday.com]
TomMcGiverin comments on May 22, 2019:
I'm amazed that the party leader of his caucus is holding him accountable. Being a Repub usually means never having to say you're sorry or be punished for being an asshole. This POS needs to be hung up by his balls. Most likely his wife will forgive him and stay married to him tho. He will make a public show of going to rehab for his drinking so he can prepare for a return to public life, but I really doubt he will get any therapy for his mental health issues.
Having A 'Vent Buddy' Is Good For Your Health
TomMcGiverin comments on May 22, 2019:
I usually do, but I have to be careful not to wear them out. More than once a week is too much for them to handle and I don't blame them for that.
Had a treatment review at hospital yesterday.
TomMcGiverin comments on May 22, 2019:
I'm guessing you're talking about mascular degeneration. My sister in law has that and will be getting those injections too. She really hit the genetics curse jackpot as she will also eventually develop dementia like my late wife. Her lot reminds me that things could always be worse for me, I guess. I admire your attitude about coping with this.
Last time I dated a vegan I lasted about 10 days.
TomMcGiverin comments on May 22, 2019:
Since nowadays many of those who are lefty and non-believers are at least vegetarian if not vegan, with my luck the only hipster single women in my age group that I meet online or offline will be vegan and will also reject me if I refuse to join them in that, which is something I am not willing to do. I am becoming a minority within a minority and it sucks to know that. My only saving grace might be my age, in that most of the vegan women are more commonly in the younger age groups than mine. My observation is that the Unitarians in my area, esp. in Des Moines, are so zealous about being PC that even the women my age at that church are probably all at least vegetarian, so they can fit in and feel comfortable there.
In this panels discussion, Jeff Daniels says it is about race for the Republican Party.
TomMcGiverin comments on May 21, 2019:
No shit. Race has always been used to divide the lower classes, along with abortion, religion, gays, guns, etc. because these all work very well. Both parties use them to protect their wealthy masters among the rich and the corporate world. Otherwise, both parties would have pressure on them to either start fighting for the lower classes against the masters of the major parties or else face defeat by third parties or revolution.
Lemons ...
TomMcGiverin comments on May 21, 2019:
Poor kitty. I'd be bummed out too.
Democratic Elite Could Care Less About the Life of the Party
TomMcGiverin comments on May 21, 2019:
This is what I have been saying ever since the DLC moved the Dems permanently to the right, that the Dem leaders really don't care about winning prez elections or getting control of congress, because they and their kids will still do great financially and careerwise while enjoying a very high standard of living and be wealthy. Too bad for the peons who make up their base and are big enough chumps to think the Dem leaders actually care about the middle class and working class. I wised up and quit being a sap who bought their act as soon as I saw Bill Clinton in action as prez and the way he sold out the base as well as the poor. That is also why I have hated both of the Clintons actually more than the Repubs ever since, since they are actually bigger liars and traitors to their base than the Repubs, at least in my book. The Repubs are actually more honest about how they are going to rape the middle and working class, as well as the poor. The Dems lie as well, but sometimes use some lubricant when they go ahead and screw those classes. If, as the article says, the Dem leaders and establishment back an independent centrist candidate (probably Bloomberg or someone like him) against their own party's nominee, should it be, say, Bernie, then the voters will finally see the plain truth of how corrupt and phony the Dems are at the federal level and their party will be ruined for good. Which might be a good thing if it resulted in an actual progressive party finally replacing it as a major party. My guess is, tho, that instead of backing an independent candidate, the Dem leaders and establishment would just quietly sandbag their own nominee and support the Repub candidate behind the scenes. It would be much like a replay of 1972 when the Dems nominated McGovern and then sandbagged him, helping Nixon win.
Cats can be smart (asses).
TomMcGiverin comments on May 21, 2019:
And they say that only dogs are smart enough to learn to do tricks. I always knew cats were as smart as dogs, the main diff being that dogs were eager to please human owners and most cats didn't give a damn as long as their needs were being met.
[anticap.files.wordpress.com] And the Dems will have to fix it? Really? That is what they do?
TomMcGiverin comments on May 20, 2019:
Just further proof that the Dems and Repubs are really the same party when it comes to the rich, corporations, and economic policy. Neither one really gives a damn about the common people. They just play kabuki theater over the issues that really affect the common people and pretend to be different on those issues, like war, the environment, taxes, healthcare, the economy, etc. That's why I won't vote for lesser evil, corrupt Dem candidates, because voting for lesser evil results in continued evil when it's done by almost all voters. We have the power to end this, but not by supporting the duopoly in DC.
What do you save for sentimental reasons?
TomMcGiverin comments on May 20, 2019:
A few of my keys to old cars and homes. My books. That's about it. As far as neat and organized, I wish. Still have a lot of clutter, some of it stuff I kept from my late wife's things that I am not ready to toss yet. Unfortunately, there is no one to give those things to.
Are we (progressives) giving Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez too much praise?
TomMcGiverin comments on May 20, 2019:
If she were old enough to be prez, I would want her running for prez. I hope that by the time she is old enough that she will run and still be highly regarded as well as still uncorrupted.
This is me 100%.
TomMcGiverin comments on May 20, 2019:
True, and I support and respect women being that independent. But, having said that, I can tell you that here in the Midwest on dating sites like Match, most women still are seeking a man who will be both loyal to them and take care of them financially by usually paying for the expenses of the dates, esp. early on in the process. And because most men in my area will gladly do that, we have no choice but to pay if we want to compete for those women with men who will pay and date those women. Now, of course, we can choose to not play that game and not pay for the meals and costs of dates, but if we do we are left with way fewer women from the paid sites to date. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. And when it's already such an uphill battle for men on paid sites who are not great-looking to get interest from women, it doesn't really leave them with much of a choice now, does it?
Just frustrated
TomMcGiverin comments on May 20, 2019:
Only to those who drink the Kool-Aid, but there are many of them...
Just saw this on a friend’s FB page. What do you think of Martin Sheen’s analysis?
TomMcGiverin comments on May 20, 2019:
I agree, but I don't see it ever happening as both major parties love the big money donations and the presidents they nominate keep appointing people to the Supreme Court that are supportive of big money in politics, so it will never end. Because ending it would require a constitutional amendment, which would never get the needed bipartisan support, or else the Supreme Court overturning Buckley v. Valeo ( a precedent from the early 1970s) as well as the Citizens's United precedent. Never going to happen.
Why do people keep complaining even if things improve?
TomMcGiverin comments on May 20, 2019:
I think a friend of mine said it well. He said that as people's situations improve, so (usually) do their expectations and standards for what they feel satisfied with as far as the conditions of their life. So their level of satisfaction remains about the same.
How do you answer the banal message, "Hey, how are you?"
TomMcGiverin comments on May 20, 2019:
I hate small talk and generally refuse to engage in it. Since it sounds like you are talking about online dating and the messaging you get from men on that, I will say that when I send a first message to someone after viewing their profile, it is usually pretty brief, but intelligent and shows that I have read their profile by mentioning at least a couple things that I saw in the profile. I don't spend more than a few minutes anymore on these first messages because it isn't worth the effort, as 90% of them never get replied to and only about half of them even get read anymore. Only about half of them ever result in my profile being viewed. And you think you have problems with how people from dating sites treat you??
Hello fellow hippies, I just got home from the most amazing weekend with a true hippie.
TomMcGiverin comments on May 19, 2019:
I almost never use or have my tracphone turned on, since almost no one has that number or calls me on it. I do watch TV a fair amount (due to my limited social life), so I am unplugged most of the time and retired. I could use more connection to the world, I suppose. But I don't understand why most people seem so dependent on having a cell phone on all the time and being connected to social media every waking moment. That would be unbearable for me. I like a fair amount of quiet and time I like to be able to think deeply.
Do you find persistence attractive?
TomMcGiverin comments on May 19, 2019:
This ? really only applies to the women since, by default, all the pursuing on the paid dating sites is done by the men. It doesn't have to be that way, but that's how it works these days. So, honestly, I can't answer the ? because I have never had any women pursue me since I was in college.
I've got to remember this.
TomMcGiverin comments on May 18, 2019:
Yeah, I'll try to remember that with all of my luck on Match of never meeting any new women since Feb. along with not even one message returned since then either and now getting only about two profile views a week. Yeah, I'm swimming in luck, I need to buy a fucking lottery ticket......

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