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Is there a correlation between being a true atheist and abolishing the monogamous lifestyle? Do you think that an atheist is more or less likely to prefer polygamy?

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zesty 7 Apr 14

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People like to fuck. They will find ways to do it, no matter what label is applied. People liked to fuck long before there was any religion.

Yes, but we also dislike venereal infections, dealing with unwanted pregnancies, being betrayed and lied to by the ones we love ,intense drama which, in some cases, can lead to physical harm or murder.

@Kojaksmom Minor inconveniences, People still like to fuck. If they did not like to fuck, the issues you mentioned would for the most part not exist. Do not ask me why people like to fuck, I do not know the original reason (other than it feels pretty darn good), but its appeal ranks up there with food, air and water.

@creative51 that's true, nothing indulges itself in Mindless breeding more than a human animal

@Kojaksmom 7 billion and growing every day. Despoiling the very land, air and water which we need in order to live. Humans absolutely do mindless breeding.

What about people who are asexual? Or those with anhedonia? Or eunuchs? None of these types of people desire sexual relations. Asexual individuals make up about 1% of the population, however there is reason to believe that that number may be higher, mostly for lack of a good definition.

Also what do you think the maximum number of people this planet can handle is?

@Happy_Killbot What ever that maximum population is, we now exceed it.

@creative51 What if I told you the theoretical maximum population for an earth sized planet was in the trillions, and the limiting factor isn't space or resources but is actually heat dissipation? Some sources claim that this is possible, although there are a lot of assumptions made, for example all energy consumed originates from outside earth's surface. If you spread out everyone equally you would get about 18 acres of land for every one person, and you only need about 1.76 to live on if you accept a vegan diet.

I think overpopulation is sort of an exaggeration. If you look at the populations in developed countries like South Korea and Japan, the population is decreasing, due to increased food prices, education of women, availability of contraception, and of course social changes. In the USA many people are waiting longer to start families and when they do they are typically smaller.

So far, mankind has evaded destruction by overpopulation because... well, we aren't animals and we can change our world to fit our needs. I don't know the means to avoid calamity indefinitely, but I don't think we are going to sit around waiting to starve. Remember, matter is neither created nor destroyed. entropy is the only thing you have to worry about, and as far as I am concerned its exploitation is basically what it means to have life.

@Happy_Killbot I guess our views just differ on this matter.


The fuck is a 'true atheist'?


Your question smacks of the idiotic belief that atheists have no ethics or morals.


The 2 questions are not really related.
Correlation does not equal causation.

Not always.


That seems like an incredibly odd question?
Like the Religitards that like to imply that one can't have a moral compass without the fear of God!
Utterly Ridiculous!...

So i find the premise of your question to be highly flawed. Unless again your view is that an Atheist must just automatically not be capable of monogamy/commitment without some kind of religion?

@Marcel3405 Exactly. 🙏🙏🙏🤣🤣🤣


Polygamy is different than polyamory.


Ask these women


I don't see how they are related at all.
Considering the number of religious people that cheat on their spouses, I don't think theists are all that committed to monogamy.


I've been a nonbeliever since I was a child but as an adult I am always monogamous. It's a preference on my part -- I put not judgment on those who choose to live otherwise. I simply cannot invest myself in more than one person at a time. And I doubt I'd be willing or able to share.


One thing has nothing to do with the other!! Odd question!

was thinking the same thing.

@Marcel3405 which is more or less the same 🙂


My disbelief in deities has nothing to do with my feelings toward faithful monogamy. Wanting to be someone's one and only isn't a religious or non-religious issue. At least, not for me.


The two could not be less related in my mind. If anything, polygamy is more closely tied to religion (see Mormonism and most of the Old Testament).


"Abolishing" anything sounds iffy. I think people are more likely to live and let live, without religion to teach them to be judgmental.


WTF is a true athiest?

@Shouldbefishing I know that’s the fallacy that doings to my mind when I see that kind of language.

@Shouldbefishing I think we both agree there’s not a good answer to that.


A great many people who claim to be both monogamous and religious have sex with more than one person while supposedly in a monogamous relationship. You can't force a monogamous person into poly, and you can't force a poly person into monogamy. Atheists just tend to be more honest about it, I think.

1of5 Level 8 Apr 14, 2019

or would be under less social constraint should they chose that?

@Allamanda could be. Lots of people are very judgmental about it even without religion, though, just look around here.

@1of5 I've not noticed, but perhaps they are judging the dishonesty in some cases rather than the act - I think the agreement part is still left out a lot.

@Allamanda what dishonesty? Poly couples are very honest about what they're doing. I can understand judging someone who says they're monogamous and isn't, if that's what you mean. Hell, I do that but I judge them as liers to themselves and their partner.

@1of5 yes that's exactly what I meant, not declaring the other relationship or fling

@Allamanda I think there's a lot of misunderstanding that leads to judgment from society as a whole, though. The supposed "ideal" relationship is pounded into us as being exclusive to each other, and people start out from the perspective of monogamy as being inherently "right" because of this.

@1of5 well yes if you mean US, aside from Mormon etc.

@Allamanda Mormon is a one way street that's inherently misogynistic and religion based.


Relationship is a social contract. Participants conduct themselves according to mutually agreed laws and agreements. Breaking such rules and agreements means violating the contract. For example there are already women and men with multiple partners and all of them agree to this arrangement. Church and state brainwashed people into thinking that what they define as marriage, family, and relationship is the only correct one that is why people who do not follow these imposed rules but instead follow their heart are made to suffer. The time has come to correct our brainwashed brains.


I feel like it's 100% based on personal preference and has nothing to do with religion or lack thereof. Some people just want one partner, some people want many.


I voted yes because I personally think being an atheist makes it easy to look at everything with an open mind, without pre-conceived notions.That's me. However I have seen many dating profiles where religion is important to them while they preferred non-monogamy, BDSM and more.


Being atheist isn't something that can be subjected to definition other than that of having rejected gods/theology. There is nothing else to be added or subtracted that could be reasoned to qualify one as a 'true atheist'.

A true 'Atheist' is spoken of as a proper noun, as a label or title most often rather than an adjective merely describes one's state of mind or attitude.

The trouble with the former conception ( more popular) is as soon as you label something as a noun, ambitious, self-important prigs begin to dream up criteria and establish their own petty orthodoxies; umbrella intellectual fifedoms over which they deign to preside, claiming superior judgment over who is or isn't "TRUE".

As to polygamy; it is therefoe impossible to draw any consistent relationship between it and the atheist mind set one way or another. They aren't related any more or less than any other thought on that narrow basis alone.

Polygamy in our time and place in history is flawed like every other social practice/institution within human societies by the simple, pathogenic common denominator of male dominance. Anything dominated by males is poisoned from the start.


I see no correlation between being an atheist and being.... well, anything different than the general population. Being religious does not make one believe in certain morals or ethics, and I doubt that not having a religion telling you how to live will change your basic temperament. I would not want a polygamous relationship, period!


That's just silly I've been an Atheist my whole life and I would only be comfortable in a monogamous relationship I'm not condemning others who want to have polygamous relationships but I am a monogamist because that's how I feel


No. Monogamy is not a specifically Christian/religious issue.


Just because atheists are in principle freethinkers and more free in principle to diverge from societal norms without concepts like "sin" in the way, doesn't mean we suddenly are polyamorous or polygamous (or licentious, or dishonest, or unfaithful, or whatever).

Personally I find serial monogamy difficult and frustrating enough to navigate without complicating matters further than they already are. It is a practical matter, and me not seeing any percentage in polyamory. Has nothing to do with my lack of beliefs in deities.


The west has essentially a serial monogamy structure. Hence, a form of polyamorousness for all.

Jacar Level 8 Apr 14, 2019

As a atheist, we do not care about any "thou shalt not"s BUT I think it is really preference.


I find the idea of polygamy to be pretty scary for me personally. I'm massively mono. But I can see that's part of my history too. Maybe if I were 22 again - and atheist this time - I'd think differently?

Pretty happy though with monogamy for now.

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