Wow, you really hate the Democrats ?

@TheMiddleWay Obviously you can't tell there there's a qualitative difference between the Democratic and Trump shutdowns. The Dem shutdowns were about funding for Medicare, education, the environment, and public health (you guess which side), while the Trump shutdown is strictly about feeding his ego for his dumbass wall!

Both sides care only about themselves.

It really takes an emotionally ignorant moron to think that there is any equivalence whatsoever between the regressive conservatives and libertarians, who seek to do nothing but enrich an elite at the expense of everyone else, while progressives seek to raise everyone's standard of living and also raise the standard of ethics and humanitarian morality. Someone blind to ethics and humanitarian morality is the kind of person Hillary rightly called "deplorable". Of course they don't want to admit it, LOL.

@HomeAloneSunday no Republican that I am aware of excuses treason from their own party.

Of course that's the point.

and, in my opinion, that will NEVER happen as long as religious evangelicals control the GOP and are in power.

They are so diametrically opposed on almost every issue that that seems highly unlikely.

@BD66 Largely true. This is due rejecting independent thought and instead embracing "group identity" philosophy,

@TheMiddleWay yes of course they did; congress had nothing to do with it, right? learn your history. and that picture of a dem looks just like a trumpkin, NOT a dem.

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the center is farther left than we think. that happens to be a good thing )

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@genessa not left enough!

@AlexRam well, it's not as far left as i am but it's still not where most people think the center is.

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@OwlInASack it's all perspective isn't it?

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@OwlInASack in some quarters, maybe even most quarters... but there are still perfectly nice, albeit naive, people who don't like trump but still get their news from unconfirmed sources and believe stuff they oughtn't. those people are more likely to believe this "equally to blame" line.

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@OwlInASack me? no i have a weak stomach.

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I've noticed a trend in the bothsiderism shutdowns you reference. The Democratic side was trying to help regular people with things like the environment and healthcare. The Republican side was trying to help rich folks avoid taxes. So yes, dems and reps aren't the same based on the shutdown[s].

In the Obama shutdown in 2013, Republicans, who made it clear they wanted to derail the Affordable Care Act by stripping funds from it, attempted to attach to a funding bill provisions to defund or delay aspects of the act. Democrats refused to support any such move. The shutdown lasted 16 days.

There were two shutdowns during the Clinton presidency. The one you referred to was the second.
From Wikipedia: 'The United States federal government shutdowns of 1995 and 1995–96 were the result of conflicts between Democratic President Bill Clinton and the Republican Congress over funding for Medicare, education, the environment, and public health in the 1996 federal budget'.
The lead personality for the Republicans was Newt Gingrich.

So which party is to blame and why?

@RobertMartin Why don't you answer his question

@DoctoralZombie apparently trump is still president for some reason. I didn't vote for him, .

@RobertMartin Why would a party be to blame when an ignorant man shuts down the government? Trump said he would be proud to shut it down if he did not get his money, so he shut it down. That's pretty plain and it is not how to negotiate. Now he has caved and government will re-open. Who knows the mind of Donald Trump? Trump himself cannot answer that because he lies too much.

@OwlInASack I hear ya bro.