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I work in retail...….not a religious entity. One of our managers has begun saying, after our morning meetings, or even in passing after a short chat, "have a blessed day". I find this offensive, and have decided to start saying b "hail satan" in response. We'll see how this goes.

AzVixen52 7 May 5
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I have come to the conclusion that no one really truly believes in God. They think they do but when the chips are down most will revert to an animal state. Kill or be killed, survival of the fittest, etc. I am fortunate that I work for an extremely progressive company where he would be set straight or let go if he kept up this chatter.

It's a "she", and I agree.

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'Blessed be' is how pagans greet each other. Generally meaning, 'enjoy the fruits of your labour and the joy the world has available'.
[learnreligions.com]

I often say blessed be.

Too much " bkessed" dor my liking.😜

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I think some people use 'blessed day' the way other people use 'Oh God', it doesn't really mean anything other than have a good day.
Personally I find being honest about my atheist views but not pushing them has been good.
I hear 'Everything Happens for a Reason' A LOT! And crazy part is it's from my pot smoking, heavy drinker, nudist Christian friends... I usually reply gently, that I don't like that phrase that I prefer to think, "With the right attitude most situations can be an opportunity to learn and grow into something better."
Most of the time the response is WOW, I like that a lot better.
If they push I'll say, I don't like the idea of someone or some entity intentionally bringing pain.
This past weekend someone I talked to that way, gently, not from a place of offence, actually came to me and shared that she is having doubts about her faith.
We need people who give the 'hail satan' response, but I think a gentle response goes a long way as well.

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A physician's Assistant (PA) use to say, "Have a Blessed Day" as he was going out the door after an exam. He never dwelled at the door long enough for me to tell him his comment was inappropriate and leave religion out of my medical exams. He didn't last very long at the doctor's office. And I never said anything to my MD. Otherwise, he was a great PA.
I'm glad I'm retired and don't have to deal with religious bosses.

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Yeah....good luck with that......or, you could spit in their face.after thinking it over...that might be too much like an assault

I'm lucky...……...I can walk under ladders.

@AzVixen52 lol...is that a mystical thing? Thats darling

@HankSherman It's from a Joan Armatrading song.

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For me I could care less it's a group of words, if someone wishes me a good day I wish them the same, with the qualifier, unless they made other plans. If I wish somebody a good day I wish them a good day and follow up with, unless you made other plans. that way it's up to them.

I like it...am going to spread it..

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This should end well. Please keep us updated.

SCal Level 7 May 7, 2019

I'll give you an update: today after a meeting (LP meeting) I spoke to one of the "big dogs" about this situation. I told I was going to say "hail Satan", and she laughed. She also thanked me for the info, and said she'd look into it. I quoted a fellow, intelligent Agnostic member's EEOC information, and she agreed with me. See? Win, win! 😉

@AzVixen52

That leaves yet another chapter. Now we need to know about the drama after she is confronted by mgmt. haha

@AzVixen52 good choice. Your initial plan didn't sound very smart.

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I understand your frustration. It may be considered to be nice, but on some level, it's still an assertion that their beliefs are relevant in the work place. I saw a truck today advertising pest control, with Jesus fish symbols on it. I guess that was a signal to Christians that they should assume the business was more honest and scrupulous than none Christian bug killers?

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Annoying, and yet another of many ways to assume a belief in the supernatural is the norm.

If I sneeze, and someone says "Bless You!", I say "No!, Thankyou!"

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I say "I guess that's better than having a cursed one."

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I work as a graphic artist, and get that sort of thing all the time from religious clients. Annoying though it is, I do not take offense, as they are just trying to be nice in the only way they know how. If, however, your manager knows you are a non-believer, and is saying it just to irritate you, then perhaps you have a right to go on the offensive. I do not, though, see where referencing an Abrahamic archangel to demonstrate that you don't believe in Abrahamic religions is in any way beneficial. Of course you could try something totally outrageous, like explaining to the person that you are a non-believer and it would make you happier if they just said "Have a nice day", which, while not nearly as dramatic, might make things run smoother at the store. As always, the decision is entirely yours. Have a mediocre day.

And my decision stands.

You can always say "You have a rational day!"

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One might as well be offended with the ubiquitous “Bless you” after you sneeze. Personally, I prefer “gezundeit,” as I am of German ancestry, and also because as a kid, I thought the word ‘gezundeit’ was more fun to say than the banal ‘bless you.’ I also think it’s better to save your offense for commonly heard comments which are far more offensive, such as, “someday you’ll see the light,” or “I’ll pray for you” in response to someone saying they are atheist.

I don't agree, but thanks.

Yes I DO inform people who just say it reflexively without aggressive intent. I say "No Thanks the first time" after that I tell them "Thanks, but I do not appreciate mythical incantations and they are not even consistent with your religion!, Please do NOT say that when I sneeze unless you intend to harrass me about being atheist which I am" IF they say it after that (with sensible exceptions) I say "FUCK OFF!"

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I agree with Vivian but you could also reply with "so be it." This will go into Wiccan ideas but is also a literal translation of "amen."

Not my style. I'm always direct.

@AzVixen52 EXCELLENT! If I overheard that I would approach you and ask if you have a husband or boyfriend!

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I would act shocked and say, "Cool, I didnt know you are Wiccan". If they're Christian, they'll stop saying it for fear others will think they're Wiccan. Lol

Brilliant! I am now going to do that instead!

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Such a statement does not seem to be an attempt to foist his religion on people but rather to convey good wishes for others to have a good day. Since the intent behind this wish is kind, of course coming from a religious person, I would look to the intent. Having no ax to grind, nothing to prove, I would just accept his good intentions and respond: Have a beautiful day, too and thank you.

Not my style.

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It's funny but pointlessly confrontational. They are obviously trying to be nice. So what if they're including their superstition, why would that be offensive? You sound a little "snowflake".

If someone references a religion or belief in some kind of supernatural power, they are not just trying to be nice, they are imposing their belief on you.

As do you.

@AzVixen52, please explain what belief I am trying to impose on you by saying, "Have a great day!"

@Spidey Oh, NOW you are playing nice after your previous comment? Oy vey.

@AzVixen52, you have my opinion, which has not changed, and I asked you a legit question. Not sure what the "playing nice after..." reference means. If you don't understand my comment, I will do my best to exlain, but if you're not interested in having (an adult) conversation, please feel free to move on.

@Spidey No more than I would be if I referenced something scientific in conversation. I agree that there's a way to be an ass about it, but wishing something you believe to be good on someone isn't that. You're being overly sensitive.

I am NOT a snowflake! I am also (myself) very polite when I first let people know I do not like to have people "bless" me when I sneeze, BUT, after I explain that, it IS rude of them to deliberately continue. Some old people forget, so I try to be nice, but when they continue I will admonish them as politely as I can! I will never be socialist and agree with the Austrian economists! I am a student of Frederick Hyat Murry Rothbard and Milton Friedman - VERY much NOT a snowflake!

@JOHNGALT What the hell does Austrian Economy have to do with it? Now you sound like a snowflake and a conspiracy theorist. Unless English isn't your first language and you don't realize that was irrelevant. You're far too easily offended, that's what I mean by snowflake.

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I would say that's an appropriate response.. if you believe in satan. I prefer less friction in the work place. If they try to make it more personal then bring it ti her superiors attention if you feel you need to respond to her say something innocuous like don't "get run over" ..i prefer humor I guess.

I guess

@F-IM-Forty I could use the time off and unemployment check, but then again, they'd miss my sarcastic ass too much!

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I think that people who offer such a salutation do so with a positive attitude, and do not realize that to a non-religious person is it somewhat offensive. I do not like it when someone says that to me, but I take it in the spirirt in which it is intended. I might smile, or I might simply ignore it. I try to not let it upset me, and I would certainly not want to engage horns with someone who might have the power to make the job either miserable or disappear!

My style is more direct.

@AzVixen52 - Yes, it is more direct, and you will easily convey your contempt or lack of agreement. That is not a bad thing, but my question is if you really want to add to the workplace discomfort? Is there a human resource department, or a person with whom you might discuss the issue? Can you not find a non-confrontational manner in which to assert your displeasure? Yes, we like to defend our position, or fight back on something to which we take exception, but this is your workplace, and surely you realize that your passive-aggressive attitude might cause you problems beyond expressing your dislike of the statement?

@Rustee Considering she adds to my discomfort, I see nothing wrong with that I do.

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One of the meanings is for blessings = good fortune, so why not just take it as another version of: Have a nice day?

Good idea. Say Good fortune back to her.

Not my style

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good idea - piss off the guy that decides how your day will go - and probably what you get paid. Ignore the man or respond as Dave Allen (irish comedian) - may your god go with you - and one day it will

What makes you think it's a man?

@AzVixen52 just that I am an ignorant sexist homophobic chauvenist - I'm not really, making assumptions again - suppose it is unthinkingly playing the odds - sorry for the offense you may have felt

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just blow it off...

Not my style

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Irritating

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That phrase is exceeding condescending

Why condescending?

@Sdusmith, assumption of belief. But, you have a point; arrogant would be more accurate.

@Sdusmith the insinuation that you need them to bless you, or that they can confer “god’s” approval or kindness with a trite phrase

Indeed!

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It irritates me as well... mostly because I don't like being told to do anything...no thanks, I prefer to have a shitty day...ugh

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I’ve noticed religious dog whistles a lot more lately. I guess I’m more sensitive or annoyed by it now. But I just shrug it off. A couple weeks ago, I was asked to pray after a game. LOL So awkward.

Years ago my daughter would play with a church group soccer team they would ask me to pray with them after the game.
I didn't want to be confrontational I just said it wasn't appropriate for me, they never stopped insisting

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