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I've been a vegetarian for over 8 years. I'm not an overly healthy vegetarian but vegetarian none the less. I eat eggs and drink milk ect, I'm not a vegan. I've gotten to see a lot of different reactions over the years, some people look at me like I'm a mythical creature that couldn't possibly exist, others don't care but what I have noticed is men tend to care more. Why is this? Men tend to be the ones with longer reactions, meaning they ask over and over why. I don't have a good reason, no great story, just a choice I made and stick with. Women tend to take it for what it is and move on, more of a it doesn't affect me so why care attitude and thats how I am. I don't care what others eat or don't eat. Even when I date someone I could care less if they are a meat eater or not but the guys I've dated almost always care that I'm a vegetarian and eventually make a thing of it. Why?

Gypsy31771 6 July 5
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They don't want YOU to make them stop eating meat.

They see you as the cook of the household, and think they'll never eat steak again.

Sounds like dude need to learn how to cook...

I work at a fast food chicken place if I was bothered by cooking meat I wouldn't have a job. I've also been in relationships where I cooked for my partner at the time I would usually make the same dish for us both just his with whatever meat and mine without

@Gypsy31771 They don't know that. Most women force their partners to eat as they do.

@Minta79 I agree with you

@birdingnut how are you going to force a grown human to eat anything? And as a grown human, how are you going to let your partner force you to eat a specific diet? Sorry, that's just weak sauce. They can be grown. Learn to cook. Contribute equally, or step off.

@Minta79 LOL! Most cis hetero women just withdraw attention, affection and/or sex unless the man conforms to her will. If he's resistant, she just moves on to someone more cooperative.

@birdingnut Then she's weak sauce, too! Lol Ain't nobody got time for that.

@Minta79 No, she's the one whose man will stay with her and take care of her. I have too many male characteristics to do that, and, like a male, I put up with anything, In no time my male romantic interests are taking me for granted, walking all over me, and eventually cheat on me because there are no consequences.

Most women you see crying about men 'doing them them wrong" are these type masculine instinct women who make excuses for men's bad behavior. Most cis hetero women don't cry over men or make excuses..if the guy doesn't put her first, she dumps his stuff on the lawn, changes the locks, and moves on.

@birdingnut There is a big difference between allowing yourself to be mistreated and "forcing" your dietary preferences on another adult. Frankly, I wouldn't want a partner who allowed me to control their diet (see above re: weak sauce). And, I see lots of cis hetero women crying over their guy doing them wrong, while they sit back and allow it. On the other hand, I'm not putting up with that shit, or trying to be anybody's mama (I mean except my kid's, I am trying to be his mama...). You can be an equal partner or you can move along little doggy.

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I could be very wrong but it's my experience that vegies purchase and cater only for themselves despite who else may be there and expect others to cater for them when they're guests.
That said vegie food is great but its missing the meat. Bacon would make every vegie meal edible and I wouldn't feel the meal was incomplete.

I do only buy and cater to myself, bc I'm single and live alone... Do you keep your fridge stocked for random other ppl who may or may not come into your life? That seems waistful. However when I'm living with someone I do buy and cook meat for my partner, or at least I have in the past.

@Gypsy31771 I keep the cupboards stocked so anyone I know could be fed or snack at mine. Fridge stuff not so much. Although I buy considering others its only stuff I can make use of if they don't turn up.
You are clearly better than my experience with vegetarians. I realise that my initial comment does sound as though all of you are the same. I know thats wrong. I apologize for that.

@Gypsy31771, @Gwendolyn2018 if its just cows and pigs you don't eat then you are only a little fussy. Thats easy to deal with. So many chicken and fish options for a start. My wife can't eat lamb (or crab but that's not so much of an issue).

Please tell me what you regularly buy and keep at home that you don't consume yourself but have only for when others visit?

@Gwendolyn2018 Question was for stealthbeard

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I get the same reaction. I've met very few male vegetarians, and most are gay but I do know some who have fabulous vegetarian restaurants.
My theory is that traditionally, men hunted and women gathered vegetable or gardened. So men like to eat meat more than women. Women are more accepting but men provide meat, type of thinking.
I've been vegetarian most or my life. I live it and have no desire to eat meat except seafood on occasion.
You'll meet someone who either doesn't care or perhaps wants to try it. Not all men are asshole. Lol.

Hey! You seem to imply most men are assholes!?

@Gatovicolo most of us are. It’s a problem society has placed upon us and a lot can’t seem to escape the problem of socially imposed hyper masculinity (aka assholeness).

I don’t think it’s evolutionary ingrained in us as much as it is enforced by society. If you go to Little India in Houston, TX you will see most people (men and women) are vegetarians. Here in the bulk of the states eating meat is tied to masculine behavior, so not eating meat can be perceived to be a threat to one’s own masculinity.

@Prescott
Honestly, I think you’re wrong. Being masculine doesn’t imply assholeness. And women can be assholes too. It’s not an exclusively male phenomenon.

@Prescott perhaps it has to do with our culture being principally oriented to eating meat.

@Gatovicolo I totally represent that statement. (Women being capable of being assholes, that is...)

@Prescott yep. Gotta love the Indians. There culture is so totally different from ours. Their diets depend largely on their caste historically. I love Indian food.

@Gatovicolo nowhere did I say women can’t.

@Prescott
You’re identification of assholeness with masculinity did.

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Vegetarian diet makes sense. Vegan diet is over the top and doesn't make much sense. We are omnivores and need animal protein and that all important B-12. How we get it means nothing to me until one goes through all sorts of machinations to supplement what is needed, then it makes no sense. So, I as a man who loves a good steak occasionally, would not question your diet. Why other men might, I have no idea.

@Belrieve -- I'm aware of that. You can get it in other ways as well. It all falls under having to engage in machinations to get where one needs to be with reasonable health. One does not get adequate B-12 from soy in its natural state, either. It has to be prepared, concentrated, and/or fortified. My opinion is that people eat far too much meat in the US. Just 2.5 ozs. of beef meets the normal daily need. Older folks, such as moi, need a higher intake simply because we don't process B12 as efficiently as we once did. I have no argument with the vegans. It's just that it doesn't make much sense as opposed to the vegetarian who get theirs without going through hoops -- and yes, I know all the arguments, so don't bother.

I think veganism makes perfect sense. It's just not that easy to do and get right.

@Gareth -- You don't need to convince me. Convince yourself and be happy. I shall enjoy my occasional filet mignon and I will be happy.

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A factor is possibly wondering where to go for dinner or lunch. All my favorites don't really offer non-meat based meals. I lean towards taco stands and food trucks. Or they just never dated a veggie. My sister is, and going out to eat with her posed some challenges.

I don't usually have that problem unless it's a steakhouse. I've always been able to find vegetarian options wherever I went. Even if it's not on the menu most places are very willing to accommodate. Most Mexican places have a full vegetarian section on their menu. I can't speak to food trucks but if they're preparing the food fresh and not just reheating I don't see how it would be much of a problem

First world problems!

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It's expensive. Then you go to a fancy restaurant and you get a salad. Just like the one at McDonalds but it costs 16 bucks.

I rarely eat salads but I promise the salad at McDonald's is not the same as you'd get in an upscale restaurant. I spend less on food then most ppl in my experience.

When I cut meat & dairy out of my diet, I was able to cut my food budget in half

@davyjones Yes, I know. My wife did the same thing but she doesn't like fresh fruit and only tolerates vegetables. She eats a lot of salad. That way isn't healthy. I eat tons of veggies plus fish. The fish is expensive. It's still frustrating that she always orders salads at restaurants, I mean why bother.

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Gurl. I was vegetarian for several years (chose to start eating meat again in the last couple of months to combat some persistent anemia, that was not caused by diet, but also wasn't improving) and men (most of whom I wasn't dating because I was married until about a year ago) were always in awe and need of an explanation. Like "homie, I choose not to consume meat, end of story."

I feel like we could be friends

@Gypsy31771 then let's be friends 🙂

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That's interesting. I looked at your profile. Is this a big deal in your age group? At my really advanced years, and IF I was looking for a potential permanent partner... I'd be concerned about someone's health from that diet. A simple solution is to ask the fellows why they keep asking YOU about it.
PS: I'm not looking for a date. If I was it wouldn't be with someone my daughter's age.
😉

And you're happily married and fiercely monogamous.

@Minta79
Absolutely. My wife and I are "together". And we both like that.

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Maybe they see you being a vegetarian as a threat to their "perfect life" in the future. No home cooked steak dinners, no grilling burgers with friends on game day, having to eat stuff like "rabbit food" (aka salads and vegetables), tofu, quinoa, tempeh, or other foods they can't pronounce. I really have no idea. People can be overly cautious to things that seem "strange" and "not normal" to them, which can lead to rudeness and aggression.

As a vegetarian myself, I've had people (mostly women because I work with 98% women and date women) tell me I'm missing out by not eating meat. They'll try to tease me by saying their food (whatever meat dish they are having) is sooooo goooood and will offer me a piece as if I'm punishing myself by not eating meat and if I tried it, I would go back to eating meat.

Sorry you are going through this. I guess it's to be expected living in the South. As for myself, I'm part of the unholy Southern trifecta: atheist, liberal, vegetarian.

I can't tell you how often I hear that exact comment about them cooking something and how I'm missing out. I always tell them it would make me incredibly physically ill at this point to eat anything involving meat and they generally leave me alone about it.

I suppose I'm in that trifecta as well. I don't call myself a liberal but everyone loves to call me one. I tend to just say I'm logical, not liberal.

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A factor is possibly wondering where to go for dinner or lunch. All my favorites don't really offer non-meat based meals

Are you sure? Most ppl just assume that but haven't actually looked. I rarely run into restaurants that don't have something I can eat. I prefer not to go to steakhouses bc I'm not one to eat a ton of salads but they would at least have that

@Gypsy31771 And if there was nothing on the printed menu, when i asked the response was often that they could make a vegetarian platter for me. Like when i used to do a lot of flying, the pre-ordered vegetarian meals were usually better than what everyone else received, as i often heard. LLOL

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I became a vegetarian in 1971 and what you describe is how people often react; men and women. In some restaurants i'm even shown the seafood portion of the menu. That's when i ask them if they grow their seafood in their garden. hahaha

But generally people can't seem to understand why i made or make the choice, and the fact that i've been healthy and continue to be super-active confuses some even more. LLOL

How do i handle their curiosity, if that's what it is? I used respond with smart ass responses but got bored with doing that long ago. So when someone persisted on the subject, i just asked why my vegetarianism seemed so important to them? That usually changed the subject, or just ended the conversation. Either outcome works for me.

I know, it's hard to not respond to what we see as stupid comments.

@JackPedigo Sure is.

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Just wondering - how many men question you and does their livelihood depend on the slaughter of livestock? I would think that if you just eat what you eat, and don't order meat, that they should be okay with it... my guess is either they're feeling guilty for their choices, or maybe think you need taking care of.

The biggest example: Over the last 3 years I dated the same guy off and on Everytime we got back together he'd look in my fridge and say "your really still a vegetarian? Will you ever change?" He also hated that I'm an athiest . We never argued on either topic but it always became clear he expected me to Change to try to stay with him and I wouldn't. I just never understood why it mattered. We didn't argue, we didn't have a hard time finding places to eat that both of us could get food we enjoyed, and religion was never brought up. It's over now and I'm completely at peace with that but I guess I just still question why things like that matter when they were of no real consequence in the actual relationship

@Gypsy31771 They may have been "of no real consequence" to you, but maybe they were more important to him than he let you know. Or maybe he was hoping it was 'just a phase' with you and something you would get over so he could show you later that you were wrong and that you had come around to his way of thinking, which, of course, had to be the right way, and then you could both be happy!

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I don't know I just don't get the whole vegetarian but I eat eggs and milk. Some even eat fish. What's the point? Ya know, cows and chickens wouldn't even exist if we didn't eat them. There would be no point in raising them if it weren't for food, leather etc.

Eating meat, eggs, etc keeps them from going extinct. So to say "I don't eat meat" but I do eat eggs and milk is ridiculous. Even vegans are ridiculous, if we all followed the vegan life style all chickens, cows, etc would die out and they would no er exist! Do vegans really hate all animals and wish they would disappear?

Eat a burger and stop pretending that you are better than everyone else.

"I'm not pretending I'm better than anyone else", really because I have never posted anywhere how much I like to eat meat. But people who don't love to tell everyone how much they don't.

Really, dude? You're kind of proving her point right now...

Oh boy! You're special.

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I don't know, but there is sampling bias here, or so it appears. Unless you date men and women (put them in the same situation, a controlled experiment!) and then compare their reactions, your premise that men care more about what you eat is not correct. Obviously your date would be more than interested in why you made such a choice than some friend.

I date men and women. Only the men get hung up on it, in my experience. The women I've dated have been omnivores, and have only mentioned vegetarian eating in context of "does that place have stuff you'll eat?" Or "I'm making this meat dish for the picnic, do you want to bring another main, so you have something, or are you eating desert for lunch?" (I was eating desert for lunch. Lol) Whereas guys are like "how do you not eat meat? Don't you miss it? But, meat is so good? Wanna try my meat?"

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I am still trying to figure out what a vegetarian cannibal eats.

If you figure that out, I'm all ears. On a side note, two cannibals were eating a clown one day. One stopped & asked the other, "Does this taste funny to you?"

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Because most guys have a deep love affair with meat and if you don't eat meat they feel like it's going to inhibit their ability to eat meat

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me being a full-blown carnivore the thought of never eating meat again is just absolutely horrifying

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Damn I could use a rack of baby back ribs right about now

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Good question...sorry i have no idea.....

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You frighten me and I feel threatened. Heheheh.

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Interesting! I too eat a vegetarian diet and am surprised at how difficult it is for others to deal with. Like you I don't care what others do, I do this for me and my reasons. I ate meat most of my life so get what it is like.

Guess it means I cannot help you.

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I have no idea. Frankly, it’s your choice. I would like you despite your choice of food. I don’t care for vegetables, but I certainly don’t care if my date chooses to eat them.

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I'm a guy and have always viewed being vegetarian or vegan as a personal choice. As long as you are happy and getting enough nutrients (protein, vitamins, etc), that's all that really matters. To be honest, I've always found it baffling as to why people have trouble accepting those who are different from themselves.

Don’t ever try to change aspects of whom you are just to fit in to a group. Instead, let your true colors show. The people who will love the real you are the people with whom you should be friends with. Life’s too short to try to make everyone like you. Once an individual stops seeking validation from others, true growth begins to shine through. We are all different people who have different tastes, different ideals, different perspectives and different opinions. Just accept that some people are bound to dislike you, and it’s nobody’s fault.

A true relationship (friendship or romantic interest) will keep it real and won't lie, now that's real talk!! I truly believe talking and sharing all important decisions together can keep a healthy relationship. Don't start in the habit of lying for your friends or romantic interest because it can and will make it so easy to start lying to them. Speak what's on your mind and what's in your heart in the beginning of your relationship and continue this habit in the future. Never ever bring someone else's problem into your life and household. Sometimes it's okay to say nothing when the other partner is wrong especially when they are upset. Not everything has to be said all the time. Sometimes we must realize that some things happen out of our control. Remember, misery loves company so keep some things to yourself. We all will have trials and tribulations, so keep an open mind and make good judgement calls and your relationship with your friend or romantic interest will have less bumps.

At the end of the day, what matters is that we VALUE and LOVE the people that are in our lives. We need to learn that happiness is more than just a feeling. It is also a choice and the result of a series of choices. We have to choose to appreciate and love those around us.

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I wouldn’t care what the person ate.

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Too many people, I guess especially men, take another's food choices as an affront to their own. Often, even mentioning I am vegetarian/vegan brings up all kinds of comments and often defenses of their own choices. Unfortunately, there is no excuse for meat as a food choice! It is simply a matter of one's own sensual desire.

It's funny but next to religion the next controversial topic is one's food choices. With a little bit of critical thinking and looking at evidence both choices are clear.

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