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I had been talking to a guy for a month. Tried to meet up several times but he either had something come up or got sick. I was definitely getting the "not interested" vibe. But when I asked him he was always so like " no I am interested..lets just take it slow" So I point blank asked him if he wanted me or not. He gets all defensive and says for me to stop acting like we were dating!! Wtf?? I don't have time for games and I am too old for that shit anyway. Why can't men just be open and honest about their intentions??

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ErinS704 5 July 12
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There are a dozen episodes of Catfish that start just like this. Move on

GwenC Level 7 July 12, 2018
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Some are, you found the wrong guy. Cut your losses, forget him and move on. Don't make a priority someone who makes you optional.

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It might have something to do with “the demise of guys”:

Sad and work to be done.

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Guys can be. You're just talking to the wrong dude.

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Try not push all guys into the same hole as this one, who doesn't sound like he's worth your effort.

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I can say that about some women as well- seems more of a human trait of the non-committal. He doesn’t seem like he is ready to commit to you and you want reassurance that you’re not wasting your time with him. As you two haven’t intersected here you need to continue going in opposite directions.

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To be honest, This guy seems liking like he's hiding something. To me I would drop him like a hot potato. there are manother fish in the sea. believe me, he's not worth the hastle.

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Pay attention to the red flags that are flying in your face.
There is definitely something "not right" here.
Cut him loose.

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Some people are just ass-hats. But there are genuine people out there.

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Sounds like "he's just not that into you"... Move on and don't waste any more time and energy on someone who's not willing to fully invest their time and energy in you.

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Well, to be honest . It would get in the way of them getting what they think they want. Sometimes they won't be honest because they are waiting it out between a few options and don't want to commit to something until they think its the best deal they are going to get. Women do this too but are just more open about it. a man wants all the advantages he can get. including making you think you have always been number one in his sights. This is how i felt in my 20s. im just being brutally honest. its not something i agree with but.... men tend to think they are at a supreme disadvantage n that they are not actually the ideals women really want. If we were totally open and honest about everything we want , did, or thought. we assume women would usually never speak to us again out of shear offense. so being always in disguise we have to level the playing field by trying to get the very best woman we can get to believe us for just long enough they have invested and are now too close to back out now that they see some of our more horrible flaws. Obviously i don't speak for every man. hell, i may not speak for any of them but me. This was my usual way of thinking much of my life. i believe many men feel the same way and we would never actually admit or agree that a word of this was accurate. that would ruin our chances with who we want to get. live the lie . Deny deny deny. Like Bill Clinton.... I did not have sexual relations with that woman. say it over and over again and we start to believe it. say it a few hundred more times and then even you start to believe it.
No honey i don't find your friend attractive. No i would not like to sleep with her instead. No i would HATE to have her in our sacred bed.
I believe the only way to make a man more likely to tell the truth is to give him the impression you really like the thing he is trying to hide from you. Or sometimes just giving him the impression of a no pressure situation. take it or leave it.. .. so many men are just grown up boys. if you want to get to the truth you have to convince them there is no punishment or negative repercussion .. That or pretend to be overwhelmed by his charm and flatter him.. his arrogance will kick in and he will gladly tell you what he really wants if he thinks you are so anxious to try to give it to him.
I don't know if any of that really helps . But its the truth from a man who is embarrassed to admit this is the actual state of things ..

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We can and do, that guy is a little boy, has other things going and wants to keep you on a string as a back up, it's best to move on and ignore him cause he ain't shit.

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Yeah he's playing around. When your older ain't nobody got time for that. Lol.

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Most cis hetero men are basically walking sex organs with large bellies. They typically go for the youngest, hottest woman they can find. If you have any romantic notions about men, forget it.

The book, The Rules for Online Dating advises women to delete any men who don't ask to meet them in person within four messages.

Women are advised to wait at least one day before replying to messages.

If a man asks to meet you, only meet them in your own city, at a public place. Take your own car. Let friends know where you are. Never tell the strange men where you live or give them enough information for them to figure it out for themselves.

If the man tries to make the woman pay for the date, stand up and leave immediately.

DO "google" the men before meeting them. Find out if what they told you is true. Are they married, employed, have kids, are in another relationship, are listed as sexual predators, etc.

End the date first. Don't sleep with anyone until you're in a exclusive relationship. Don't bare your soul to them. Don't complain to them about your past relationships, implying that you think THEY will solve all your romantic expectations. Don't chase, call, or throw yourself at them. Don't act needy and clingy.

Be mysterious and somewhat aloof until you get to know them much better, or until they've asked for an exclusive relationship. Then, be careful what you tell them.

Holy crap that's a TON of rules. I understand that women in this day and age need to be careful. I only take "issue" with one thing: I am always hesitant to know when to ask a woman I'm talking to online to meet. It seems like something they should initiate interest in. So I'll wait about a week, sometimes 10 days. And by then I'll mention wanting to meet her, and I'll apologize if it's too soon.
Also... sometimes getting chased feels good to us as well. My last serious girlfriend chased me. We were together 2 1/2 years and it was probably my best ever relationship. Just saying... not everything can be so easily slotted into categories.

@KCjoe108 Um, you do realize that all people are on a gender trait spectrum. You obviously have lower amounts of testosterone at work. I was talking about a typical cis hetero male strong in male traits.

There are always less aggressive men types for the more aggressive females. In my case, I don't react well to them. I need a male more aggressive than I am, and those are rare.

@birdingnut
No reason to seem so defensive! I can assure you my testosterone levels are fine, lol. But I was also raised to have manners.
Rules are meant to be broken after all!

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When I was your age, same thing! Maybe guys are serious about being in a relationship, but they must have a lot of fear going on or else they would be in one! It was very disappointing when men never came through when I was that age. I may have felt like I was running out of time (now I see that as young), maybe that came through to them! I finally gave up, it was emotionally draining for me. Keep looking you have plenty of time and be happy in the meantime! Good luck...

@jorj good point!

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I know. Been there. I don't like games either. Mine didn't have the balls to break up in person, no call, no text. Screw that noise. They keep telling me there are good ones out there. We'll find 'em. 'Til then, let's go have a beer. First round's on me!

Sounds good lol. I’m in the same boat as you. I’m wondering where the good women are hiding. I’m up for a nice quiet bar lol

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Not all guys are like that. I for one am not. When I have a lady in my life nobody will be able to get me to cheat. I call everyday when I’m unable to go visit. I tag her in romantic memes on Facebook and such. I do my best to let her know she’s always in my thoughts

PaulD Level 5 July 12, 2018
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He actually weighs 400 lbs, is unemployed, and lives in his mum’s basement. The photos he posted are his brother-in-law, Pete. You dodged a bullet.

LOL!

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If things are not going to your satisfaction, move on. Problem solved.

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Yep a lot of guys are dicks

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If a man was honest - "I want casual sex with no commitment" - most women would turn him down.

3

Sound married.

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You got a married man looking for a transition to single life.

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He's either playing games to boost his ego or afraid of involvement. Move on quickly!

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He's married.

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